Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

You've had better luck than I have with small amps in band settings. I've also never played an acoustic gig. Just settings with loud drummers and guitar players that insist that their tubes have to be glowing. ... ...

Yeah, Dook, I have been very lucky in recent years to play with excellent musicians. But, before that, I was in your shoes, so to speak, with a very loud country cover band. That was, in fact, what drove me to the R500c, 'cause my Bassman 250 115 wasn't cutting it and I was tired of carrying my Bassman 150 112 to chain to it, even for practice & rehearsals.​

... ... I thought my rumble 100 would be fine for jamming but I couldn't hear it over a drummer friend while maintaining tone. With the stage 800, I found myself constantly dialing my volume down just so the guitars would quit thinking it was a competition.

There is age-related maturity and there is musical maturity. They don't always have to go together, but that does often seem to happen.
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[Mastermold]

Yeah, Dook, I have been very lucky in recent years to play with excellent musicians. But, before that, I was in your shoes, so to speak, with a very loud country cover band. That was, in fact, what drove me to the R500c, 'cause my Bassman 250 115 wasn't cutting it and I was tired of carrying my Bassman 150 112 to chain to it, even for practice & rehearsals.​

There is age-related maturity and there is musical maturity. They don't always have to go together, but that does often seem to happen.
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The room played is a factor too, some rooms soak up bass and others kick it off the walls. In my band I have two little 112 combo amps I'm able to gig with in small rooms we play, my trusty Mesa Walkabout and my Rumble 100.

 

[GonePlaid]

I'm one of 'em. I've gigged the Rumble 40 in small to medium sized rooms and theaters in various band settings, from trios to a big band (saxes, trombones, trumpets etc.). It does just fine.

I use mine behind a 50ish piece concert band. Also on some trio(guitar, drums, bass)gigs in small spaces-like a restaurant as background music.

 

[pepj]

I'm sorry, I'd have to hear that because that doesn't compute in any world of mine.

The Rumble 100 turns up on Jams so I might use it but adequate for the job is a tough call.
If you can get by on it, then maybe our versions of getting by are not close.

 

[Scopey]

@Scopey , people have made some good suggestions or asked some good questions. I have a couple of other things to offer, in hopes that this will be helpful.

A small room should not require the master volume at 1 to 3 o'clock.

What other instruments are in your band (sounds like there's more than one guitar)?

Regarding EQ, if you are boosting the mids then you may be putting your sound in the same frequency range as the guitars or keyboard if your band has a keyboard. You might want to try boosting the treble to differentiate your sound from them.

You can also try using the BRIGHT button on the Rumble 40, if you have not already tried that.

Also, your bass may sound very different to the audience compared to how it sounds to you. Are you standing right in front of your amp, or close to it?

Hej John

We have a drummer, vocalist, bassist and guitarist. The guitarist likes to up the volume, I do tend to tell him to go down on the volume occasionally, since it makes no sense to play that loud in a studio room. But I do often find myself forced to up the volume just to hear myself

If I up the bass, it feels like the sound becomes too boomy and not tight at all. Right now I am actually keeping everything around 9oclock range with treble around 10.

I am about 2-3 meter from the amp, since it is such a small room that gives me the furthest distance from the amp.

 

[Scopey]

Yeah, what bass AND where do you have the GAIN set?

Tim

Hej Tim
I have few basses Dingwall, Yamaha Trbx 505, Musicman Knock off

I have the gain and master around 2-3 oclock. I have put the bass to 9 oclock because otherwise it becomes too booms. And I took mids down to 9oclock otherwise it gets way too growly/rumly the sound.

 

[G-Dog]

I'm sorry, I'd have to hear that because that doesn't compute in any world of mine.

The Rumble 100 turns up on Jams so I might use it but adequate for the job is a tough call.
If you can get by on it, then maybe our versions of getting by are not close.

As I suspected.

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[13bass]

I'm one of 'em. I've gigged the Rumble 40 in small to medium sized rooms and theaters in various band settings, from trios to a big band (saxes, trombones, trumpets etc.). It does just fine.

Yep, me too, and with a drummer. And even with loud drummers my R100 keeps up just fine.
Still, I'm itching for a R800

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Hej Tim
I have few basses Dingwall, Yamaha Trbx 505, Musicman Knock off

I have the gain and master around 2-3 oclock. I have put the bass to 9 oclock because otherwise it becomes too booms. And I took mids down to 9oclock otherwise it gets way too growly/rumly the sound.

Is the amp on the floor? If so, does raising it help reduce/eliminate the boominess? I have my GR Bass and Rumble amps stacked, so using a tilt-back stand wouldn't work for me. I use an Auralex GRAMMA v2 acoustic isolation pad to separate the bottom amp from the floor.

