Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

Hello everyone, I am here at the suggestion/request of @G-Dog who tagged me in a different post. I own a bunch of Fender gear - Player Jazz, Kingman acoustic, Rumble 100, Rumble Studio 40 and a couple of pedals - Engager Booster, The Bends and the new Bassman Reverb. If you include Squier gear, I also own a PJ bass and Telecaster.

Please add me to your members.

Regards
Peter

G'day, Peter! @Bassic_desires, you are now member #1814 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

You've got quite the arsenal there, Petey! 6-strings and 4s! That's terrific. I had to look up that Bassman Reverb, since I thought it would be for 6-string. But, from Fender's description, it appears to be intended for bass use! Cool!!! Of course, your Rumbles also qualify you for membership in the Combo Club, too.

And, for discussions about your Rumble Studio 40, please use your Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800 sub-thread, so we can keep this main Club thread clear for less technical non-modeling posts. And, for your other gear, you can browse the TalkBass Clubs & Special Interest Groups INDEX. It's even got links to the Guitar Players' Corner and Guitars!.

So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, Pete, such as your guitar and bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? We have all kinds here, so you're bound to fit right in. But, we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!​

 

[G-Dog]

I own a fender rumble 100 v3 and love it. I’m just a bedroom bass player/noodler.

However a good friend of mine who has his own band asked me how my playing is coming along and what my rig is. He told me that I might want to consider more watts for the stage.

So since then I’ve been eyeing the fender rumble 800 combo, but even though it has a lot more power it just seems too small in size for the stage. Would it be better to get the fender rumble 800 head and then some other taller cabinets for the stage?

... ... ... a little over 5 years ago, and I regret to say I overlooked giving you a membership number at that time!

If you still have a Rumble, just mention it in the Club thread and I'll be happy to correct my oversight. ... ... ...

... ... ... that is my main amp for use in the house! Love it. ... ...

Thanks. I'd love a number as I still use my Rumble 100 V3. It is really a great amp. $299 when I bought it new at GC.

Hola, B! @B-Mac, you are now member #1815 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

Although many of us already know you from your ubiquitous presence on TB, would you please introduce yourself to the others here with a little bit about your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You've already fitted in here before and we're happy to officially welcome you back.

Rumble On!​

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Not directly Rumble-related but useful for some who own Rumbles: Stupid Deal of the Day | Musician's Friend

 

[G-Dog]

Not directly Rumble-related but useful for some who own Rumbles: Stupid Deal of the Day | Musician's Friend

Hmmm ... ... , not sure this is what you intended to share, is it, Miley?

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[Miles_ONeal]

Hmmm ... ... , not sure this is what you intended to share, is it, Miley?

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It is. Some of us have multiple basses to play through our Rumbles!

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

Wild. That's not the case on the older R100 V3s (those without the pre/post switch). Is that true regardless of whether you set that switch to pre or post?

I'll have to experiment with the Pre/Post switch on both. I'm wondering what actually would get sent to the second amp from the first and whether that is dependent on the settings of the Pre/Post switch.

I know that right now the switches on both are set to "Post". I'm not sure where in the circuit chain things get passed on or bypassed and whether or not that includes the Master Volume on the sending unit.

I can live with separate volumes, but obviously accessing the Master Volume on the second is hard because it's under the top cab. I can control the overall volume of both either with my mixer or my bass, but it would be nice to just use the top's Master Volume as a true "Master" for both.

 

[MadJack]

I'll have to experiment with the Pre/Post switch on both. I'm wondering what actually would get sent to the second amp from the first and whether that is dependent on the settings of the Pre/Post switch.

I know that right now the switches on both are set to "Post". I'm not sure where in the circuit chain things get passed on or bypassed and whether or not that includes the Master Volume on the sending unit.

I can live with separate volumes, but obviously accessing the Master Volume on the second is hard because it's under the top cab. I can control the overall volume of both either with my mixer or my bass, but it would be nice to just use the top's Master Volume as a true "Master" for both.

I would think the Pre/Post switch should only affect the DI signal, and not the FX loop.

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

I would think the Pre/Post switch should only affect the DI signal, and not the FX loop.

