Fender Rumble Club

[Gravedigger Dav]

did i ask for a number when i got my rumble 40? i thought i did, but can't find it here, so here i am, finally asking for a number

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btw, this pic is from the night i got it. the cardboard with the features has long since been removed

Welcome Rumbler #1063! If you asked previously, I missed it. I do have this thread on follow, but it isn't consistent in its notifications. Love them little 40s. Few remember that in the '60s our gigging amps didn't have that much power. But now, we can Rumble ON!

 

[GonePlaid]

The old saying "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. Ive played both. Amps like the Stage and Mustang are toys compared to a Kemper. Just depends how serious you are about your music. Honestly I cant afford a Kemper either but Ive been lucky enough to play one for days at a studio we recorded in not too long ago. They are amazing and worth every penny. So once you've experienced that, you would think of the Stage and Mustang's attempts at reproducing real amps quite differently.

No, I won't. Our band works-not enough but we work. I'd be reluctant to take something that 'fancy' on in/out one nighters.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

They really haven't at all. Want to hear an astounding job of mimicking vacuum tubes? Play a Kemper.

For the price point they certainly have. What amp do you play that give you the right to come to our club and make condescending and demeaning remarks?

 

[mbell75]

For the price point they certainly have. What amp do you play that give you the right to come to our club and make condescending and demeaning remarks?

A Rumble 500

I don't like the Stage amps, my opinion, so what? Don't take it so personal like I insulted a family member. Its the internet, calm down.

 

[SoulReflection]

Some Humble Opinions are far from Humble...they are worded to induce arguments, rather than constructive and educational conversation which is the true value of TalkBass. Just my opinion, humble or not.

 

[dORSY]

The old saying "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. Ive played both. Amps like the Stage and Mustang are toys compared to a Kemper. Just depends how serious you are about your music. Honestly I cant afford a Kemper either but Ive been lucky enough to play one for days at a studio we recorded in not too long ago. They are amazing and worth every penny. So once you've experienced that, you would think of the Stage and Mustang's attempts at reproducing real amps quite differently.

So You used a camper once in a studio, but did You use it on stage? If You did what cabs/amps/etc. did they go through? Also did You use a stage800 on stage? Did You go out through a good FOH with them?
You are making bald statements with very little experience. At least i read that from Your posts.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

A Rumble 500

I don't like the Stage amps, my opinion, so what? Don't take it so personal like I insulted a family member. Its the internet, calm down.

Welcome Rumbler #1064! Now that is funny. I'm not upset, but your post wasn't clear. Now you're one of us. Rumble On, cousin!

 

[Bufalo]

I like that my Rumble 500 sounds like itself, and I like that my SVT sounds like itself. I haven't found need to have one sound like the other. I have an original Mustang 100w combo and I do agree that it's workable at some volumes, but gets quirkly quickly. I have no Studio/Stage Rumble experience to share - so....

 

[Devon Bustard]

Played through my school’s Ampeg combo today, which was a similar price to my Stage 800. For the love of my life I could not get a decent tone (p bass and flatwounds) and I tried every possible combination on it. It sounded like flub. Came home and plugged into my Stage 800 which I modified the vintage rumble patch to sound more like a 90’s Ampeg rig and wow, fender does Ampeg better than Ampeg. It was refreshing to hear some nice tone

 

[mbell75]

So You used a camper once in a studio, but did You use it on stage? If You did what cabs/amps/etc. did they go through? Also did You use a stage800 on stage? Did You go out through a good FOH with them?
You are making bald statements with very little experience. At least i read that from Your posts.

I used a Kemper in studio over 3 days actually. The producer who owned the studio also had several of the actual amps from his profiles there too. So I was able to play the Kemper directly against a '72 Blue Line SVT with 6146Bs, a '66 BF Bassman and a '68 Plexi with EL34s. The Kemper profiles were spot on and extremely accurate thru the same cabs I played the actual amps thru. The few times I have played a Stage 800 was in a demo room at Guitar Center, once just again a few days ago as I said. I was able to get the volume up plenty loud, gig levels. As I have stated, I don't like it at all. Its very sterile sounding, lacks any kind of warmth and presence of a tube amp and doesn't sound anything like the actual amps its trying to emulate IMO. The Blackstar U500 does a much better job of emulating tube amps IMO with its 6L6 and 6550 responses.

