Nah, just me using a term I picked up many, many mango seasons ago. Kinda like 'humididity'.
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Did someone say daisy chaining for 200 Alex?
An-nd, ... It's the Daily Double!!! How much would you like to wager, E?
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Thank you to everyone who has contributed wisdom to answer my questions - to pick up on a few points:
Taking this as an example of the "keep thinking about a 100" school of thought, and noting the example of daisy-chaining cabs, my short and sweet response is: interesting...
So basically I get one Rumble 100 to practice on, then use the FX loop to connect another one for another 100W if / when I need it, with the downside being lugging two combos rather than one (and splitting my cash on two lower-power amps rather than one biggun).
And the flip-side - get a big amp - and it looks like the 500 is the main contender for this option since I don't need the fancy modelling stuff on the 200, so more power for the money rather than more features and 40W extra.
On the contrary - it was very useful, and your comment re: bottom B strings is exceptionally useful in this context, since I almost always play a 5 and I've been curious about exactly this point.
Thank you also to others who have responded.
What I think I have to do at this point is have a pint with the rest of the band and talk about what it is we're all expecting from the current setup (which is still pretty new - even if we play like we've known each other for years, which is very cool and I'm enjoying so much
). Basically I've got to find out if we're doing the chasing gigs, audiences and taking it seriously thing - in which case the 500 looks like the right choice, long-term, or whether it's going to stay "for us" and be odd occasions where we're doing a bit of elevator music, improv. etc. as a now-and-then thing.
I'll try to report back when I've seen the chaps on Wednesday.
Thanks again all.
Taking this as an example of the "keep thinking about a 100" school of thought, and noting the example of daisy-chaining cabs, my short and sweet response is: interesting...
So basically I get one Rumble 100 to practice on, then use the FX loop to connect another one for another 100W if / when I need it, with the downside being lugging two combos rather than one (and splitting my cash on two lower-power amps rather than one biggun).
And the flip-side - get a big amp - and it looks like the 500 is the main contender for this option since I don't need the fancy modelling stuff on the 200, so more power for the money rather than more features and 40W extra.
I was a 15" snob for decades since the '70s and had my doubts about the 2x10" Rumble 500 combo. But it has handled even the low B on my 5-string bass, even at high volume, just fine for 9-½ years, so far.
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Sorry, if this isn't much help.
On the contrary - it was very useful, and your comment re: bottom B strings is exceptionally useful in this context, since I almost always play a 5 and I've been curious about exactly this point.
Thank you also to others who have responded.
What I think I have to do at this point is have a pint with the rest of the band and talk about what it is we're all expecting from the current setup (which is still pretty new - even if we play like we've known each other for years, which is very cool and I'm enjoying so much
). Basically I've got to find out if we're doing the chasing gigs, audiences and taking it seriously thing - in which case the 500 looks like the right choice, long-term, or whether it's going to stay "for us" and be odd occasions where we're doing a bit of elevator music, improv. etc. as a now-and-then thing.I'll try to report back when I've seen the chaps on Wednesday.
Thanks again all.
My reason for the 2xR100 concept is that I like the sound of 12s(my first bass cab had 2x12)so daisy chaining 2R100s would give the potential of 200W through 2 12s. (None of my three Rumbles[40, 100, 200c] has ever had the Master past 'noon'.)
Wait a minute. It's time to show my ignorance. You have two 100s and you chain/jumper them using the FX loop?
How?
Bass into 100.1 and then SEND from 100.1 into the RETURN of 100.2? Doesn't that cut out the power section of 100.1 due to an incomplete FX loop? I guess that it doesn't if you're doing it so that implies that the Rumble's front end is shunted only when something is plugged into the RETURN, not the SEND. Interesting indeed.
It also implies that you are getting all your EQ from 100.1 and just using the power section of 100.2.
Why not an ABY from bass to amps? Lets you use each EQ (or amp, for that matter) independently. Yeah, more to mess with. Just thinking out loud.
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I also find that carrying 2 100's is easier than 1 500 or 1 200...you'kno, cuz I'm old...and the 2 100's look cooler, kinda like a mini fridge....maybe a dorm room fridge....
And you won't tip over from an unbalanced load.
The FX send is in a Y config with a wire switched at the the FX return. So the signal goes in parallel to the amp of 100.1 and to 100.2 unless you also plug something into the FX return of 100.1. If you can understand the block diagram in the club wiki, you'll see that.
Correct.
If that's what I wanted, I would (I considered it). Some people do. And if I ever wire a bass for stereo, I have the amps to play with that. But for now I just want the fuller sound of 2x12 most days, so this gives me what I want, and is no more complex than it needs to be.
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Thanks for the explanation/confirmation. I was pondering that diagram just as you responded. I know just enough to be dangerous, as you can see.
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Let me suggest an intermediate consideration between two R100s (200W) and a single R500c (350W). How about a single R200c (140W) for small venues now, then save up for another R200c later to connect (280W) for bigger venues. At that later date you may even decide that just another 100 is enough, instead of another 200(140W), or you may go for the 500(350W) then! A flexible mid-level plan.
Wait! What??!? NO, No, no!! The Rumble 200 doesn't have any fancy modeling stuff! The Rumble 40, 100, 200 & 500 share the same manual 'cause they share the same preamp and controls. The only differences are the power amps and speakers.
The fancy modeling Rumbles are the LT25, Studio 40 and Stage 800 only. They are totally different animals from the 15, 25, 40, 100, 200, 500 & newest 800 combo. Fun & flexible, but quite different.
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The fancy modeling Rumbles are the LT25, Studio 40 and Stage 800 only. They are totally different animals from the 15, 25, 40, 100, 200, 500 & newest 800 combo. Fun & flexible, but quite different.
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Sorry - my bad. I knew one of them had it, thought it was the 200. Happy to be corrected. Puts the 200 back in the running I guess.
Yup, one wire/cable. Done.
I have daisy chained the 100>200=240W. Too much for the room, which is one of the biggest we play.
I have a Rumble 200 and a 115ext cab, (bought used for $450usd together) although the 200 has been enough volume for the band I play in (had a 100 first and I blew the speaker trying to keep up, I find the 200 to be considerably louder with the 15) if I plug in the 115 ext cab, it really ups the volume and low end. I've had complaints about it being to loud, so now only use the extra cab for big areas or outdoors.
That being said, I've played through a Rumble 500 and it's much louder yet, and on its own. With an ext cab it can keep up with or overpower most situations, and probably by itself without an ext cab.
If you have the $$, consider the new 800 non effects combo, the fact that the DI, XLR out isn't affected by the master volume is huge, you can adjust stage volume and not affect the line out volume (if you don't mess with the EQ or gain after sound check) and you can turn the master to 0 and record silently into an audio interface, using the 800 combo as a preamp. (correct me if I'm wrong).
Good luck, all the Rumbles are great for the $$ in my opinion.
Whoa - I like the strap on the precision. Where's that one from?[/QUOTE]
I will say, people have had problems with Ergo Straps, but I think the company now has a different owner. It is a nice strap, it's the thickest padded strap I have and is still like new after 5 years.
BASS STRAPS – Ergo Straps
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I'm sure not. But an awful lot of them end up there. One of my favorite fictional characters is Serge A. Storms, from Tim Dorsey's novels. I just noticed that Dorsey passed away a couple of weeks ago at age 62. What a loss.
