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Fender Rumble Club

#11,741
ubernator said:
I wouldnt expect it to sound like a greenback or v30, but you would be surprised that bass cabs actually can work for guitar.
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Oh man, I have a yorkville 115 made as an extension for a combo, this thing sounds amazing with both bass AND guitar. If the cab has a tweeter I'd try to disconnect it for distorted guitar, but otherwise it could sound really good - only one way to find out.
 
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pie_man_25 said:
Oh man, I have a yorkville 115 made as an extension for a combo, this thing sounds amazing with both bass AND guitar. If the cab has a tweeter I'd try to disconnect it for distorted guitar, but otherwise it could sound really good - only one way to find out.
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Yeah, I turn tweeters off for sure, even on bass when I overdrive. Years back I used to jam rush covers with the wm10 and I used one of my 12" Yamaha wedges as an extension, I had to open er up and disconnect the horn.

The only thing that will suck with the r112 is the awkward size, it is too narrow to go under the guitar amp, and several inches deeper so it might not be good on top. I might consider putting the amp on its side and stacking it on top that way. Another issue is the combo has a 16ohm speaker, but it might be a good thing for more power to divert to the bass cab anyway. Being ported I'm sure it will add some beef to the sound, to better go against the usual 4x12 closed back that most other guitar players use.

That is one of the 2 reasons I had decided on the 210 (dimensions, and it making all 3 drivers get the same power), along with the 210 on its side being good to put on top of 410 in big rig. But being that using the big rig is not likely in the future, as is doing guitar, it made sense to jump at this 112 used for half price, since I am most likely to be just using it with the 200c and that was my priority. I am sure it will turn out to be good for all uses, but hopefully I will be able to replace my guitar cab, and either/or my 115/210 swr that were stolen.
 
#11,743
Extra 210 Cab came last night

It also happened to come on the day that a lady and her daughter was coming watch us play. We are playing in her daughters short film premier Sunday and they wanted to see our band play first. They choose a good day to come!

I didn't really know what to expect from the extra cab at first, but it blew all of my expectations. Especially in a band context.

I was running a 500 head and a 210 cab before, 12 o'clock volume, EQ flat majority of the time. Tone was good but adding this new cab, turning the volume down a bit and boy! The amp sounds sweet as! Pure clean tone at my fingertips. Everything sounds more refined and more tight. I haven't increased in volume when playing with the band but I am definitely cutting through better. But not only could I hear a better sound, I could FEEL a better sound. Legit - my stomach could feel those vibrations, I guess this is where the name Rumble comes from, music is meant to be felt and well as heard - these two cabs along with my Jazz are providing the sound and the feel! Forgot to mention - OVERDRIVE! Wowzers, I thought before I had a good overdriven sound.... With these two cabs it sounds 10 fold better...!

The two ladies loved us, they were stamping their feet and bopping their heads so I guess I done my job:cool:

I enjoyed playing for them and Fender has really succeeded in blowing my expectations here. I really didn't think it would have such a drastic change in sound.

Happy Rumble owner here! :bassist:
 

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All bass cabs won't do for guitar is give that "omg I'm being pushed to the point of breakup" grunt that low watt speakers do. In many cases that is not needed. It does not matter if the cones are "stiffer" in excursion, since cones don't do much excursion reproducing midrange, so even a high capacity sound reinforcement driver should still preform well enough for guitar with even 5watts class a.

If ever get a chance to jam on guitar any time soon, I will try it and let it be known. My combo is about 19" tall, so putting it on its side will stack perfectly on the 112, and it "looks" like a guitar cab since you can't see the ports and horn through the grille without bright light and effort ha, so nobody needs to know. Think of it like using a boogie thiele 112, just the speaker is a bit more substantial. The vk speaker in the combo being higher up should still give the mids if they are lacking from the rumble. If it is too unbalanced I can always put something 8ohm in the combo to upgrade it later on
 
#11,759
ubernator said:
I wouldnt expect it to sound like a greenback or v30, but you would be surprised that bass cabs actually can work for guitar.
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One of my favorite cabs for a guitar that I've ever tried is an Ampeg 2x15" sealed monster, no horn. Back in the day, there were no bass or guitar speakers. They were just speakers. I think it all depends on what kind of amp you use and expect. My favorite amps are Vox guitar amps which pretty much require a Celestion Alnico to complete the tone. I'd think that if you put them through a bass cab, they'd just kind of sound crappy and harsh, since they really need that Celestion magic to tone them down while at the same time bringing out the clarity (sounds contrasting, but if you've ever used an Alnico, you know what I'm talking about).

But if you have something cleaner, more Fender-like, that don't depend on the speaker to contribute as much tone, then I don't see why it can't work for guitar. You may want to turn off the horn, though, and you'll probably have to reduce the bass a healthy amount at the amp, since a Rumble cab will be so much more full range than anything that guitar speakers usually reproduce (though not always).

One of my favorite guitarists around town actually plays his guitar through an Ampeg B100R, a solid state 100W 1x15" combo amp that vaguely resembles a B15. He gets a tremendous sound out of his setup. He loves to hit the fuzz hard, and the bass amp does an amazing job of delivering the power of the fuzz while toning it down a bit so that even when they're playing loud and you're in the front row, his tone is never painful, always toneful.

I often play guitar through my Rumble 40. It can't really deliver Vox sounds or anything, but I could totally get through an entire gig on one if I had to.
 
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CharlyG said:
What does the $70 iso pad do that a small piece of carpet won't?
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I picked up a four pack of these anti-fatigue Mats for 8 bucks at Harbor Freight. Each is quite big enough for a 1x15 cab. Just about right actually. Stacked they are about 2 inches or so thick.

I'm going to try them under my 2 112's. I've turned my living room into a music room and it's a fairly large room with thin carpet. The room sounds pretty boomy at higher practice volumes.

The plan is to adjust my amp to eliminate the Boom and then bring a little bit of the boom back in... Just a tad. Then I'll put the pads under the cabs and if it tames the boom cool. If not I'll use them in front of my workbench.

Label says Resilient Neoprene Rubber. I've got some carpet remnant to put between the mats as well. Gonna try just the mats first.

We'll see. I'll post the results late this evening.
 
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