All of the Stage's presets have no low end and way too much highs, even when I tried to dial it in better. The presets that try to emulate any kind of OD or distortion sound terrible the higher you turn the volume up to. It just sounds like a huge digital mess. Nothing like a quality drive pedal going thru a nice tube amp. As I said in another post, the main problem is the same problem with the Mustang amps, terrible generic speakers with a flat response. They need to have that flat response because it has to emulate so many different sounds. Ive heard Mustang's with speaker swaps that sounded much better but it still doesn't compare to the actual amps its trying to model. The Kemper sounded fantastic with the bass amp profiles thru the Ampeg 8x10 and the guitar amp profiles thru the Marshall 1960AX with G12-25 Greenbacks. Its a night a day different from a Stage 800 or a Mustang which sounds like a toy in comparison. I have not had the opportunity to use any on stage and going FOH with them wouldn't prove anything anyways. With a good sound guy and a quality PA, you can go to FOH with a DI box like a SansAmp and sound great.

This all just my opinion and there is no point in continuing to talk about it. Some don't like digital modeling amps and some do, nothing wrong with either viewpoint. I only eloborated on why I didn't like the Stage 800 earlier because someone asked me to explain what I meant when I said it sounded digital, so I did.

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Welcome Rumbler #1063! If you asked previously, I missed it. I do have this thread on follow, but it isn't consistent in its notifications. Love them little 40s. Few remember that in the '60s our gigging amps didn't have that much power. But now, we can Rumble ON!

My '63/'64 (can't remember; bought it used with a '63 Fender J in '67) Fender Bassman was 50 watts. But it weighed almost 100 lbs (cab +head)!

I like my 200c just fine, thank you very much!

 

[dORSY]

I used a Kemper in studio over 3 days actually. The producer who owned the studio also had several of the actual amps from his profiles there too. So I was able to play the Kemper directly against a '72 Blue Line SVT with 6146Bs, a '66 BF Bassman and a '68 Plexi with EL34s. The Kemper profiles were spot on and extremely accurate thru the same cabs I played the actual amps thru. The few times I have played a Stage 800 was in a demo room at Guitar Center, once just again a few days ago as I said. I was able to get the volume up plenty loud, gig levels. As I have stated, I don't like it at all. Its very sterile sounding, lacks any kind of warmth and presence of a tube amp and doesn't sound anything like the actual amps its trying to emulate IMO. The Blackstar U500 does a much better job of emulating tube amps IMO with its 6L6 and 6550 responses.

All of the Stage's presets have no low end and way too much highs, even when I tried to dial it in better. The presets that try to emulate any kind of OD or distortion sound terrible the higher you turn the volume up to. It just sounds like a huge digital mess. Nothing like a quality drive pedal going thru a nice tube amp. As I said in another post, the main problem is the same problem with the Mustang amps, terrible generic speakers with a flat response. They need to have that flat response because it has to emulate so many different sounds. Ive heard Mustang's with speaker swaps that sounded much better but it still doesn't compare to the actual amps its trying to model. The Kemper sounded fantastic with the bass amp profiles thru the Ampeg 8x10 and the guitar amp profiles thru the Marshall 1960AX with G12-25 Greenbacks. Its a night a day different from a Stage 800 or a Mustang which sounds like a toy in comparison. I have not had the opportunity to use any on stage and going FOH with them wouldn't prove anything anyways. With a good sound guy and a quality PA, you can go to FOH with a DI box like a SansAmp and sound great.

This all just my opinion and there is no point in continuing to talk about it. Some don't like digital modeling amps and some do, nothing wrong with either viewpoint. I only eloborated on why I didn't like the Stage 800 earlier because someone asked me to explain what I meant when I said it sounded digital, so I did.

Mind that those kemper presets were tweaked to hell (it takes hours or sometimes days to tweak them to perfection by someone who really knows what to do, just like the guy in the studio).
Also the cabs have a LOT to add to the sound. That's why I asked if You had experience with FOH or not.

If You have done the same effort to tweak a studio800, maybe You'd say something else. Just my 2cents.

