• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Fender Rumble Club

#9,282
Ok, silly question maybe and I'm not considering doing it really - just want to know for understandings sake.
I have a V1 Rumble 15. It has a headphone jack - why should I not plug a speaker cable into that Jack and power an external speaker cab from that? (I assume that I can do it - it physically fits etc)
15 watts seems awful few to put through a 410 for example, but is it a viable backup in case of a disaster befalling the head that usually drives that cab ?
 
#9,284
RedVee said:
I have a V1 Rumble 15. It has a headphone jack - why should I not plug a speaker cable into that Jack and power an external speaker cab from that? (I assume that I can do it - it physically fits etc)
15 watts seems awful few to put through a 410 for example, but is it a viable backup in case of a disaster befalling the head that usually drives that cab ?
Click to expand...

The headphone jack puts out only a fraction of the power-amp section. Something like 1/4 watt. The headphone jack is taken before the signal ever gets to the power amp.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RedVee
#9,287
Lionel Albert said:
If they are deaf, I can hear it, the drummer of the band, can't hear the bass properly when I turn the tone control down, when I turn the volume up he hears something strange, he loves treble, without treble, he cannot hear.
That's the problem, sometimes when you play with people who have played too much loud all along their career.
Click to expand...

It has more to do with them wanting a heavier overall sound. We just got some new PA speakers that we really needed, so I don't have to worry about keep my amp on such a short leash :)
 
#9,288
btmpancake said:
That's what I was thinking until I tried the 210 cab and to my taste the 210 sounded better than the 115 with my 200c;to me.(stacked).
Click to expand...
Here is where I get totally confused with the theory of the "coupling effect". Because I hear a lot of comments like these, that the 210 cab sounds best with the 200 combo, or even that the 112 cab sounds best with the both the 200 or 500 combo. I think we all hear things different, so it's ALL good!!!!! :)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Shooz, btmpancake and GregT
#9,290
GregT said:
Does the coupling effect work best (or at all) with identical speakers?
Click to expand...
The coupling effect is between identical stacked speakers only. Even if they are in the same cabinet. This is especially audible in the lower frequencies, and can exaggerate 'boominess'.

Then there is 'floor coupling effect' between the the speaker cabinet/combo and the floor. For the most part this is usually undesirable, and is the reason I always decouple using an Auralex GRAMMA, or raising off the floor with a suitable amp stand.

Clear as mud? Don't forget to consider the Allison Effect in the acoustics of the room you're playing. Can we say EQ challenged? ;)
 
  • Like
Reactions: GregT, GaryLC, crucislancer and 1 other person
#9,291
Linnin said:
The coupling effect is between identical stacked speakers only. Even if they are in the same cabinet. This is especially audible in the lower frequencies, and can exaggerate 'boominess'.
Click to expand...
That might be why some members are suggesting a 2x10 cab with the 200 Combo. When you hear it with your own ears, the 10's wouldn't have the coupling effect and add more 15 goodness and possible boominess; they would still add the personality of 10's to the overall tone with their clarity and punch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: btmpancake and Linnin
#9,292
GregT said:
That might be why some members are suggesting a 2x10 cab with the 200 Combo. When you hear it with your own ears, the 10's wouldn't have the coupling effect and add more 15 goodness and possible boominess; they would still add the personality of 10's to the overall tone with their clarity and punch.
Click to expand...
It's all about what is good; right, and beautiful to you. So whatever pleases your sense of tonal joy is what is right for you. Duke Ellington said, "If it sounds good, it is good.".

The twin tens within the Rumble 210 cabinet have coupling effect with themselves, and even moreso when stacked with a Rumble 500 combo or another Rumble 210 cabinet.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dbbltime and GregT
#9,297
MovingPitchers said:
Something with more power. I'm not well educated in amps and heads and cabs and what goes well with what, so I'm sticking to the Rumble. Maybe the 100 will do the job. 200 might be overkill
Click to expand...

I recommend the 500 amp. It's all purpose, imo. You can always turn down, but not quite turn up. Better to have too much than too little, because there is never too much!
 
  • Like
Reactions: GaryLC
#9,299
MovingPitchers said:
Something with more power. I'm not well educated in amps and heads and cabs and what goes well with what, so I'm sticking to the Rumble. Maybe the 100 will do the job. 200 might be overkill
Click to expand...

I use the 40 at church and use the line out to the pa. I mainly just use the 40 as a monitor plenty loud. I have the 500 combo that would be overkill. I agree with Linnin keep the 40 and get the 200 if you feel you need more. My piano player would have a cow if I brought something bigger and louder.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Shooz and GregT

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back