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[13bass]

Hej Tim
I have few basses Dingwall, Yamaha Trbx 505, Musicman Knock off

I have the gain and master around 2-3 oclock. I have put the bass to 9 oclock because otherwise it becomes too booms. And I took mids down to 9oclock otherwise it gets way too growly/rumly the sound.

Gain and master at 2-3 ought to be really loud and handle any drummer I would think, or he is REALLY pounding the crap out of those drums! Although moving the bass to 9-9:30 is not unusual for me, but I always keep the low/high mids in the 1-2 range, and if anything, bump the treble up to 11 or 12 to cut through the guitars better as it is a bit more of a distinctive bass tone, if that makes sense.
When I practice with current band, drummer (fairly loud one) 2 guitars and myself, and think the band is way too loud for the practice room, but I still only have my R100 gain and volume at noon. Everything else is close to what is flat, i.e. 10/2/2/10 and vintage on.
I have found that if I also engage the drive (been experimenting with this lately for fun) and put drive/level both at noon, it gives the bass just a little grit/growl, but not overly so. Even adds a bit of volume to my ears, but everyone's ears are different.
Good for 70s/80s/classic/southern rock that we play.

 

[GonePlaid]

Gain and master at 2-3 ought to be really loud and handle any drummer I would think, or he is REALLY pounding the crap out of those drums! Although moving the bass to 9-9:30 is not unusual for me, but I always keep the low/high mids in the 1-2 range, and if anything, bump the treble up to 11 or 12 to cut through the guitars better as it is a bit more of a distinctive bass tone, if that makes sense.
When I practice with current band, drummer (fairly loud one) 2 guitars and myself, and think the band is way too loud for the practice room, but I still only have my R100 gain and volume at noon. Everything else is close to what is flat, i.e. 10/2/2/10 and vintage on.
I have found that if I also engage the drive (been experimenting with this lately for fun) and put drive/level both at noon, it gives the bass just a little grit/growl, but not overly so. Even adds a bit of volume to my ears, but everyone's ears are different.
Good for 70s/80s/classic/southern rock that we play.

As @13bass well knows(he's seen us)we don't play LOUD. And if anything, our drummer often isn't loud enuff (jazz background, fairly light touch). There is absolutely no point in having a volume related pi$$ing contest. Our usual crowd is in their 60s+ and they wanna be able to talk to each other w/o screaming over the band.

AFA using the R40 for a 50+/- piece concert band, I'm taking the place of a string bass, and/or complementing the tubas. I'm not s'posed to 'heard' as in standing out, just reinforcing the bottom.


None of my Rumbles-40, 100, 200c-have ever had volume or gain above noon. Usually ~10-11 max. EQ's are around 10/2ish/2ish/10; VINTAGE-on/in; drive as MUTE. Amp ALWAYS on a stand angled up toward my ears. (My knees barely work as knees; not worth a damn as ears).
EDIT:

I used to one of these-Bassman 25(yes, 25W)for concert band and small restaurant gigs. I still have it but it developed a habit of 'cutting out' at inopportune times. Also, it's heavier(33#)than the R100(22#).[I have since found and reglued the "7"]

 

[WI Short Scaler]

Can I ask any of the Rumble club members here that are using the Rumble Studio 40 about their experiences with it. Ease of programming, quality of the sounds, how does it hold up being hauled to gigs, any issues?

Anything you can tell me. I've seen some Youtube videos and am giving one some serious thought. The downside for me is there is no store within a 2 hr drive that has one I can try out. I currently have a Rumble 100 and could couple those together if it isn't loud enough for a stage monitor. But since we are cajon/guitar/bass it may work for us.

Thanks!

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Can I ask any of the Rumble club members here that are using the Rumble Studio 40 about their experiences with it. Ease of programming, quality of the sounds, how does it hold up being hauled to gigs, any issues?

Anything you can tell me. I've seen some Youtube videos and am giving one some serious thought. The downside for me is there is no store within a 2 hr drive that has one I can try out. I currently have a Rumble 100 and could couple those together if it isn't loud enough for a stage monitor. But since we are cajon/guitar/bass it may work for us.

Thanks!

I bought mine after I moved to France (230V). I had to sell my 40 and 200 combos (120V) before the move. I use mine in a home studio and don't gig with it. Here are some things I like about it, compared to the regular 40.

1) It has a Rumble v3 preset that gives you 4 band EQ control (vs the 3 band physical control knobs).

2) It has a tweeter, which is useful in some cases.

3) It has both Pre-DI and Post-DI XLR outputs (and I just learned today that you can use both at the same time).

4) It has some sound insulation padding that the regular 40 didn't.

5) It supports the 7-button GTX-7 footswitch (must be selected via Setup).

6) Make 100% certain that the wi-fi is off except for BIOS updates, or you'll get audio dropouts (documented by Fender, but caught me by surprise (didn't read the manual; ha)).

7) It works with the Fender Tone app on Android (and maybe on iPhones; defaults to Mustang guitar presets until connected to the Studio 40/Stage 800 via Bluetooth).

