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Fender Rumble Club

Has anyone tried 3 R100c?

Scalable Rumblige?

We've seen 4 R25s connected together! See the Connecting Combos Together section of your Rumble Club Wiki page for details.

Have you got your Rumble yet, John? We have a club member number waiting for you.

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Question: If I use a preamp pedal plugged into the fx return of my 500, can I still chain another Rumble by going from the 500's fx send to the fx return of the other Rumble?

In short, I'm wondering if going into the fx return of the 500 has already bypassed its fx send.

The question there, Motifs, is where is your bass signal coming from/going to? Is your bass plugged into the 500, the pedal, or both? That could work if it's both, but the 500 would only get the pedal's signal, and the 2nd amp would only get the 500's preamp signal! :eyebrow:

Per the Rumble 40, 100, 200 & 500 block diagram, plugging into the FX Return does bypass the preamp and FX Send. That's because there's a cutoff switch in the FX Return jack that opens, cutting off the preamp signal, when a plug is inserted.

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So, almost anything other than going from one amp's FX Send to another amp's FX Return is probably going to need more cables and more complex connections. Even just adding a 3rd amp to that basic 2-amp connection needs some consideration since the FX Send of the 2nd amp has no signal from its preamp to send to a 3rd.

However, that said, connecting the 1st amp's FX Send to the 2nd amp's Input* would allow the 2nd FX Send (with its EQ) to go to the 3rd FX Return easily enough. In that way you could connect as many amps as you want.

*There's no risk of damage plugging an FX Send into another amp's Input.
 
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We've seen 4 R25s connected together! See the Connecting Combos Together section of your Rumble Club Wiki page for details.

Have you got your Rumble yet, John? We have a club member number waiting for you.

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The question there, Motifs, is where is your bass signal coming from/going to? Is your bass plugged into the 500, the pedal, or both? That could work if it's both, but the 500 would only get the pedal's signal, and the 2nd amp would only get the 500's preamp signal! :eyebrow:

Per the Rumble 40, 100, 200 & 500 block diagram, plugging into the FX Return does bypass the preamp and FX Send. That's because there's a cutoff switch in the FX Return jack that opens, cutting off the preamp signal, when a plug is inserted.


So, almost anything other than going from one amp's FX Send to another amp's FX Return is probably going to need more cables and more complex connections. Even just adding a 3rd amp to that basic 2-amp connection needs some consideration since the FX Send of the 2nd amp has no signal from its preamp to send to a 3rd.

However, that said, connecting the 1st amp's FX Send to the 2nd amp's Input* would allow the 2nd FX Send (with its EQ) to go to the 3rd FX Return easily enough. In that way you could connect as many amps as you want.

*There's no risk of damage plugging an FX Send into another amp's Input.
Very cool!
No Rumble yet.
I tend to do a lot of research (& ask a lot of questions) before making decisions.
Just buying one R800c would be more simple, but with multiple combos, you can start small for less $$.
I suspect one or two R100c would work for me (or one or two Ampeg RB112).
I need to A/B the two brand's combos.
There is still the possibility of going separates (head + cab(s)).
 
Does plugging in a headphone interrupt the signal to the speaker?

Just wondering about the signal level if you ran Combo A's headphone out into Combo C's Aux in...
Yes, using a headphone cuts out the speaker. That makes it easy to use it as a headphone-only practice amp.
Someone else pointed out you can daisy chain as many amps as you like by going FX Send -> bass-input-of-next-amp, which I had forgotten about since I only use two amps.
Just realize that doing this means you have to adjust controls on both amps to get things right, whereas going FX Send to FX Return means you only have to adjust controls on the first amp.
 
Yes, using a headphone cuts out the speaker. That makes it easy to use it as a headphone-only practice amp.
Someone else pointed out you can daisy chain as many amps as you like by going FX Send -> bass-input-of-next-amp, which I had forgotten about since I only use two amps.
Just realize that doing this means you have to adjust controls on both amps to get things right, whereas going FX Send to FX Return means you only have to adjust controls on the first amp.
The alternative would be the afore-mentioned splitter cable. Something I did not think to mention is that using one changes the impedance matching between FX Send and FX returns, loading down the FX send somewhat. This will affect both volume level and frequency response. I would hope the amps could handle this with no problem, but that's a good question for Fender.
 
Very cool!
No Rumble yet.
I tend to do a lot of research (& ask a lot of questions) before making decisions.
Just buying one R800c would be more simple, but with multiple combos, you can start small for less $$.
I suspect one or two R100c would work for me (or one or two Ampeg RB112).
I need to A/B the two brand's combos.
There is still the possibility of going separates (head + cab(s)).

Have you A/B'd their manuals yet?

 
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Yes, using a headphone cuts out the speaker. That makes it easy to use it as a headphone-only practice amp.
Someone else pointed out you can daisy chain as many amps as you like by going FX Send -> bass-input-of-next-amp, which I had forgotten about since I only use two amps.
Just realize that doing this means you have to adjust controls on both amps to get things right, whereas going FX Send to FX Return means you only have to adjust controls on the first amp.
Wow!

Very Cool!

Thanks!
 
I did a thing yesterday. I ordered a Foot Switch toggle between overdrive and a clean signal on my Rumble 500. I have a Boss BC-1X Bass Compressor pedal coming in today. I got to try out the foot switch this morning just before leaving the house for work and liked its sound. I used not to be much of a fan of overdrive on the bass, but it does add a nice effect to the sound if used tastefully. I can't wait to try the Boss compressor tonight when I get home from work.

When I return to playing out, I will add a Boss TU-3 Chromatic tuner to my pedal board. And that's probably it for effects I'll use unless something else catches my eye going forward.
 
