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Fender Rumble Club

#5,601
Linnin said:
As long as they match volume wise and complement each other tone wise that is what is important.
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They match volume wise, but the NEO 210 seems to muddy up the punchyness, (if that makes sense). Warmth and punch at the same time is the best way I can think to describe what I'm shooting for, might be a bit much to ask, but I've hardly scratched the surface with the settings.

So far, my MIJ Jag DLX and my Jazz have never sounded better though.:thumbsup:
 
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lowsideonacurve said:
They match volume wise, but the NEO 210 seems to muddy up the punchyness, (if that makes sense). Warmth and punch at the same time is the best way I can think to describe what I'm shooting for, might be a bit much to ask, but I've hardly scratched the surface with the settings.

So far, my MIJ Jag DLX and my Jazz have never sounded better though.:thumbsup:
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Simple as that! Sell your Acoustic Neo 210 and buy a Fender Rumble 210 cabinet! Love At First Bite!
 
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I don't love the Zoom B3 or G3 with every fiber of my being. But they're good enough for most needs. They really respond well to time and effort to configure for your exact needs. I still use a dedicated pedalboard with individual pedals when I have a gig that I really want to be 100% for. But if it's just practice at home or one of those rent by the hour places where I'm not bothering with an amp, I can load up the B3/G3 with some rechargeable AA batteries, two 1/4" cables, and show up with just a Mono gig bag's worth of stuff and be prepared for anything. Don't even need a power supply. Also useful as a home headphone setup.

I use my Zoom pedals at some gigs, too. You know the ones you care slightly less about but would never tell the band leader so?
 
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I bought the ZOOM B3 because for the price of a pair of much lessor stomp boxes, I could get a very high quality digital multi-effects unit. I wanted studio quality reverb for bass, and ZOOM AIR is it! I also wanted studio quality chorus; phasor, and flanger. The various ZOOM offerings are good, but not great.

Source Audio Reverb and Orbital Modulator are much better, but my stars are they outrageously expensive! $600 for the pair! Ouch!
 
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I think Zoom could definitely make a better product for basses. For instance, I have the G3-X, and while you can use it for bass, it's a guitar unit. And it's so much better than the plain vanilla B3. For one thing, it has a built-in expression pedal. Also, it can have up to six effects at once, and some of those effects can be quite involved. With six effects, you can do anything you can even imagine, even if one of them is a modeling amp. Makes it very useful for live use. I'll often set up a patch with 5 effects and the 6th one will be a modeling amp. When I'm playing at home, I can use the full chain, and when I'm playing live, I can just ignore the 6th effect and just use the other five.

The B3, meanwhile, is a bit underwhelming. It just does three effects. And if you use one for modeling, then you're down to two. If you configure a fuzz pedal and maybe a synth pedal, that's it. No room for a wah. And even if you have a wah, no built-in expression pedal.

If Zoom could combine all the stomp boxes and amps in the B3 and G3 w/ the added pedal count of the G3 and then build a slightly bigger chassis with a built-in expression pedal (like the G3-X), maybe a couple more controls for easily switching from one effect to another, while keeping similar price and the ability to use plain jane AA batteries, just imagine how that would fly off the shelves.

But I guess they like making money from repeat customers (like me) who end up buying multiple Zoom pedals instead of making one to rule them all. Heh.
 
#5,606
Linnin said:
You'd prefer the Rumble 40 + ZOOM B3 over the Fender Bronco 40.
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Also, to go back to this point, even the Rumble 40 by itself is better than the Bronco 40 for me. There are plenty of sounds to be had on the Rumble 40 without having to resort to modeling, and it's about 10 pounds lighter, too.

And cheaper. And looks better.

I don't know what I was thinking when I bought the Bronco as my practice amp. But I wised up and sold it for a Rumble 40.
 
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Here's the 500 combo with/without the grill cloth;

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lowsideonacurve said:
Why?
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They just don't sound good to my ears. I much prefer front slot/shelf ports. When the cab is properly designed and ports are perfect, there's nothing better. Both SWR, and a little later Genz-Benz had slot ports down to perfection. V2 Rumble 150 & 350 combos + Rumble 410 cabs had variations of SWR slot ports perfected also. The designs did vary a bit, but the the front slot ports were perfectly lovely.

Some folks say a tuned port is a tuned port. As long as it's well designed and well tuned it doesn't matter. I beg to differ. I just so happen to agree with the engineers that once worked for SWR and Genz-Benz that front slot (or shelf) porting is the the very best.
 
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