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Fender Rumble Club

Anyone ever swap out the stock 10”s in the Rumble 210 cabinet?

So here is the back story. I currently have the Rumble 800 combo. Love the sound and even more the light weight of this combo. I also have a pair of Rumble 210 cabinets which are much heavier since they do not have neodymium speakers in them like the 800.

So I would like to have at least one cabinet that is lightweight as well. For two scenarios. First when using it with the Rumble 800. Second, lately I have been using my Genz-Benz Shuttle 9.0 which is an incredible sounding amp with one of my Rumble 210 cabinets. Since I have been using that setup allot, would nice to have a cabinet that is not heavy.

So, I am thinking about getting a pair of
Eminence Basslite SC10 10" 16 ohm neodymium bass speakers. I figured these should be close to the Eminence neodymium speakers in the 800.

Any thoughts? Comments?
 
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I thought the rumble 210 cab was ported? I think the SC10 speakers are designed for sealed cabs.
Eminence does say, "this replacement speaker is optimized specifically for sealed bass cabinets," but they still publish the cab design specs for Small Vented 2 X 10 cab. In fact this design cab is slightly smaller than the stock R210 by approximately 0.5cu.ft. I didn't measure the port tubes and I haven't run the numbers how they would respond in the cab. The SC10 did look like the best choice from Eminence in 16 and 4 Ω speakers (to make an 8 Ω 2 X 10).
 
I thought the rumble 210 cab was ported? I think the SC10 speakers are designed for sealed cabs.
Eminence does say, "this replacement speaker is optimized specifically for sealed bass cabinets," but they still publish the cab design specs for Small Vented 2 X 10 cab. In fact this design cab is slightly smaller than the stock R210 by approximately 0.5cu.ft. I didn't measure the port tubes and I haven't run the numbers how they would respond in the cab. The SC10 did look like the best choice from Eminence in 16 and 4 Ω speakers (to make an 8 Ω 2 X 10).

Yea I did miss the part about them being for sealed cabinets. So maybe not a good idea. Shame Fender doesn’t sell the ones used in the 800 combo.
 
Yea I did miss the part about them being for sealed cabinets. So maybe not a good idea. Shame Fender doesn’t sell the ones used in the 800 combo.
Well, you could buy a second 800 from your nearest GC, swap the speakers with one of the 210s, then return the 800 to GC.
Wait.
Did I say that out loud?:whistle:
 
Anyone ever swap out the stock 10”s in the Rumble 210 cabinet?

So here is the back story. I currently have the Rumble 800 combo. Love the sound and even more the light weight of this combo. I also have a pair of Rumble 210 cabinets which are much heavier since they do not have neodymium speakers in them like the 800.

So I would like to have at least one cabinet that is lightweight as well. For two scenarios. First when using it with the Rumble 800. Second, lately I have been using my Genz-Benz Shuttle 9.0 which is an incredible sounding amp with one of my Rumble 210 cabinets. Since I have been using that setup allot, would nice to have a cabinet that is not heavy.

So, I am thinking about getting a pair of
Eminence Basslite SC10 10" 16 ohm neodymium bass speakers. I figured these should be close to the Eminence neodymium speakers in the 800.

Any thoughts? Comments?




Just out of curiosity, how much of a weight savings are we talking here between the stock Crematic drivers and the Neodymium drivers?

And, is it worth changing drivers in a cab that's designed for one type of driver for a different type of driver that may (or may not) be optimal for that cabinet's design just to save a couple of pounds?
 
Just out of curiosity, how much of a weight savings are we talking here between the stock Crematic drivers and the Neodymium drivers?

And, is it worth changing drivers in a cab that's designed for one type of driver for a different type of driver that may (or may not) be optimal for that cabinet's design just to save a couple of pounds?
I'd have to look it up again, but I think the difference in speaker weight, probably all because of the magnet weights, is about 7 lb.
 
Thank-you for the info.

Is that 7 lbs. savings per driver or for both drivers combined?

I thought there'd be a much bigger difference in weight between Crematic and Neo drivers than 7 lbs.
I'm going from memory by the weight difference between the R500 and R800, which are nearly identical in size I believe. So the different material in the magnets is the weight savings. Not sure the actual drivers are much different in weight as that is more computer chips, wiring, etc.
@G-Dog probably has all the details memorized for ya and will chime in soon!
 
