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Big Hoss
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Been working with the 500 more lately doing some recording XLR out to the board, and into the PC via the audio interface.
Results so far are mixed, no fault of the Rumbles, but more learning curve for me.
I am leaving the cab disconnected, and running just the Rumble 500 left on top of the 210.
Been working on a bunch of old 70's / 80's stuff, including the current tune that is working out well for the amp but not so much my fingers... Pretenders Brass in Pocket. My setup thus far.
Instrument = SX Ursa 1 P style bass. D'Addario EXL170 46-100 strings. Tone knob rolled on about 10%
Effects = Bypassed / off. Not using any effects.
Amp settings = Gain Assuming 6:00 to 6:00 rotation, at about 9:00. Vintage engaged, EQ flat, master to suitable level.
Some tweakign of the mixer settings to get it pulled in without clipping, and voila!
Tone is spot on for every note I succesfully hit, and mute. Boy do I need to remember to mute when I am supposed to, and let ring when I am supposed to!
Some days my fingers just refuse to cooperate with what my brain is telling them to do!
Results so far are mixed, no fault of the Rumbles, but more learning curve for me.
I am leaving the cab disconnected, and running just the Rumble 500 left on top of the 210.
Been working on a bunch of old 70's / 80's stuff, including the current tune that is working out well for the amp but not so much my fingers... Pretenders Brass in Pocket. My setup thus far.
Instrument = SX Ursa 1 P style bass. D'Addario EXL170 46-100 strings. Tone knob rolled on about 10%
Effects = Bypassed / off. Not using any effects.
Amp settings = Gain Assuming 6:00 to 6:00 rotation, at about 9:00. Vintage engaged, EQ flat, master to suitable level.
Some tweakign of the mixer settings to get it pulled in without clipping, and voila!
Tone is spot on for every note I succesfully hit, and mute. Boy do I need to remember to mute when I am supposed to, and let ring when I am supposed to!
Some days my fingers just refuse to cooperate with what my brain is telling them to do!
Preach it, Brother!
in my brain I sound like Jaco, Stanley Clarke, Entwistle and Bootsy Collins all on their best days! What comes from my fingers needs improvement...
You have to use a pick to get that tone and sound correct. Also love Chaingang and Night In My Veins.
Big Hoss
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Do tell... I am trying to play it like this guy...
No pick, just fingers.
I get each note at a time pretty close, but the transitions are killing me.
But listen closely to the original, @Big Hoss, it's played with a pick. That's the only way to get the proper feel; tone, and attack.
Big Hoss
Up note, down note, blue note, brown note...
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@Linnin I don't see a pick anywhere near that P bass! What I do see is an early 50s style p bass and a heck of an aggressive attack...
If you listen to the original studio recording, it is most definitely picked no doubt about it.They're miming in that clip. Sounds like a Ric to me. Edged on by him using one in the original clip
They're miming in that clip. Sounds like a Ric to me. Edged on by him using one in the original clip
Definitely. Pete Farndon stops to remove his gum at about 0:37,and the bassline continues
Or possibly an early Kramer with aluminum neck. They came stock with DiMarzio pickups. They could be super aggressive like a Rickenbacker. I was forced to sell mine during one of many lifequakes I've survived. At any rate it is not the Telecaster bass with the Seth Lover "mud-bucker" pickup as seen in the video. Those things were horrible! Every bit as bad sounding as the Gibson EB-O.
1970 something CBS Fender Telecastser bass with a Seth Lover designed "mud-bucker" pickup.
also no Kramer or Rickenbacker either, yet in the studio for the original recording there was
When you listen to the original studio recording the bass screams several things to the listener. First and foremost: 1) "I'm being picked!" 2) I am not a Fender 3) or a Gibson; Epiphone, Danelectro, etc.... 4) I am most likely a Rickenbacker or a Kramer.
Here he is using a Rick in 1980, so definitely could be.
Still fingers though, but heavy attack as noted, so maybe just heavy callouses, lol. Never know what's used in the studio though. Might be a finger player but used a pick to get the sound he wanted.
Though I watched a half dozen videos, and he uses his fingers in every one.
But dang. That is a killer bass sound, just about my ideal.
Still fingers though, but heavy attack as noted, so maybe just heavy callouses, lol. Never know what's used in the studio though. Might be a finger player but used a pick to get the sound he wanted.
Though I watched a half dozen videos, and he uses his fingers in every one.
But dang. That is a killer bass sound, just about my ideal.
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True, and I've also seen photos of him playing a P/J Kramer with the Pretenders also. In one shot it sure looks like he's playing with a pick. Playing bass with a pick is often preferred in a studio for evenness of attack and crispness of tone and all important evenness of volume level.
Geddy Lee has a thumb and fingers technique that sounds just like a pick. I can come close just not as good. You have to have your fingernails the absolutely perfect length too in order to get the finger tip pluck along with the the finger nail pick a nanosecond apart. The result is killer attack & tone as we all know.
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Yes, it is! I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Pete Farndon didn't even use an amp in the studio, but rather just a high grade tube microphone pre-amp. Just like Motown used an in house built tube instrument pre-amp.
I rocked a Kramer (right along with my '76 Precision) through an all tube Fender Studio Bass throughout the 1980's both in small bars and small cheap recording studios. It was all analog tape then. The very first rack mount digital delays were just coming out about that time, and man were they expensive! With Dean Markley Blue Steels on my Kramer, I could come very close to Pete Farndon's Pretenders sound. It was killer. Yes, I used a pick.
And let me tell you, man did the g-wankers ever HATE it! LOL!
Here's Pete using his Ric in the 'Talk Of The Town' video -
I'm quite curious if he ever recorded with it. Enjoying these posts, as I've been listening to their old debut recently - great bass tone throughout that entire record.
I'm quite curious if he ever recorded with it. Enjoying these posts, as I've been listening to their old debut recently - great bass tone throughout that entire record.
@Big Hoss
I can get that tone pretty close by playing through my Rumble V3 and using the Old School Tone I posted in the Tone Pool. You might want to raise the High Mid and Treble a little? I am using a Fender Jazz wired series. That is the tone I like also where the bass has its place and the guitar has its place and they each let the other shine. Cool song! I'd forgotten about it.
I can get that tone pretty close by playing through my Rumble V3 and using the Old School Tone I posted in the Tone Pool. You might want to raise the High Mid and Treble a little? I am using a Fender Jazz wired series. That is the tone I like also where the bass has its place and the guitar has its place and they each let the other shine. Cool song! I'd forgotten about it.
Here some pictures of the Rumble V3 500 combo, speaker and inner side.
Apparently, there is some lining at the back, not the other sides.
Apparently, there is some lining at the back, not the other sides.
