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Like I said, it is only a "want". I really don't need more than the 200 combo for now. Just like to dream sometimes. I play tonight and I will take my 100 and barely turn it up.Pfffft!Get two Rumble 115 cabinets and a Rumble 500 head! Oh My!
I thought about that while I was there today. It would take some getting used to, having the controls on the side and toward the back if I put the 200 on its side. I was mostly just having fun on my day off. Our local Mom and Pop store has a great selection or Rumble stuff. And an impressive bass section!!
Edit: I didn't actually put the 200 on its side on top of the 1x15 because I never would want to put a scratch on someone's brand new Rumble. Or any other new gear for that matter.
Rumble 100 tonight on top of the Auralex Gramma just kicked it. I got to play a little rockabilly with one of the jammers and it was so much fun. Needed a little more modern sound later so I pushed all three buttons in. I almost took the 200, but I knew the 100 was more than enough.
We're talking about Fender making a 212... so from my personal idiot department...
I think I'd like one of those myself, although for the life of me I can't say how it would be different from my two 112s. I was thinking I wanted one so bad I was starting to plan out a new cab to make. However, the one I wanted was different; it has an angled top speaker, like the Marshall slant 412. Ok, cool.
In doing the pre-build research, I run across an article here on TB about doing just such a thing. Quite a good discussion about it, but then it dawns on me (after reading Bill Fitzmaurice's comments on that speaker thread), why not just angle back the top speaker? Duh. Can't believe that didn't occur to me.
I did just that last night. I liked it. Still had the bottom and punch, only I could hear the definition better. I'm sure it messes with the phasing of the cab "coupling," but so what, if it sounds good that's for me.
So in sum, just sharing my dumbness with the group. Thanks to TB and Bill in particular.
I think I'd like one of those myself, although for the life of me I can't say how it would be different from my two 112s. I was thinking I wanted one so bad I was starting to plan out a new cab to make. However, the one I wanted was different; it has an angled top speaker, like the Marshall slant 412. Ok, cool.
In doing the pre-build research, I run across an article here on TB about doing just such a thing. Quite a good discussion about it, but then it dawns on me (after reading Bill Fitzmaurice's comments on that speaker thread), why not just angle back the top speaker? Duh. Can't believe that didn't occur to me.
I did just that last night. I liked it. Still had the bottom and punch, only I could hear the definition better. I'm sure it messes with the phasing of the cab "coupling," but so what, if it sounds good that's for me.
So in sum, just sharing my dumbness with the group. Thanks to TB and Bill in particular.
Big Hoss
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Well, I can see one advantage of a 212 vs 2 12s. Specifically say you opted for 8 ohm cabs, you could run 2 212 cabs to get 4 ohms, or you could run 2 112 cabs to get 4 ohms. So in theory, you could get 4 12" speakers going at once for your 4 ohm load... Just a thought....
Just an interesting incident to report. I was on the phone last night with a guy from a band I am trying to get an audition with. He asked me about equipment. He was impressed when I told him my #1 bass is a P Select. Then I was about to tell him I use a Rumble 500, expecting I would get a negative response. He was happy to hear it. He said their last bass player used one and the band loved the way in sounds. Then, he said, those things are loud. Think I will be hearing back soon.
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I wouldn't expect to hear anything negative about the Rumbles from any BL that isn't a Boutique or nothing a$$hat. They are out there, lots of guys using them, and I am seeing more and more of them out there in use other than mine, so I know I am not alone in my local scene with the Rumble...
I did talk with one guy that simply put, defined "pro gear" as an MIA P bass, an Ampeg SVT head and 810 cab.
I did talk with one guy that simply put, defined "pro gear" as an MIA P bass, an Ampeg SVT head and 810 cab.
Man, we just auditioned a rhythm guitarist who "is also a bassist." He looked at my Rumble rig and told me that he had a "1200 dollar Genz blah blah blah." He shut up once he heard me play. On a side note, I get a bit of an attitude when guitarists claim to be awesome bassists. I wanted to hand him my bass and tell him to play, but... you know... germs and stuff.
There are bass players, and there are bass owners.
I can see both sides for sure, I've had guys show up claiming to have pro gear and it's nothing but junk. However, if I can listen to something and it sounds/performs like pro gear, then I would gladly concede their assertion regarding the gear. Ended up being very surprised by the Rumble gear, have to say I'm really torn between them and some other amps at this point.
I can tell that I'll get some scoffers from time to time or folks insisting I use their "real" bass amps. If I was that surprised by them, I have a feeling all we'll need to do is play and they'll shut up lol.
The same reason that 4-ohms cabs sporting 2x10s or 4x10s exist, you're going for more cone space. I'm no sound engineer, but typically when you add more speakers you'll get better response than with fewer of that same speaker. I'm imagining the low end on a Rumble 2x12 cab would be pretty beastly, even more so with two of those 2x12 cabs being used together. If the 4x10 Rumble is $399, I'm guessing the 2x12 would be $300-$350? Yeesh I need to stop thinking about this...it's making me sad that it doesn't actually exist lol. I'd buy a Rumble 500 and those cabs in a heartbeat.
I can tell that I'll get some scoffers from time to time or folks insisting I use their "real" bass amps. If I was that surprised by them, I have a feeling all we'll need to do is play and they'll shut up lol.
The same reason that 4-ohms cabs sporting 2x10s or 4x10s exist, you're going for more cone space. I'm no sound engineer, but typically when you add more speakers you'll get better response than with fewer of that same speaker. I'm imagining the low end on a Rumble 2x12 cab would be pretty beastly, even more so with two of those 2x12 cabs being used together. If the 4x10 Rumble is $399, I'm guessing the 2x12 would be $300-$350? Yeesh I need to stop thinking about this...it's making me sad that it doesn't actually exist lol. I'd buy a Rumble 500 and those cabs in a heartbeat.
Maybe, but I think I'd want a 4ohm 212. I'd want the full wattage going into the single cab to keep it small. If I need bigger I'd put on another head. Or use a power amp. But the convenience and portability of single cabs cannot be denied. I carried one last night with one hand. and it wasn't heavy.
True that. Works for other instruments, too. I own two fiddles. All I can do is scare the crap out of the cats.
The dog just looks annoyed and goes to another room.
I remember doing that about hi-fi equipment when I was a teenager. Some guys never grow out of it.
Two 112 cabs is 4 ohms and the same cone area. what would be different is the cab's effect on things, as it would be larger. Depends how they tune it, but having a large cab means they have more latitude in tuning. Possible could be deeper, but I'm not sure I'd want that. One of the things I like about the 112s is how they roll off the extreme low end, which makes them sound tight but retaining punch and bark.
Also, two 112s means I can split the location of them if I ever want to run stereo. If you've never run a stereo chorus and separated the cabs a bit and then stood in the sweet spot, you have not lived. Big, all-encompassing bass. Like headphones, but bigger and vibrating everything.
edit: and, a 112 is $300, so I'd expect a possible 212 (not in existence) to cost at least $399, probably more like $449 or $499.
Sorry, I meant to say "8-ohm" instead of "4-ohm". My idea (expressed without drinking enough coffee yet) is that I could run a 4x12 rig off the Rumble head if they made 8-ohm 2x12 cabs.