 

[Devon Bustard]

I understand both sides of this discussion. It sounds like this tumbler wants a nice od and distortion sound (which I admit takes a lot of tweaking on the rumble 800), but the stage 800 is definitely more of a clean amp. I have spent hours tweaking and I have found great clean sounds with punch and some slight natural sounding od. It also depends on the bass as well, a lot of newer jazz basses I find hard to get a good tone out of on my amp but P Basses are nice and simple. That being said, I would love to try out a kemper sometime and if my band ever gets out of this town then I’ll buy an actual SVT

 

[EatS1stBassist]

My '63/'64 (can't remember; bought it used with a '63 Fender J in '67) Fender Bassman was 50 watts. But it weighed almost 100 lbs (cab +head)!

I like my 200c just fine, thank you very much!

Yes! I toured with an SVT Back in the 70’s. Loved it! But I really love my 200c! As well!

 

[Pulverizor]

Hey guys. I am new here. I have been sniffing around for a few months. I have only been playing bass for a year. I lucked out and bought a fender rumble 200 combo for my first amp. I liked it enough while playing it at home. It wasn't cutting it in a loud rock band. I was at about 3 o clock on the master volume and the tone I liked would sort of disappear. I fixed that by adding a peavey headliner 210 to it.(waiting to find a rumble210 cab locally)View attachment 3387810 Now I'm at 12 o clock on the master volume at practice and it sounds great. Now I have to unplug the cabinet at home to get the tone I like. I love how portable this thing is! Thanks for everyone's input on this page.

Nice. A Rumble 210 under the 200c will be cool as heck.
Maybe @Gravedigger Dav will issue you a club number?

 

[mbell75]

Ok, so I have the Rumble 500c and just found a used 1x15 Rumble extension cab for it. The combo was $599 new and the cab was $199 used, so $800 total. The local GC just got in a used Rumble 500 head and it’s $399. I could keep the 1x15 and pick up a new 2x10 cab for $399 or used for $349. So it would be another $100 or so if I went with the head and cabs vs the combo and cab. Any benefits to one setup vs the other?

 

[SoulReflection]

Ok, so I have the Rumble 500c and just found a used 1x15 Rumble extension cab for it. The combo was $599 new and the cab was $199 used, so $800 total. The local GC just got in a used Rumble 500 head and it’s $399. I could keep the 1x15 and pick up a new 2x10 cab for $399 or used for $349. So it would be another $100 or so if I went with the head and cabs vs the combo and cab. Any benefits to one setup vs the other?

From what I have read, a Kemper would be best for you.

 

[Giffro]

Ok, so I have the Rumble 500c and just found a used 1x15 Rumble extension cab for it. The combo was $599 new and the cab was $199 used, so $800 total. The local GC just got in a used Rumble 500 head and it’s $399. I could keep the 1x15 and pick up a new 2x10 cab for $399 or used for $349. So it would be another $100 or so if I went with the head and cabs vs the combo and cab. Any benefits to one setup vs the other?

I have the 500C with the 115 ext cab and from what I understand you would be able to move more air with the 500 head by adding a couple of bigger cabs like the 4x10's etc, so if your band is a louder rock band then the more speaker/driver combinations would suit better most likely. The more speaker / driver surface of course the bigger the volume you are going to get. The 800 head allows 2, 4 or 8 Ohms (Switchable) settings. From what ive heard the 500 head isnt produced anymore.
For the sized venues I play this 500C with the added ext 115 cab satisfies every requirement for me.

 

[mbell75]

I have the 500C with the 115 ext cab and from what I understand you would be able to move more air with the 500 head by adding a couple of bigger cabs like the 4x10's etc, so if your band is a louder rock band then the more speaker/driver combinations would suit better most likely. The more speaker / driver surface of course the bigger the volume you are going to get. The 800 head allows 2, 4 or 8 Ohms (Switchable) settings. From what ive heard the 500 head isnt produced anymore.
For the sized venues I play this 500C with the added ext 115 cab satisfies every requirement for me.

Thanks. Yea, two 4x10s would be complete overkill and I like the sound of a 15 in the mix. 10s cannot get that same low end no matter how many you stack. I just wanted to know if there was an advantage to a head and two cabs vs a combo and a cab or vice versa.

 

[GonePlaid]

Thanks. Yea, two 4x10s would be complete overkill and I like the sound of a 15 in the mix. 10s cannot get that same low end no matter how many you stack. I just wanted to know if there was an advantage to a head and two cabs vs a combo and a cab or vice versa.

More exercise carrying them into the gig?