I agree...but since the Rumble 100's without the Pre/Post switch control, when combined, the the Master Volume of first controls the volume of both, it makes me wonder where in the circuitry it might have changed that. Maybe it doesn't change anything but I can easily test it.

 

[B-Mac]

Hola, B! @B-Mac, you are now member #1815 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

Although many of us already know you from your ubiquitous presence on TB, would you please introduce yourself to the others here with a little bit about your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You've already fitted in here before and we're happy to officially welcome you back.

Rumble On!​

#1815! Wow, what a huge group of Fender Rumble aficionados!!!!

I've been called a lot of things, but I think this is a first for 'Ubiquitous'!

Well, after posting here 5 and a quarter years ago I have to say that I am still using and loving my Fender Rumble 100 V3. Granted, I am only a bedroom bass playing hack, it is really a great amp. Never had the chance to use it in a bigger room or location, so I don't know what its actual limitations are, but I love it for what I use it for.

Thanks for digging up my old post and inviting me!

 

[G-Dog]

I'll have to experiment with the Pre/Post switch on both. I'm wondering what actually would get sent to the second amp from the first and whether that is dependent on the settings of the Pre/Post switch.

I know that right now the switches on both are set to "Post". I'm not sure where in the circuit chain things get passed on or bypassed and whether or not that includes the Master Volume on the sending unit.

I can live with separate volumes, but obviously accessing the Master Volume on the second is hard because it's under the top cab. I can control the overall volume of both either with my mixer or my bass, but it would be nice to just use the top's Master Volume as a true "Master" for both.

I would think the Pre/Post switch should only affect the DI signal, and not the FX loop.

I agree...but since the Rumble 100's without the Pre/Post switch control, when combined, the the Master Volume of first controls the volume of both, it makes me wonder where in the circuitry it might have changed that. Maybe it doesn't change anything but I can easily test it.

Let's compare the locations of the Master control on the original block diagram for the R40, R100, R200 & R500 and, for lack of a diagram for the Pre/Post R100, let's use the block diagram for the R800 combo (which also has the Pre/Post):

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As you can see, the R40-500 amps have their Master volume control sorta in the middle of the pre-amp, before the FX Loop, so it controls the signal going out the FX Send (and the XLR Out). That's why the "FX Loop chained" original R100s, and R200c & R500c, have the Sending/primary/master amp totally controlling the volume, and everything else, of the Returning/secondary/slave amp.

While the R800, and presumably the Pre/Post 100 as well, have their Master volume control after the FX Loop and can't control anything going out the FX Send. So, without any volume control from the Sending/primary/master Pre/Post amp, the Returning/secondary/slave Pre/Post amp needs it's own Master volume, located between the FX Return and the power amp & speaker(s), to control it's volume.

Note: The setting of the Pre/Post switch affects only which signal goes out the XLR Out. It has no affect on the pre-amp, the FX Loop, the power amp nor the speaker(s).

Did I say all that correctly? Questions?

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

Let's compare the locations of the Master control on the original block diagram for the R40, R100, R200 & R500 and, for lack of a diagram for the Pre/Post R100, let's use the block diagram for the R800 combo (which also has the Pre/Post):

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As you can see, the R40-500 amps have their Master volume control sorta in the middle of the pre-amp, before the FX Loop, so it controls the signal going out the FX Send (and the XLR Out). That's why the "FX Loop chained" original R100s, and R200c & R500c, have the Sending/primary/master amp totally controlling the volume, and everything else, of the Returning/secondary/slave amp.

While the R800, and presumably the Pre/Post 100 as well, have their Master volume control after the FX Loop and can't control anything going out the FX Send. So, without any volume control from the Sending/primary/master Pre/Post amp, the Returning/secondary/slave Pre/Post amp needs it's own Master volume, located between the FX Return and the power amp & speaker(s), to control it's volume.

Note: The setting of the Pre/Post switch affects only which signal goes out the XLR Out. It has no affect on the pre-amp, the FX Loop, the power amp nor the speaker(s).

Did I say all that correctly? Questions?

Makes sense. I'm still going to verify to be sure. I mean I have two combos and it's easy to check in actual usage.

 

[G-Dog]

#1815! Wow, what a huge group of Fender Rumble aficionados!!!!

I've been called a lot of things, but I think this is a first for 'Ubiquitous'! ... ...

Maybe you only seem to be everywhere on TB to me since we monitor a lot of the same threads.

Well, after posting here 5 and a quarter years ago I have to say that I am still using and loving my Fender Rumble 100 V3. Granted, I am only a bedroom bass playing hack, it is really a great amp. Never had the chance to use it in a bigger room or location, so I don't know what its actual limitations are, but I love it for what I use it for.

Thanks for digging up my old post and inviting me!

Good to have you with us! Keep on Rumbling!

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Let's compare the locations of the Master control on the original block diagram for the R40, R100, R200 & R500 and, for lack of a diagram for the Pre/Post R100, let's use the block diagram for the R800 combo (which also has the Pre/Post):

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As you can see, the R40-500 amps have their Master volume control sorta in the middle of the pre-amp, before the FX Loop, so it controls the signal going out the FX Send (and the XLR Out). That's why the "FX Loop chained" original R100s, and R200c & R500c, have the Sending/primary/master amp totally controlling the volume, and everything else, of the Returning/secondary/slave amp.

While the R800, and presumably the Pre/Post 100 as well, have their Master volume control after the FX Loop and can't control anything going out the FX Send. So, without any volume control from the Sending/primary/master Pre/Post amp, the Returning/secondary/slave Pre/Post amp needs it's own Master volume, located between the FX Return and the power amp & speaker(s), to control it's volume.

Note: The setting of the Pre/Post switch affects only which signal goes out the XLR Out. It has no affect on the pre-amp, the FX Loop, the power amp nor the speaker(s).

Did I say all that correctly? Questions?

That seems kinda weird to me, but thanks for checking.

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

I just checked and verified...

The Pre/Post switch on either combo has absolutely no control over the Master Volume(s).

On my two identical Rumble 100's with the Pre/Post switches, each amp must use it's own Master Volume control.

While accessing the bottom combo's Master Volume is not convenient there may be a bright side. Since the bottom combo is further away from our ears, one could turn the bottom's Volume up a bit more to balance with the top's volume.

As it is, in my setup (Zoom + 4 channel mixer), I can use my mixer's Main Out control for the Master Volume for both combos once their volumes are set.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I just checked and verified...

The Pre/Post switch on either combo has absolutely no control over the Master Volume(s).

On my two identical Rumble 100's with the Pre/Post switches, each amp must use it's own Master Volume control.

While accessing the bottom combo's Master Volume is not convenient there may be a bright side. Since the bottom combo is further away from our ears, one could turn the bottoms Volume up a bit more to balance.

As it is, in my setup (Zoom + 4 channel mixer), I can use my mixer's Main Out control for the Master Volume for both combos once their volumes are set.

I was going to suggest try running them both wide open and control volume with whatever is just before the amps in the signal chain!

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

I currently have the Master Volume on both at about 10 o'clock, which is already intolerably LOUD.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I currently have the Master Volume on both at about 10 o'clock, which is already intolerable LOUD.

Which is why I said control the volume with whatever precedes the amp - in this case, I believe it is your mixer? It would be a bit noisier that way but you wouldn't have to adjust the amp volumes. But it sounds like you already have it working, so ...

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

Which is why I said control the volume with whatever precedes the amp - in this case, I believe it is your mixer? It would be a bit noisier that way but you wouldn't have to adjust the amp volumes. But it sounds like you already have it working, so ...

This is what drives my sound and it's velcroed to the top of my Rumble Rig.

My Xenyx mixer's Main Out control is what allows me to control the volume overall. I just set my Rumble's Master Volumes to an insane level (which is still only 10 o'clock) and then I can adjust the overall volume from my mixer...

I don't have any extraneous noise from this setup. When I'm playing only the first light on the output level lights up so I'm about as far as clipping the signal (gain-wise) as I could possibly get.

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

Another benefit to having two Rumble 100's as a modular stacking rig, is that they can also sit side by side which makes a great endtable next to my recliner in the living room.

 

[analogcabin]

Where would be the best spot to purchase (online) a Rumble 100 with the pre/post switch?

Thanks