8) It comes with black grill cloth and not gray!!!

9) There are 100 presets. Some sound really good. I was happy to find a preset for the Fender Bassman. That was my first amp. I had a late '64 model.

10) There are 100 spare preset slots for your use (either completely new presets or modded versions of existing ones).

11) It's got some decent FX like reverb that you can add (and a stereo DI).

I haven't yet tried chaining my Studio 40 to my GR Bass AT Cube 500 combo. That would probably generate complaints from my neighbors in the building.

This video uses the GTX-7 with the Mustang amp, but everything works the same for the Studio and Stage Rumbles.

 

[trseal]

Hej Tim
I have few basses Dingwall, Yamaha Trbx 505, Musicman Knock off

I have the gain and master around 2-3 oclock. I have put the bass to 9 oclock because otherwise it becomes too booms. And I took mids down to 9oclock otherwise it gets way too growly/rumly the sound.

Since you're using all active basses, I think I'd start at bringing the gain down considerably--like south of noon. I used to have a Sterling and I found the gain at +/- 9:00 or less gave a really clean, tight low end. I'm not afraid to dial the Master all the way up. (further, if I need it...). If you need more, add gain to taste. Your results may vary.

Tim

 

[Mastermold]

Yep, me too, and with a drummer. And even with loud drummers my R100 keeps up just fine.
Still, I'm itching for a R800

Yeah I’m impressed with the new 800 and would certainly use it but my 100 is doing the job just fine so I’m content for now with it. In my opinion the real value of the Rumble series is their utility and convenience and the 100 is about as easy as it gets for smaller gigs.

 

[WI Short Scaler]

I bought mine after I moved to France (230V). I had to sell my 40 and 200 combos (120V) before the move. I use mine in a home studio and don't gig with it. Here are some things I like about it, compared to the regular 40.

1) It has a Rumble v3 preset that gives you 4 band EQ control (vs the 3 band physical control knobs).

2) It has a tweeter, which is useful in some cases.

3) It has both Pre-DI and Post-DI XLR outputs (and I just learned today that you can use both at the same time).

4) It has some sound insulation padding that the regular 40 didn't.

5) It supports the 7-button GTX-7 footswitch (must be selected via Setup).

6) Make 100% certain that the wi-fi is off except for BIOS updates, or you'll get audio dropouts (documented by Fender, but caught me by surprise (didn't read the manual; ha)).

7) It works with the Fender Tone app on Android (and maybe on iPhones; defaults to Mustang guitar presets until connected to the Studio 40/Stage 800 via Bluetooth).

8) It comes with black grill cloth and not gray!!!

9) There are 100 presets. Some sound really good. I was happy to find a preset for the Fender Bassman. That was my first amp. I had a late '64 model.

10) There are 100 spare preset slots for your use (either completely new presets or modded versions of existing ones).

11) It's got some decent FX like reverb that you can add (and a stereo DI).

I haven't yet tried chaining my Studio 40 to my GR Bass AT Cube 500 combo. That would probably generate complaints from my neighbors in the building.

This video uses the GTX-7 with the Mustang amp, but everything works the same for the Studio and Stage Rumbles.

Thank you for taking time to respond. I'm very intrigued at the thought of one. My two partsbasses are my main players but the tone is very different between them. I take 2 basses to every gig and usually swap at a break so both get some playing time. I am pretty familiar with how I need to change the settings on my R100 so the FOH sound is similar between the two. But who doesn't like the idea of clicking a preset and go!?

Plus they seem to have some cool sounds.

 

[E Buzz]

My sweet spot for all my gigs...

 

[13bass]

Yeah I’m impressed with the new 800 and would certainly use it but my 100 is doing the job just fine so I’m content for now with it. In my opinion the real value of the Rumble series is their utility and convenience and the 100 is about as easy as it gets for smaller gigs.

Agree completely and yet... still itching for it
Definitely falls into the category of wanting, but not needing it, but for some mysterious reason, buy it anyway.

 

[PBO Blues]

...Definitely falls into the category of wanting, but not needing it, but for some mysterious reason, buy it anyway.

The sustaining principle of whole guitar/bass market, this. And my financial ruin.

 

[GregT]

Here's my Fender guitar stack. A Blues Junior on top of a Rumble 100. I tried this today instead of separating them, and the two 12-inch speakers worked well together. The octave pedal is in the effects loop of the Rumble, and it isn't always on. I use a Radial Twin City to split my guitar's signal to two amps. The Blues Jr. is run off a pedalboard with delays, overdrives and stuff. Either amp sounds great on its own, and together it's even better. It's the kind of exciting tone in the room that inspires me to play better. More of a high-fidelity sound. You can't get a guitar amp to fully produce the lowest note on a guitar this way; all you can do is turn up the bass. With the octave pedal off, this is the most full-range guitar setup I've ever played through.