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I just pulled them up - thank you very much!

I shall peruse the deets!

And have you A/B'd their spec's and prices?


I suggest go with R500c or R800c.

If you want both Rumble and Rocket bass sound in 1 combo , i highly recommend R800c since she has less Rumble bake-in voice and work well with Ampeg SGT-di pedal.

Sure daisy chain 2 combo ( stack ) are fun. I been try stack the R500c and R200c few weeks ago, she just sound huge.
If low end are too much , just plug the port on bottom combo like i did on Ampeg RB112 stack.
 

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Before i go with second Rb112, i been thinking get the R100c chain with my current RB112. So i can get both sound just flip the effect FX send/return. ... ... ...

"Sounds" like the best of both worlds, Yah! 😉

... ... ... But the RB112 has wider dimension than R100c , look weird when stack them up.

That would only look weird with the wide one on top. No weirdness with the wide one on the bottom. 🤗
 
What sort of preamp / DI boxes are folks using? I want good tubey clean and switchable OD. I see the JHS Punchline has compresser too.

I find the built-in OD on the Rumble sounds ok with Vintage engaged, but it's not subtle. And hard to have a properly balanced switch between clean and OD because they each need different EQing. And not using Vintage loses the compression effect.
I have a 500c. Up until recently, I've used a Sansamp Programmable DI....for about the last 10 years actually....even before my Rumble. It's been ok but there has been sooo much advancement over that time. I just switched to the Tonex1 and liking it a lot. It is not a proper DI like the big Tonex since it doesn't have the XLR out which I would want if I play direct to the PA. But I get around that with cable adaptors. Yes the Tonex has amp and cab models and yes some don't sound great throught the voicing of a Rumble, but there is infinite adjustability and onboard effects like reverb, chorus, delay, fuzz and compression which you can dial to your liking, lock in your personal model and there you go. I've never been a tone chaser...until I got this pedal. A lot of fun.
 
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I played around with the Boss BC-1X compressor through my Rumble 500 and loved the tone and compression it brought to my SR405. It definitely improved the sound quality. I also tested it along with the Fender Foot Switch, which had overdrive added in. I'll have to experiment more as time passes, but I like what these additions have brought to playing through the Rumble 500. Right now, I feel like I have all the effects I need. On top of it all, I recommend the Boss TU-3 Chromatic Tuner for the precise tuning it offers and for the ability to daisy chain its power source to other pedals on your board.

I might add more effects later if needed, but for now, everything I have has taken my Rumble 500 to a new level in sound. The only addition I have left to acquire is a 210 cabinet, which I will obtain when it is time to join a band and play out. Thank you to everyone on here for the replies and suggestions. They are greatly appreciated! I only regret that I didn't join this club sooner!
 
played around with the Boss BC-1X compressor through my Rumble 500 and loved the tone and compression it brought to my SR405. It definitely improved the sound quality. I also tested it along with the Fender Foot Switch, which had overdrive added in. ... ... ...

I'm so confused! 🤔 Would you please clarify, Figgy?
E. I don't think the Boss BC-1X compressor has overdrive, does it? 🧐
%. I know the Rumble 500, like mine for 10-½ years, has built-in (footswitchable) Overdrive. So, do you use the Fender footswitch to turn the Rumble's built-in overdrive on & off? 🤗
2. That Fender footswitch does not look like their effects pedals. 🤨 So, did you, somehow, add overdrive into it? 😲 If so, please elaborate!!​
 
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I'm so confused! 🤔 Would you please clarify, Figgy?
E. I don't think the Boss BC-1X compressor has overdrive, does it? 🧐
%. I know the Rumble 500, like mine for 10-½ years, has built-in (footswitchable) Overdrive. So, do you use the Fender footswitch to turn the Rumble's built-in overdrive on & off? 🤗
2. That Fender footswitch does not look like their effects pedals. 🤨 So, did you, somehow, add overdrive into it? 😲 If so, please elaborate!!​
No, the Boss doesn't have Overdrive. I can't explain it because I'm new to this effect, but it seems to even out the signals when it is on. It sounds better with compression than without. I followed the suggested settings from another Talkbass contributor to get the sounds I needed.

My Rumble 500 has an FTSW port on the back that allows a foot switch to be added to toggle the Overdrive on and off.

I went to the Fender brand because it was at the top of the list for compatible foot switches for the Rumble. You plug that into the amp and go. The 500 powers it.

I love the compressor and tuner, but the jury is still out on the overdrive features. I haven't experimented as much as I need to. I'm brand new to bass effects pedals and Overdrive. When I play along with Nightwish's Wacken 2013 videos, it sounds good on my end. The only time I switch Overdrive off is during the bridge on Bless The Child because it is muddy due to only bass, drums, and Floor Jansen singing at that point.

I wish I could provide more technical details, but I'm a dummy when it comes to sound and the technical aspects of sound mixing.
 
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No, the Boss doesn't have Overdrive. ... ... ... My Rumble 500 has an FTSW port on the back that allows a foot switch to be added to toggle the Overdrive on and off.

I went to the Fender brand because it was at the top of the list for compatible foot switches for the Rumble. You plug that into the amp and go. The 500 powers it. ... ... ... I wish I could provide more technical details, but I'm a dummy when it comes to sound and the technical aspects of sound mixing.

OK, I see. 😉 I believe you've got it backwards, Figgy. The footswitch is simply an On/Off switch, operated by foot, to more conveniently replace the functionality of the Overdrive button on the Rumble. It has no OD, or power, in it. As it says right on it, it can also switch between channels if the amp has 2 channels, which the Rumble doesn't.

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