Fender Rumble Club

[Indiedog]

I use these 3' Pro-Co's with Nutrick 1/4" male plugs to connect my Rumble 350 head to my Rumble 112's. Very well made & heavy duty. They would work just as well for your Rumble 115 or any other cabinet. Pro Co S12-3 TS-TS Speaker Cable - 3'

Looks like a great cable. Thank you, Doctor L!

 

[GregT]

Yep, speaker cables are definitely unbalanced!

 

[GregT]

I use a 500 combo in a classic rock band, sometimes with a 210 extension cabinet. Generally really happy with the sound, vintage button engaged. But the sound is generally a bit too "boomy" with the vintage engaged....may go back to it being off, and more volume & oomph on the bass. Has anybody else sensed this regarding the Vintage button??

I am starting to enjoy more of a low midrange tone lately which would be with the vintage button disengaged. I still really like what happens when you push the vintage button though. Last night I played with the vintage OFF. Next time it might be ON? I like options and the Rumbles give you plenty of options.

You can also back off the bass control with the vintage ON for great results.

 

[WRM]

Matched pair of 4x10s... oh no!, and a 500 head. arrrghhhhh! GAS Pain coming on.
Anybody sporting this rig?

R500 + 2X410 keeps the big smile on my face, and don't forget to bring your earplugs!

Just thought I'd share a sample of a 500 combo in action.
Conditions: Outdoors, 3 guitars, 1 drummer
Recording: My wife's phone from the middle of the street
Gear: MIA Standard J, direct to Rumble 500 v3
No FOH support.

Sounds great! Love me some ARS. After your reminder, I just added one to my "JamMan" ("Homesick").

TB causes many forms of GAS, and is responsible for my buying a DigiTech "JamMan Stereo" pedal a couple weeks ago. I added the 32GB card for additional memory, and have been having a blast adding stuff to the library over the last week or so. I'm using the R40 as the "monitor" and it's incredible how much the bass comes through that amp. Really digging this set-up.

Cheers,

 

[Linnin]

R500 + 2X410 keeps the big smile on my face, and don't forget to bring your earplugs!

@WRM , Is that the loudest bass rig you've ever played through?

 

[WRM]

@WRM , Is that the loudest bass rig you've ever played through?

• Indubitably!

 

[Linnin]

I am starting to enjoy more of a low midrange tone lately

That's the frequency neighborhood where all the real grunt and punch live. I use a Whirlwind Bass Ten graphic and like to boost 160 Hz about 3 dB. My tone sculpture looks nothing like the quintessential 'smiley-face' in this stock photo.

 

[crucislancer]

I use a 500 combo in a classic rock band, sometimes with a 210 extension cabinet. Generally really happy with the sound, vintage button engaged. But the sound is generally a bit too "boomy" with the vintage engaged....may go back to it being off, and more volume & oomph on the bass. Has anybody else sensed this regarding the Vintage button??

I have the same set up, and there are times that I use the vintage button and other times I don’t. Monday night at rehearsal, I had it disengaged while using my Nate Mendel P, but the previous rehearsal I had it engaged with my Jazz bass. I’ve done the reverse as well.

You can also back off the bass control with the vintage ON for great results.

I do this, too.

 

[Linnin]

There seems to be digital echo on my imagery tonight.

 

[bdplaid]

Balanced vs unbalanced: a suggestion that someone needs to bone up on their tech:
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Balanced vs unbalanced ALWAYS refers to a line-level signal, not a speaker-level signal. these are two entirely different things; voltages, impedences, etc are different, etc. Think of line-level as before the amp; speaker-level as after the amp. line-level wiring is very thin, usually +- 22 AWG. Speaker level is (should be) twisted copper of 16 AWG or greater. 14 and 12 AWG are not uncommon and allow for greater power . No such thing as balanced speaker cabling. You always want to use a speaker cable to connect a speaker cabinet. If you use a guitar cable (which is an unbalanced line-level cable) you can fry the amp from heat build-up.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

Yeah, the impedance of an instrument cable is too much for an amp to pump power through.

 

[bdplaid]

Many speakers and subs require a balanced cable. (I use balanced cables for my monitor speakers, for my PA speakers, and for my PA Sub.)
Some speakers can handle either. I didn't know what was required for the extension cabs.

No. you are confusing active speakers with passive.

 

[GregT]

Balanced or Unbalanced.....
Please see the part: Speaker Cables:
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It is a term people use. Right or wrong, we use it.

Mostly, I just always want to make sure people realize there is a difference between an instrument cable and a speaker cable.

 

[WRM]

Inst/Spkr cables two different animals - smallish signal wire vs. power cable. Let's use R500 and one 8 Ohm cab: P=VI=I*IR so 350W = 8 Ohms (I*I), so I is 6.6 Amps. Not going to carry that load with a 22 ga Instrument cable.

I run 1/4" at head to Speakons at Cabs, 14 ga. (Linnin's are 12 ga).

Drop D Tuner has just been installed on my P Bass Special; the first time I tried one, and I'm liking it - ready for "Moby Dick" with a flip of the lever.

Cheers,

 

[GaryLC]

Balanced vs unbalanced: a suggestion that someone needs to bone up on their tech:
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Balanced vs unbalanced ALWAYS refers to a line-level signal, not a speaker-level signal. these are two entirely different things; voltages, impedences, etc are different, etc. Think of line-level as before the amp; speaker-level as after the amp. line-level wiring is very thin, usually +- 22 AWG. Speaker level is (should be) twisted copper of 16 AWG or greater. 14 and 12 AWG are not uncommon and allow for greater power . No such thing as balanced speaker cabling. You always want to use a speaker cable to connect a speaker cabinet. If you use a guitar cable (which is an unbalanced line-level cable) you can fry the amp from heat build-up.

I'm not a techie, but always knew this! Just didn't know that terminology......NEVER use a guitar cable for a speaker cable....I thought we all knew this!!!

 

[Killed_by_Death]

No. I saw a guy at GC just last week try to use an instrument cable for a speaker cable.
Lucky for GC, it wouldn't work, because the SpeakON he was trying to plug it into was not "Combo".

 

[bdplaid]

I'm not a techie, but always knew this! Just didn't know that terminology......NEVER use a guitar cable for a speaker cable....I thought we all knew this!!!

well, someone asked about using a balanced vs unbalanced cable to connect a passive speaker, so...

 

[GregT]

I have a Rumble 200 combo, and I have a short speaker cable I have saved for a lot of years. I always figured I would use it again someday. My only problem is not having the Rumble extension cab.

 

[WRM]

No. I saw a guy at GC just last week try to use an instrument cable for a speaker cable.
Lucky for GC, it wouldn't work, because the SpeakON he was trying to plug it into was not "Combo".

Not surprised - they look the same (from far away) and use identical terminals. This is asking for trouble. Must look at the cable markings - at least 14ga for speaker cable. Above example is RMS so figure 1.4X for peak. 14 ga generally considered 15A, 12 ga handles 20A.

In example perspective, V = IR = 6.6A X 8Ohm ~ 50+ V. Not something to play with. Fender uses a boost/carrier voltage above that ground, so actual potential is higher (and don't ground your speaker cable "negative"!).

Cheers,

 

[blmeier7]

Since we're on the topic...

Here's a place that I've ordered speaker cables from before and thought they did a great job: Invalid Link Removed

They are closed until the first of the year but worth checking out if you want a quality speaker cable custom made.

I bought an instrument cable and a couple of speaker cables from them several years ago and they are top quality. No affiliation, just putting the resource out there in case anyone is interested.