Well, you could buy a second 800 from your nearest GC, swap the speakers with one of the 210s, then return the 800 to GC.
Wait.
Did I say that out loud?:whistle:
That's been tried before. Well, sort of. A guy dropped off his new Corvette at a 6-story parking garage on Rush St. in Chicago in the morning and when asked when he would return, he responded "at the end of the business day". [This parking facility didn't have ramps, just car elevators, so you couldn't park your car yourself.] When he picked up his 'Vette, he got about 2 blocks away, and the engine fell out onto the street.

The garage operators got busted for running a "chop shop to order". They had a list of specific engines and when a car with that engine came in and it was being left for a long enough period of time, they'd swap out the good engine for the POS engine a "customer" wanted to replace.

They had been running that business for years, because by the time a ripped off car owner figured out that their engine had been swapped out, they never tied it back to this particular garage.

Their mistake with the 'Vette? They forgot to replace the engine bolts. :roflmao:
 
I'm going from memory by the weight difference between the R500 and R800, which are nearly identical in size I believe. So the different material in the magnets is the weight savings. Not sure the actual drivers are much different in weight as that is more computer chips, wiring, etc.
@G-Dog probably has all the details memorized for ya and will chime in soon!



Just looked up the posted weights of the Rumble 500 combo with Crematic drivers and the Rumble 800 combo with Neo drivers.

The 500 = 36.5 lbs.

The 800 = 29 lbs.

Also the posted weight of the Rumble 210 cab = 39 lbs.
(Maybe it's two side handles added weight.)

I'm guessing the changing to two Neo 10's would bring the cab down "around" 32 to 33 lbs.
Saving 7'ish lbs.?
 
Just out of curiosity, how much of a weight savings are we talking here between the stock Crematic drivers and the Neodymium drivers?

And, is it worth changing drivers in a cab that's designed for one type of driver for a different type of driver that may (or may not) be optimal for that cabinet's design just to save a couple of pounds?

Thank-you for the info.

Is that 7 lbs. savings per driver or for both drivers combined?

I thought there'd be a much bigger difference in weight between Crematic and Neo drivers than 7 lbs.

Just looked up the posted weights of the Rumble 500 combo with Crematic drivers and the Rumble 800 combo with Neo drivers.

The 500 = 36.5 lbs.

The 800 = 29 lbs.

Also the posted weight of the Rumble 210 cab = 39 lbs.
(Maybe it's two side handles added weight.)

I'm guessing the changing to two Neo 10's would bring the cab down "around" 32 to 33 lbs.
Saving 7'ish lbs.?


I'm curious, shoot, just what are those Crematic[sic] drivers of which you speak? None of my searches find them.


The speakers in the Rumble 500 combo and 210 have ceramic magnets. "Ceramic magnets (also known as "Ferrite" magnets) are part of the permanent magnet family, and the lowest cost, hard magnets available today. Composed of strontium carbonate and iron oxide, ceramic (ferrite) magnets are medium in magnetic strength and can be used at fairly high temperatures."
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"Neodymium (neo) magnets, which are part of the rare earth magnet family, are popular for their extreme strength in a compact size and weight, and for their high coercive force (they are permanently magnetized for use in temperatures below 590°F)."
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I'm curious, shoot, just what are those Crematic[sic] drivers of which you speak? None of my searches find them.


The speakers in the Rumble 500 combo and 210 have ceramic magnets. "Ceramic magnets (also known as "Ferrite" magnets) are part of the permanent magnet family, and the lowest cost, hard magnets available today. Composed of strontium carbonate and iron oxide, ceramic (ferrite) magnets are medium in magnetic strength and can be used at fairly high temperatures."
"Neodymium (neo) magnets, which are part of the rare earth magnet family, are popular for their extreme strength in a compact size and weight, and for their high coercive force (they are permanently magnetized for use in temperatures below 590°F)."
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Crematic makes me think of fire, for some reason :D...probably just me...
 
I'm curious, shoot, just what are those Crematic[sic] drivers of which you speak? None of my searches find them.


The speakers in the Rumble 500 combo and 210 have ceramic magnets. "Ceramic magnets (also known as "Ferrite" magnets) are part of the permanent magnet family, and the lowest cost, hard magnets available today. Composed of strontium carbonate and iron oxide, ceramic (ferrite) magnets are medium in magnetic strength and can be used at fairly high temperatures."
"Neodymium (neo) magnets, which are part of the rare earth magnet family, are popular for their extreme strength in a compact size and weight, and for their high coercive force (they are permanently magnetized for use in temperatures below 590°F)."
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I just used whatever spell check presented as the spelling.

I think/hope everyone knows what was being discussed though. :thumbsup: