Fender Rumble Club

[honeyiscool]

I must be on a roll! This is my second post ever! I love my Fender Rumble 500 Combo amp. I am looking at adding an extension cab. So which do you prefer, Fender 410 or the 115? I have read a lot on this on talkbass.com, but I was unsure if folks were referring to the head or the combo amp. I have the Combo amp. Which is basically the 500 head with a 210? Thanks for your input!!

I think if you add an extension cab, you should add a matching 210:

Fender RUMBLE 700W 2x10 Bass Speaker Cabinet | Musician's Friend

It's the perfect match to your Rumble 500, sound and looks wise. I never really cared for the 1x15 extension with my Rumble 500 combo. I didn't think it ever did much and I couldn't hear it much probably because the 10s are "faster," so to speak. The 4x10" would also work well, but I think it's a bit overkill for a 500 watter.

 

[Linnin]

I must be on a roll! This is my second post ever! I love my Fender Rumble 500 Combo amp. I am looking at adding an extension cab. So which do you prefer, Fender 410 or the 115? I have read a lot on this on talkbass.com, but I was unsure if folks were referring to the head or the combo amp. I have the Combo amp. Which is basically the 500 head with a 210? Thanks for your input!!

Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club, stingrayK! You are member #379
The Rumble 500 combo is an excellent choice so congratulations The Rumble 115 is a very popular choice for an extension cabinet. The newly released Rumble 210 cab is proving quite popular also. To move the most air and gain the most volume, add the Rumble 410. I think the plaid one is going to give the Rumble 112 a go with his 500 combo. It's good to have choices

Rumbles Rule!

 

[honeyiscool]

So I ordered a Rumble 40 from AMS and it got here already. That thing is adorable. It's lighter than a bass guitar in a hard case. That's how light that thing is. It's impossible.

I already like it more than my Bronco 40, and I haven't even heard it yet. It's 12 pounds lighter! When it's a practice and rehearsal amp, sometimes being able to carry it easily to your friend's place is half the battle anyway. 30 pounds isn't heavy but when I have to park a block and a half away because street parking sucks at night, 18 pounds is still light. 30 pounds starts to feel heavy.

 

[stingrayK]

I think if you add an extension cab, you should add a matching 210:

Fender RUMBLE 700W 2x10 Bass Speaker Cabinet | Musician's Friend

It's the perfect match to your Rumble 500, sound and looks wise. I never really cared for the 1x15 extension with my Rumble 500 combo. I didn't think it ever did much and I couldn't hear it much probably because the 10s are "faster," so to speak. The 4x10" would also work well, but I think it's a bit overkill for a 500 watter.

Thank you! I am looking for something that is loud without sounding loud. I like to have a little room on the volume knob just in case. Plus my amp only goes to 10 instead of 11!

 

[stingrayK]

So there are 3 different Fender 410 cabs. Rumble 410, Bassman 410, and the Bassman Pro 410. Besides price, which one is best for the Rumble 500 combo amp? I know obviously the Rumble 410 should pair with the Rumble 500 combo, but are the others better?

 

[honeyiscool]

I thought it's just the Bassman Neo 410. Anyway, the difference is that the Bassman Neo 410 would have more expensive US-made Eminence Neodymium drivers, and made to higher production standards. The Rumble 410 is a great cab, but it was designed with a price point in mind. It has ceramic Chinese drivers designed by Eminence but is still a great cab.

But if you really stop and think about it, just because something is more expensive doesn't mean that it can't be a better value. If you can afford the Neo 410, it's absolutely the cab to get. Especially if you can find it used on Guitar Center's website or something like that, it's a cab that was built without trying to make it fit a certain budget, whereas the Rumble was built with that in mind. So I'm not saying that the Rumble cuts corners, because I don't think anything I've seen about any of the V3 Rumbles suggests that they've cut corners, but they are trying to make it affordable.

 

[stingrayK]

I thought it's just the Bassman Neo 410. Anyway, the difference is that the Bassman Neo 410 would have more expensive US-made Eminence Neodymium drivers, and made to higher production standards. The Rumble 410 is a great cab, but it was designed with a price point in mind. It has ceramic Chinese drivers designed by Eminence but is still a great cab.

But if you really stop and think about it, just because something is more expensive doesn't mean that it can't be a better value. If you can afford the Neo 410, it's absolutely the cab to get. Especially if you can find it used on Guitar Center's website or something like that, it's a cab that was built without trying to make it fit a certain budget, whereas the Rumble was built with that in mind. So I'm not saying that the Rumble cuts corners, because I don't think anything I've seen about any of the V3 Rumbles suggests that they've cut corners, but they are trying to make it affordable.

I agree with you! I bought the Rumble 500 combo amp after playing it at Guitar Center. My Stingray sounded awesome through it. I am partial to high end professional gear, but the Rumble 500 combo amp impressed me! Now I am stuck on deciding how to add to it! A friend of mine wants to sell me his Ampeg SVT410hlf, but I told him that would be sacrilegious. I don't want to be struck by lightening!

 

[Linnin]

The BIG difference being that the Rumble 410 is built to match and compliment your Rumble 500.
The Bassman Pro 410 Neo is a most excellent cabinet in it's own right, but the neo woofers are far more efficient and louder than the ceramic magnet drivers in your combo. That would be a sonic mismatch.

You would be well advised to avoid all things ampeg like the very plague itself.

 

[honeyiscool]

(The real issue with mixing brands is that it'll look bad.)

As for whether more expensive speakers are better than cheaper speakers...

All speakers sound, feel, weigh, look, and behave different, and some of those differences, you might consider better, and some of those differences come at a price.

For instance, I play guitar, so I have guitar amps. Over time, I have come to fall in love with and even depend on a certain sound that is only possible from a large Alnico magnet. It's really unfortunate, too, because that means I'm now paying $279 for a single guitar speaker, but what can I do? There are no cheaper speakers that do what I need a guitar speaker to do. So does a $279 Celestion Alnico Blue sound better than a $75 Eminence GB128? Oh, no. For one thing, the Alnico Blue is a 15 watt speaker, so it doesn't even work on larger amps. Also, a lot of people will play it and hate it. But whenever I play a guitar amp that doesn't have an alnico speaker in it, I feel that something is missing, and I install an alnico speaker in it, then I feel that my tone is back. It's probably not even something people in the audience can really tell. But I can, and that is worth every cent.

Bass speakers are a bit different. They're usually supposed to just be accurate and loud, whereas guitar speakers are often an important part of how to achieve a certain tone and therefore they're just as big a part of the character of sound as the kind of amp you have. But that doesn't mean bass speakers don't have character. Every speaker has its sound.

 

[stingrayK]

The BIG difference being that the Rumble 410 is built to match and compliment your Rumble 500.
The Bassman Pro 410 Neo is a most excellent cabinet in it's own right, but the neo woofers are far more efficient and louder than the ceramic magnet drivers in your combo. That would be a sonic mismatch.

You would be well advised to avoid all things ampeg like the very plague itself.

That is good because it saves money! Not opposed to spending it, but the money saved can go toward a new Ric! We are playing in small/medium bars, clubs and dives. Flexibility is what I need.

 

[Linnin]

That is good because it saves money! Not opposed to spending it, but the money saved can go toward a new Ric! We are playing in small/medium bars, clubs and dives. Flexibility is what I need.

If you're playing small and medium bars the 500 combo alone will do that just fine, and the 210 cab will be plenty. Unless you are going for 'the look', then the 410 is more impressive. Plus the 410 is $400 vs $350 for 210.

 

[stingrayK]

If you're playing small and medium bars the 500 combo alone will do that just fine, and the 210 cab will be plenty. Unless you are going for 'the look', then the 410 is more impressive. Plus the 410 is $400 vs $350 for 210.

I am so ugly the band probably wants me to get the 410 so I can stand behind it!!

 

[Big Hoss]

Just checking in guys, but wait! I read Fender now make a 2x10 extension cab for my 500 combo! Damn!
I don't need one.
I don't need one.
I don't need one.
I don't need one.

I don't need one but I need one? What in hells excuse can I use to buy one?
Volume.
Power.
Tone.
Balls.
Coolness.
Volume.
Room filling groovyness.
Volume.
Some thing to add to my new USA Precision.
Any other reason? Any one?
Anyone have this stack?
What do ya think?

You want some more beans to feed your GAS?

Okay guys, it's been several pages since we've had tons of Rumble pics, and since this is MY post, I am gonna post up pics that interest me...

