Fender Rumble Club

[Miles_ONeal]

It's a Genesis Ultimate Support AMP-150. The vertical thing extends(it's ~ 1/2 way in the pic)and is threaded on top to put a boom-or gooseneck-for a mic to mic the amp. Prolly would hold 2R100s. Got it from SW.

Right - your recommendation was why I bought mine. It can hold two R100s, but it feels a bit precarious because it leans so far back even at the minimum angle with just the single round bar to hold the top amp in place. I've used it that way but was nervous through the whole set both times.

 

[GonePlaid]

Sound guy’s choice. Actually he both mic’ed the amp and used the XLR out. I’ve known sound guys to do that so they can mix both incoming signals, though most of these guys don’t know about the built-in cab sim. Still, I see no harm in it, and the sound guy was happy with the result.

As long as he's happy and your happy.

 

[G-Dog]

Sound guy’s choice. Actually he both mic’ed the amp and used the XLR out. I’ve known sound guys to do that so they can mix both incoming signals, though most of these guys don’t know about the built-in cab sim. Still, I see no harm in it, and the sound guy was happy with the result.

Yes! I believe it's a good idea to have both available, since they are both post-EQ. What they do with it is on them. [Rant] No soundman ever asks the lead guitarist for a pre-EQ signal! I craft my tones almost as much and certainly deserve the same respect. [/rant]
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[GonePlaid]

Yes! I believe it's a good idea to have both available, since they are both post-EQ. What they do with it is on them. [Rant] No soundman ever asks the lead guitarist for a pre-EQ signal! I craft my tones almost as much and certainly deserve the same respect. [/rant]
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"Lemme know how that works out for ya"-Dr. Phil

 

[G-Dog]

... ... I ... certainly deserve the same respect. [/rant]
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"Lemme know how that works out for ya"-Dr. Phil

Me:

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[JakobT]

As long as he's happy and your happy.

I usually don’t argue too much with the sound guy, as he often knows the room best. Since both signals are post-EQ I get close enough to the sound I want in most cases.

 

[GonePlaid]

Me:

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I met him in ~81when he came to see a show(no, not us)at the hotel we played at. He ducked outta the back of the theater where that show was and that brought him through the service bar for the lounge we were in. BIG man. Nice to us, but not the same guy you'd see on "Carson".

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Sound guy’s choice. Actually he both mic’ed the amp and used the XLR out. I’ve known sound guys to do that so they can mix both incoming signals, though most of these guys don’t know about the built-in cab sim. Still, I see no harm in it, and the sound guy was happy with the result.

FYI

 

[JakobT]

FYI

Thanks for the info.

I think this is probably less of a problem in a live setting than with a recording, and in any case I wouldn’t want to argue the issue with the sound guy, nor would I have the faintest idea of how to correct it, other than by disregarding his setup completely.

Also I have no way of knowing whether he used just the DI, just the mic or both. It sounded good, so I’m happy.

 

[pepj]

Some sound guys might think certain DI's can causes issues themselves so if it isnt known which way that might turn out, he has already set up his options and he can move on to typically more problematic instruments.

 

[Ggaa]

Would the Rumble 200 combo with an extension cab (say 15") be enough for a band? Rock-blues band?

I'd say yes...I used a 200 head with one or both GK MBE 115 cabs for around 4 years. It replaced an Ampeg SVT3 non pro. Mostly outside gigs, never any shortcomings, never had to turn it up past half. Only sold it because it only had 1/4" speaker outs, with everything newer going to Speakons.

 

[GonePlaid]

I'd say yes...I used a 200 head with one or both GK MBE 115 cabs for around 4 years. It replaced an Ampeg SVT3 non pro. Mostly outside gigs, never any shortcomings, never had to turn it up past half. Only sold it because it only had 1/4" speaker outs, with everything newer going to Speakons.

Funny. Everything I own has 1/4". I won't buy anything that only has Speakons.

 

[G-Dog]

... ... ...I used a 200 head with one or both GK MBE 115 cabs for around 4 years. It replaced an Ampeg SVT3 non pro. Mostly outside gigs, never any shortcomings, never had to turn it up past half. Only sold it because it only had 1/4" speaker outs, with everything newer going to Speakons.

