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Fender Rumble Club

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Regarding the headphone jack (which I use to learn tunes quite a bit), if you want to test/set your DI settings, the signal is still on when you have phones plugged in. I plug in a set of phones and then XLR into a small mixer and use the phones from that to get some tones. It is not really different than just using headphones, but you can hear how changes will be sent to FOH.

2 clicks of volume for example may help you on stage, but it is not a huge difference in the signal sent. That's why I don't worry too much about post-DI. I do wish master volume was separate like say my Ampeg PF-800, but I can live with it until V4 is out. :D
 
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I got a chance to try my v3 100 since adding the bracing and plugging the ports. I also tilted it back a bit. Wow!! It defitnitely exceeds my expectations for how good a lightweight combo can sound. Sounded great with my LB-100 and Am Std Jazz. I was able to get some nice tones running my Tone Hammer DI or American Sound in front of it too. If you're thinking of bracing, insulating, and/or port plugging, it was well worth it IMHO. I'm considering making ajustable port plugs for it, so I can dial in depending on what room I'm in. I'm looking forward to trying it with the band now.
 
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Japheth M said:
I got a chance to try my v3 100 since adding the bracing and plugging the ports. I also tilted it back a bit. Wow!! It defitnitely exceeds my expectations for how good a lightweight combo can sound. Sounded great with my LB-100 and Am Std Jazz. I was able to get some nice tones running my Tone Hammer DI or American Sound in front of it too. If you're thinking of bracing, insulating, and/or port plugging, it was well worth it IMHO. I'm considering making ajustable port plugs for it, so I can dial in depending on what room I'm in. I'm looking forward to trying it with the band now.
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Great you improved your R100 V3, I did line mine with foam but did not try the port plugs.

About port plugging: I think you might try foam plugs like they use for hi-fi speakers, easy to install and remove, like this - although you may insert one more neatly ;): http://www.audioholics.com/tower-sp...video/ScreenShot20130403at6.07.51AM.png/image
With a sheet of thick foam, a glass (or whatever) just a bit bigger than the port as a cutting guide and a knife you easily create your own foam plugs.

They won't be adjustable, not sure how that would work.
As far as I know, a cabinet is either sealed or ported, according to calculations by the manufacturer.
It might be worth trying out though.
 
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eric_B said:
As far as I know, a cabinet is either sealed or ported,
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^^^ This is correct ^^^ A sealed cabinet is called 'Acoustic Suspension' I've also heard them called infinite baffle. It's only advantage is sonic accuracy & response. Cabinet design is critical. Apparently the Rumble 100 is so well designed you can go either way.

A ported cabinet is a bass reflex design, and can be sonically tailored by the tuning of the ports to the cabinet & woofer combination. This design is popular in that it is louder and moves more air. Ideally the only thing moving in and out of the port(s) is air - not sound. All the sound should be coming from the cone(s) of the woofer(s). A bass reflex design can also reach lower frequencies more easily & evenly. Ports come in all kinds of shapes and sizes as air doesn't care. There are front ports (most common) rear ports (found mostly in very compact cabinets) and slot or shelf ports (reference V2 Rumble 75; 150, 350, and 410 cab).
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Wow! Just WOW!!!!!!!

After all this talk about plugging the ports on the Rumble 100, I had to try it. It always sits right next to me here at home. Here's my take on it: I find the 100 to be a little bass heavy in a live situation. My 200 sounds a little more modern and it cuts through better. I just put socks in the ports just to see what the buzz was all about lately. Man, this thing sounds even better than it did, and way better than expected. Push in the vintage button and watch out! The vintage button might be usable now on stage. The amp has more clarity and definition. My Precision now has the "real" Precision tone I love. Midrange that will cut through and conquer. (Can you tell I am excited?) My Rumble 100 has just gone to a different level.

This might not be the answer for all of the Rumble 100 owners, but it is such an easy experiment, it is worth trying. I may decide that I don't like it, in time. It is that different! If you have a Rumble 100, it is a fun and easy thing to try.
 
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GregT said:
I just put socks in the ports just to see what the buzz was all about lately.
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OK, so there is an in between, the sox reflex
DerekW said:
Is there any concern that plugging the ports may cause the speaker to move too much? Causing damage to the cone.
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I wouldn't think so. Cone movement is more a function of wattage input + frequency demands.
 
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DerekW said:
Is there any concern that plugging the ports may cause the speaker to move too much? Causing damage to the cone.

I know I have a large home theatre subwoofer that you can plug the ports to get a lower response (down to 20hz, I believe) but it's designed for that.
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Although I don't know the absolute answer, I don't ever play that loud so I am not concerned too much. Still, I might push it pretty hard at times on stage. I do believe that a sealed cab allows the cone to move less because of a vacuum/pressure. When the speaker moves in a sealed cab, it has pressure and vacuum as it moves. Sealing it with foam shouldn't actually be a solid seal.

Maybe I should suggest people try it at their own risk???:) I feel the Rumble 100's speaker is pretty stout though. Today was my first try. I will have to see if I continue to like it.
 
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Scott Truesdell said:
Seeing as how using the headphones jack cuts the signal to the internal power amp, I don't think this gets you to where you want to go: bi-amping.
Doing this backward -- driving the R40 AUX-IN from an EFFECTS SEND -- might work although it looks like that path might bypass the SPEAKER CAB SIM wizardry. A lot of what makes a Rumble a Rumble lies secreted away in that black-box SPEAKER CAB SIM.
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It seems the only possibility to connect two R40s is from line out to aux in (left or right). The impedance of line out is 3.3Kohm and aux in is 10Kohm. Will it work? Before buying another R40 I'm going to try the setup with 500H and R40.
 
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eudaimonia said:
Will it work?
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I don't think so. But this will
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Just use a mic cable from the XLR out into the transformer and then into the instrument input jack of your second amp. In the 'old days' we used to do this all the time to plug a lo-Z mic into a guitar amp for use as a vocal monitor at jams. This will work, plus you get the greater flexibility of using the second amp's pre-amp controls. $20
Whirlwind Little IMP
 
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eudaimonia said:
Ended up buying another 115 cab for my 500H. Picked it up today. It's a bit overkill for the band I'm using it in, but you can't beat the sound of 15".
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True! I love the broad smooth dispersion of the entire midrange with a good 15" woofer. They really are unbeatable for that important aspect of live bass.

Maybe you should pick up a Rumble 200 1x15 combo for your 'in between' gigs where you need more than your 40 but the 500 is shear over-kill.
 
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