Fender Rumble Club

[Michael B]

That's what I was thinking. I guess I should keep the Carvin preamp volume turned all the way down? I just ordered the cable I need. It should be here Friday.

Curious what method you will be using to go from 40 to the carvin?

There are xlr to 1/4 inch cables but these do NOT change the impedance correctly.

As mentioned you need a converter from lo to hi impedence if going from the low impedence (z) xlr to the high impedence input on front of Carvin.

You mentioned you bought a cable rather than a converter and that you were new to the concept so I thought I would ask. If you are not new to this please disregard my post.

 

[1stnamebassist]

Curious what method you will be using to go from 40 to the carvin?

There are xlr to 1/4 inch cables but these do NOT change the impedance correctly.

As mentioned you need a converter from lo to hi impedence if going from the low impedence (z) xlr to the high impedence input on front of Carvin.

You mentioned you bought a cable rather than a converter and that you were new to the concept so I thought I would ask. If you are not new to this please disregard my post.

I found a HiZ LoZ converter in my pile of stuff I don't use anymore from the early 90's. It was given to me by a sound guy at a gig when I had just got back to playing. I'm curious if a passive direct box would work also?

 

[Michael B]

I found a HiZ LoZ converter in my pile of stuff I don't use anymore from the early 90's. It was given to me by a sound guy at a gig when I had just got back to playing. I'm curious if a passive direct box would work also?

Yeah I think everyone has to get one somewhere on their music journey. Usually it's when trying to plug a mic into a guitar amp.

 

[1stnamebassist]

Yeah I think everyone has to get one somewhere on their music journey. Usually it's when trying to plug a mic into a guitar amp.

It was so long ago I don't remember what we used it for!

 

[GregT]

So wait, I'm tying my two Fender Rumble 500's with "effects send" to "effects return" on the second amp. Is that wrong? Should I do "effects send to input of the other amp?

You are doing it absolutely right since you have two Rumbles!!

I need to try it with my 100 and 200. I just don't know when I would ever use it that way. I never play that loud. Well, maybe outside in the Summer.....

 

[hondo4life]

You are doing it absolutely right since you have two Rumbles!!

I need to try it with my 100 and 200. I just don't know when I would ever use it that way. I never play that loud. Well, maybe outside in the Summer.....

How can you have two Rumbles and not hook them up together? They should always be hooked up together!

 

[GregT]

How can you have two Rumbles and not hook them up together? They should always be hooked up together!

The 200 is my stage amp and the 100 is my practice amp. I carry as little as I can possibly get away with when I play. On a serious gig, I'd bring both amps and two basses. Backups are good.

If I ever hook anything up to my 200, it will probably be an extension cabinet. So far I haven't needed one. Well, once outside. But then, I'd just like to have a 500 for that...... For now I love my 200!!!

 

[jlepre]

Ok...OK...enough of this technical mumbo jumbo...did I mention how my Rumble 500C kicked major ASS at last night's gig WITHOUT FOH support? AMAZING!

 

[Linnin]

Ok...OK...enough of this technical mumbo jumbo...did I mention how my Rumble 500C kicked major ASS at last night's gig WITHOUT FOH support? AMAZING!

WOOT! Now that's what I like to hear!
Rumbles Rock!

 

[btmpancake]

It's good to see someone else not need FOH support. Some sound systems can sound like garbage.

 

[Bassmaticmatt]

I just had a crazy idea. I'm thinking about joining a band worth 2 guitars. They are both playing through combos right now. I'm thinking about getting a Rumble 100 v3 to play with them. My thinking is as they level up there gear I can possibly buy a second 100 to both use at home and as a slave amp on stage. Any thoughts? I don't want to spend the money on a 500 or 200 Right now.

 

[Linnin]

I just had a crazy idea. I'm thinking about joining a band worth 2 guitars. They are both playing through combos right now. I'm thinking about getting a Rumble 100 v3 to play with them. My thinking is as they level up there gear I can possibly buy a second 100 to both use at home and as a slave amp on stage. Any thoughts? I don't want to spend the money on a 500 or 200 Right now.

Not crazy at all. A pair of Rumble 100's would move only slightly less air than a Rumble 200 combo on top of a Rumble 112, and the same amount of air as a Rumble 200 head on top of a pair of Rumble 112's. Which would be $600 vs $750 vs $900. Even though you will have 100 watts going to each 12, you are not going to have 200 watts of headroom. Maximum SPL will be close.

 

[Bassmaticmatt]

That's my thinking as well and stacked on top of each other will look the same as 200 with a cab. Perhaps a little smaller. And I would also have the option of having one on either side of the stage. (I tend to move around). Or setting one up as a stage monitor for the drummer.

 

[Linnin]

That's my thinking as well and stacked on top of each other will look the same as 200 with a cab. Perhaps a little smaller.

More than just a little smaller, but a very nice mini-stack all the same. Stacked identical drivers benefit from speaker coupling effect.

 

[CharlyG]

It also depends on SS vs tube. As long as they stay SS yer cool. If they get a 100 watt Marshall tube head, you would need more than 200 SS watts on bass. At least in my experience. The safe bet would be a 500, so how bout the 100 or 200 now and a 500 later? Then you'd be covered for sure. 300 watts minimum to compete with a 100 watt tube amp, and that is cutting it close. Ampeg had a 300 watt TUBE head to compete with 50 and 100 watt tube guitar stacks.

 

[Linnin]

I would seriously consider the 500.

Especially for the very same $600 that a pair of Rumble 100's cost.

 

[btmpancake]

I would seriously consider the 500. When you're playing with two guitar players, it's always good to have the Bass Power you may not think you need. A regular guitar combo doesn't require the power a bass amp does. What if in the future, one or both go to a larger more powerful amp. Extra power is a plus to have anytime with a bass amp.

In our circles around here the old rule of the thumb WAS we had to run 4Xs the guitar players output if it came down to it, but it never did.

 

[Linnin]

In our circles around here the old rule of the thumb WAS we had to run 4Xs the guitar players output if it came down to it, but it never did.

Also look at the number of 500 owners who also own Rumble 40's or 100's for personal practice. There are plenty of times when the 500 is simply overkill.

 

[btmpancake]

Also look at the number of 500 owners who also own Rumble 40's or 100's for personal practice. There are plenty of times when the 500 is simply overkill.

This is very true, but there were times when I'd wished I had more because of the guys I played with. But now my bandmates play within reasonable volumes (no earplugs).

 

[Linnin]

This is very true, but there were times when I'd wished I had more because of the guys I played with. But now my bandmates play within reasonable volumes (no earplugs).

This is just one of the reasons that I still love my V2 Rumble 350 head so much. Plenty of ballsy grunt when you need it along with ultra-clean low volume when you don't. The overdrive is more like an EHX Bass Big Muff Pi Deluxe than the V3's overdriven tube like circuitry.