The posted pics of the Rumble V3 500 combo with 210 cabs in order are... (bdplaid I can't find a pic of his combo with cab anywhere... so he got left out...).

Grayhook was first... I fully blame him, and Linin for making me want the 210 cab so bad, and my wife for saying "get it honey, it's your V-day gift..." But hey, you gotta admit, that just looks awesome standing proud like that!
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Our next winner in who matched the V3 500 combo to a 210 cab is M Kersh. Yeah like that pic didn't cause even more GAS.. What's worse is now I want a Jazz to go with it!
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Number three on the list is crucislancer... Oooh yeah that looks awesome! And yep, Still want a Jazz...Link Removed

Next, mine came in, and maybe I added to other peoples GAS problem a bit...

Our latest entry into the who stacked the V3 500 combo on top of a V3 210 cab is none other than Tad... I must say his pic not only gives you amp / cab GAS, but serious bass GAS... How does he store all of them?

Man if I had the bass collection / family photo like that, it would be my desktop wallpaper at work...

Now if you count bdplaid who didn't care for the 210 under the 500 combo, that would make 6 of us that have tried them out... I have only used mine for practice at this point, and annoying the snot out of the next door neighbor... It does that with great efficiency...

 

[bdplaid]

Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club, stingrayK! You are member #379
The Rumble 500 combo is an excellent choice so congratulations The Rumble 115 is a very popular choice for an extension cabinet. The newly released Rumble 210 cab is proving quite popular also. To move the most air and gain the most volume, add the Rumble 410. I think the plaid one is going to give the Rumble 112 a go with his 500 combo. It's good to have choices

Rumbles Rule!

I'm looking at a 12, but want to hear someone else's comments before I dive in. right now I'm really digging the 500 combo with the new tone settings (all the way down).

 

[bdplaid]

(The real issue with mixing brands is that it'll look bad.)


Bass speakers are a bit different. They're usually supposed to just be accurate and loud, whereas guitar speakers are often an important part of how to achieve a certain tone and therefore they're just as big a part of the character of sound as the kind of amp you have. But that doesn't mean bass speakers don't have character. Every speaker has its sound.

I don't know why you think that. Maybe it's a guitar player thing...

walk into GC and plug the same bass and head into different cabs, you'll hear a difference. Some you will like, some you won't. seems the same as your guitar deal to me.

 

[bdplaid]

re: speakers: my favorite guitar cab:

 

[Big Hoss]

Thank you! I am looking for something that is loud without sounding loud. I like to have a little room on the volume knob just in case. Plus my amp only goes to 10 instead of 11!

IF you are running a Rumble 500 combo, I can't recommend highly enough auditioning a 500 combo with a Rumble 210 external cab... Loud without sounding loud, to me says what I call "fullness" of the sound. The 500 combo with 210 cab does that it spades... It is a bit of a monster that like a Shelby Cobra, can get away from you if you apply the power with too much enthusiasm.

I am not sure about your area, but my local mom & pop guitar shop, Danny D's Guitar Hacienda, gotta love that name... anyway, they have a 500 combo and 210 cab in stock on the floor and I betcha they'd let you hook em up and give them a decent audition... Oddly enough, if I had the cash, and room to keep all the goodies I wanted, I would LOVE a second Rumble 500 combo / 210 stack, and would happily relieve Danny D's of the ones they have in stock...

Just like the prior poster that was running 2 Rumble 100s in stereo off of a Digitch pedal, I would love to run 2 500 / 210 cab rigs in stereo off of my Digitech pedal...

 

[BeerSuds]

I notice on the 40 that I picked up last week that there is a volume boost with the vintage button engaged. Is this normal for the V3's? Not that big of a deal really since this is just a practice amp and I like the tone with it engaged, but just curious if this is normal.

 

[Big Hoss]

If you're playing small and medium bars the 500 combo alone will do that just fine, and the 210 cab will be plenty. Unless you are going for 'the look', then the 410 is more impressive. Plus the 410 is $400 vs $350 for 210.

I am not entirely certain the 410 looks more impressive. I like the physical symmetry of the 210 under the 500 combo. On looks alone it's a real winner to me. They simply look like they belong together.

 

[honeyiscool]

Plus when you're loading the car, 210 is so much easier than 410.