G'day, Gag. @Ggaa, you are now member #1710 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

It's my understanding that Speakons were originally intended for safety reasons with high power speaker cables, over 500 watts. Thus, the Rumble 200 and 500 heads didn't need them and, as value line products, didn't get them. Then, the secure connection became popular and some lower power equipment started getting them. So, they may now have the reputation as a "pro-level" feature, but there are dangerous Speakon knock-offs to beware of!

So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble experience in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds, even some who don't think of themselves as Rumblers any more. But, once a Rumbler, always a Rumbler. 'Cause we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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[Ggaa]

G'day, Gag. @Ggaa, you are now member #1710 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

It's my understanding that Speakons were originally intended for safety reasons with high power speaker cables, over 500 watts. Thus, the Rumble 200 and 500 heads didn't need them and, as value line products, didn't get them. Then, the secure connection became popular and some lower power equipment started getting them. So, they may now have the reputation as a "pro-level" feature.

So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble experience in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds, even some who don't think of themselves as Rumblers any more. But, once a Rumbler, always a Rumbler. 'Cause we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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Been gigging since '77, playing 5ers since '85. Got a Rumble 100 about 5 years ago for rehearsal. Got bored a few months ago and replaced the spkr with a Basslite. Did give it more high mid mids and upper mids. Got a Rumble 800 head when I retired the 200. Don't want a mixed bag of 1/4" and Speakon cables. Also have a Genzler Magellan 800. Wick Streamer with Barts, GPS Corvette, both passive 5ers.

 

[G-Dog]

Been gigging since '77, playing 5ers since '85. Got a Rumble 100 about 5 years ago for rehearsal. Got bored a few months ago and replaced the spkr with a Basslite. Did give it more high mid mids and upper mids. Got a Rumble 800 head when I retired the 200. Don't want a mixed bag of 1/4" and Speakon cables. Also have a Genzler Magellan 800. Wick Streamer with Barts, GPS Corvette, both passive 5ers.

Ah! So, you do still own a Rumble, or two! Good for you. But, even your Rumble 800 HD will allow the use of 1/4" cable connectors with its genuine Neutrik 1/4" combo jacks!

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[GonePlaid]

Ah! So, you do still own a Rumble, or two! Good for you. But, even your Rumble 800 HD will allow the use of 1/4" cable connectors with its genuine Neutrik 1/4" combo jacks!

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Yeah. If a potential acquisition has those, maybe. It'd cost me much more than I'm willing(or able)to fork over ATM, even to buy adapters[1/4" to Speakon or reverse].

 

[mixbus]

[UPDATE]

I received the Fender Rumble 500C from Sam Ash yesterday.
Short story - all good.

It shipped in the standard Fender carton with no other box or outer cardboard sleeve. I guess they think it's enough to protect it in shipping. I disagree, but whadda I know.

The box was pretty beat up. I was less than hopeful - but plowed on regardless.
I unboxed it, and it all looked good.

After plugging in & testing, there were no rattles or buzzing! Yay!
I think the fan is louder than it should be. I may investigate replacing it with something quieter after the warranty runs out.

This amp is STUPID loud!
With an extension cab, I could've covered any gig I've done in the last 45 years!

To me, the voicing between the 200c 15" and the 500c 2-10" speakers is slightly different. Not enough to make me want the 15" again. Nice!

I've had various setups with 10" or 15" speakers over the years, so I had an idea of what I was getting.

So a good deal all around! Good price & quick shipping. I'll take it!

 

[G-Dog]

[UPDATE]

I received the Fender Rumble 500C from Sam Ash yesterday.
Short story - all good.

It shipped in the standard Fender carton with no other box or outer cardboard sleeve. I guess they think it's enough to protect it in shipping. I disagree, but whadda I know. ... ... ...

Yay! Congratulations! But, I'm with you, mixer! I don't recall ever receiving a shipped Fender product without another, usually blank, box around it, and I'm spoiled to that! IIRC, it was my Rumble Studio 40 that arrived in a banged up and torn(!) outside box 4-1/2 years ago. The UPS man was in too much of a hurry to watch me open it (and couldn't do anything without a return label anyway). But, fortunately, the Fender box was barely scathed! And my Studio 40 has been simply wonderful ever since! ​

... ... ... The box was pretty beat up. I was less than hopeful - but plowed on regardless. I unboxed it, and it all looked good.

After plugging in & testing, there were no rattles or buzzing! Yay!
I think the fan is louder than it should be. I may investigate replacing it with something quieter after the warranty runs out.

This amp is STUPID loud! With an extension cab, I could've covered any gig I've done in the last 45 years! ... ... ...

Huh?!? WHADJASAY?!? Oh, yeah, I was just practicing with my R500c and couldn't "hear" you! In fact, the 350w R500c alone would have been sufficient for any bass event I've ever played since I began in '71! I did use a Bassman Neo 115 cab with it outdoors a couple of times, but it wasn't really necessary, just a whole lot of fun!!!

Sorry about the fan. After the next 2 years of warranty, you may not notice it so much. I've never heard mine, even when I tried once!​

... ... ... To me, the voicing between the 200c 15" and the 500c 2-10" speakers is slightly different. Not enough to make me want the 15" again. Nice!

I've had various setups with 10" or 15" speakers over the years, so I had an idea of what I was getting.

So a good deal all around! Good price & quick shipping. I'll take it!

The R500c is my first bass amp with 10" speakers, and I did NOT expect it to sound so good. I was a 15" snob, taking a chance to find out for myself what the "catch" was on this too-good-to-be-true little powerhouse. It handled my fiver's low B string with rich, full tones that I cannot distinguish from those coming thru the Bassman Neo 115! I still don't know what the "catch" is!
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[GonePlaid]

Yay! Congratulations! But, I'm with you, mixer! I don't recall ever receiving a shipped Fender product without another, usually blank, box around it, and I'm spoiled to that! IIRC, it was my Rumble Studio 40 that arrived in a banged up and torn(!) outside box 4-1/2 years ago. The UPS man was in too much of a hurry to watch me open it (and couldn't do anything without a return label anyway). But, fortunately, the Fender box was barely scathed! And my Studio 40 has been simply wonderful ever since! ​

Huh?!? WHADJASAY?!? Oh, yeah, I was just practicing with my R500c and couldn't "hear" you! In fact, the 350w R500c alone would have been sufficient for any bass event I've ever played since I began in '71! I did use a Bassman Neo 115 cab with it outdoors a couple of times, but it wasn't really necessary, just a whole lot of fun!!!

Sorry about the fan. After the next 2 years of warranty, you may not notice it so much. I've never heard mine, even when I tried once!​

The R500c is my first bass amp with 10" speakers, and I did NOT expect it to sound so good. I was a 15" snob, taking a chance to find out for myself what the "catch" was on this too-good-to-be-true little powerhouse. It handled my fiver's low B string with rich, full tones that I cannot distinguish from those coming thru the Bassman Neo 115! I still don't know what the "catch" is!
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Mississippi River catfish.

 

[mixbus]

Sorry about the fan. After the next 2 years of warranty, you may not notice it so much. I've never heard mine, even when I tried once!

The fan is defiantly louder than my original Rumble 200c. Just par for the course getting cheap off the shelf bulk fans. If it's a quick connect - it should be relatively easy to find a quiet higher quality substitute. I did this a lot on PC's back in the day when I had them in the studio.

The R500c is my first bass amp with 10" speakers, and I did NOT expect it to sound so good. I was a 15" snob, taking a chance to find out for myself what the "catch" was on this too-good-to-be-true little powerhouse. It handled my fiver's low B string with rich, full tones that I cannot distinguish from those coming thru the Bassman Neo 115! I still don't know what the "catch" is!

Yeah - I go back & forth from 15" to 10"s. All the way back to my Bassman 50 watt head with a matching 2-15" cab (great amp) & my first (of two) SVT's with 8-10's, then the long & winding road of Acoustic (several), Sunn, SWR (several), Fender 400 combo, Ashdown combo, Ampeg combo, Rumbles etc.... I think that's all of 'em.... Probably one or two my subconscience wants to forget!

This 500c even without an extension cab would've covered 90% of all the various styles and bands I've played in!

OY! what a crazy journey!