by: Kelly Martin; Terry Foster, and Paul Kelly. I needed it to complete my Fender library. Very nicely done with excellent quality photos. As far as I know only one edition published 2010, and too damned expensive.
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A much better history is Richard R. Smith's 'Fender: The Sound Heard 'Round The World'.
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The best book for Fender Basses is 'The Fender Bass: An Illustrated History' by Black & Molinaro
The thing of it is that with today's print on demand technology those old advertising posters and catalog covers could easily be produced as each sale was made, and have zero stock. Almost 100% profit.
I just sat down for about 80 minutes with a Rumble 500 combo at Sam Ash, and wow!
I was absolutely blown away with how well it sounded dialing a variety of different tones. I went through a bunch of my bands set (all covers, many genres) and there is nothing it couldn't do! and man was it LOUD. I can't even imagine how loud it gets with an extension cab.
I have a strong feeling i'll be joining this club soon.
I was absolutely blown away with how well it sounded dialing a variety of different tones. I went through a bunch of my bands set (all covers, many genres) and there is nothing it couldn't do! and man was it LOUD. I can't even imagine how loud it gets with an extension cab.
I have a strong feeling i'll be joining this club soon.
Everyone is welcome. Even moderators. Although we are often immoderate.
The big revelations on the eq for me was that 1) the Gain is more of a active/passive pad rather than a traditional gain and 2) I start with the Bass at 9:00 and work my way up, the v3 Rumbles are Low/Low-Mid forward.
An interesting side story: I had shelved my old 3-band EBMM Stingray because it was simply to aggressive and twangy for the tone I've been after, I had been favoring a P bass or Jazz. However through my new Rumble rig and a broken in set of Lo-Riders, the Stingray sound great, thick and punchy like the old school Stingrays, its back to the top spot again
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Ok.....I have to go stop the looper. Can't take it any more
Nah, man.
Just sit in front of the amp and jam to yer loops!
Like Jaco!
Let me guess, your drummer took 80% of the sound-check time getting levels on the snare and kick? Everyone else got about 15 seconds?
Could have been that way, in younger days... I see that crap happen from time to time though, hard to keep my head from boilingLet me guess, your drummer took 80% of the sound-check time getting levels on the snare and kick? Everyone else got about 15 seconds?
We usually only do a linecheck anyway, when we share our backline with another band that has already soundchecked and played before us. I had no trouble whatsoever getting the bass loud and clear in a matter of minutes. Loving my Rumble mini stack already.
Let me guess, your drummer took 80% of the sound-check time getting levels on the snare and kick? Everyone else got about 15 seconds?
I have dealt with worse than primadonna drummers chasing the ideal kick and snare tone in a bar. How about shows up an hour late, 15 minutes after the latest time we could start a sound check, AFTER saying he is going to get there super early, like 6pm, to have some drinks and shoot some $#it at the bar. We had a 7-8:15 window to start the soundcheck because doors are at 9. I am looking at 7:30 eta. Drummer sends a text saying traffic is bad and he is looking like 7:30 as well. At 7:27 I arrive and text that I am there, but the parking lot is a nightmare (downtown Fullerton). Drummer replies with "can't text, I'm about to be driving" . I'm thinking w.t.f?!?! So I go in, find the soundguy and start setting up my rig, rumble 200/112 stack, and take my time making the cable run to the pedalboard and footswitch nice and neat, I used the effects loop that night since I had not added my boss odb3 yet and was just using dimed rumble overdrive for the song that had distortion bass intro.
So I'm hanging around, by this time I know the guitar player is looking at just before 9 because he had to get his truck out of the shop and there was a delay. It is not a big deal because he has a simple rig, combo amp, foot switch, done.
Drummer shows up at 8:30, sets triangle flares on Commonwealth ave and double parks and starts unloading his cases, and strews them all over the stage and leaves to park. Guitar player showed up right after and starts to set up.
30 minutes later the drummer shows up, he had a burnout jail buddy there as his "roadie" (I'm sure you know where this is going), so yeah the 8:30 load in had an extra set of hands, and mine too of course, but now when it comes time to setting up the drums, he has to worry about telling the burnout what to do, so setup does not go well since the burnout didn't know how to do it. Drummer starts barking orders at me to move this case, open that case, get my floor tom etc... Not to mention he liked standing on my cables and gives me $#it for asking him not to. He is clearly drunk already, in fact when I asked him why it took 30 minutes to park, he says "we had to make a stop at the liquor store bro, and pound some beers in the parking lot".
So drunk drummer starts to realize how late he is and starts trying to rush. I had my olp leaning on my amp and my Thunderbird on my stand next to the amp, and drunk ass knocks it over and the Thunderbird catches its fall (lucky no big dings), and immediately gives a half passed sorry and then proceeds to tell me it should be on a stand because it is an accident waiting to happen.
I was a soundguy for several years, I know how this soundguy is feeling because he can't even start running stands and cables till the drums are up. Yes I put most of the drum cases in the staging area just to hurry the process up. The club is holding doors to the room we are in as long as they could. We are line checking as they were being let in, we finished line check literally 72 seconds before downbeat at 10pm, where the room fills to capacity, which we were not expecting, game on!
So he missed a few changes and kept a straight beat through a couple breakdowns, but we didn't trainwreck, and as this same drummer liked to say "the drunks at the bar won't notice mistakes", so the crowd dug it big time (tribute, so they know what they are coming to see/hear).
So we play the set, get an encore, and the same thing... This club has a curfew on the showcase room because it effects the capacity of the whole place (which has 2 other bars, inside and large indoor/outdoor patio stage), so we now have 20 minutes to break it all down. I am not even done wrapping my cables and door starts barking orders at me to get his cases...
Of course soundguy did not give us any of our monitor mix change requests, passive aggressive, and I don't blame him!
We get paid (check this time that the singer took care of since he booked the gig), singer and guitarist are with their wife/girlfriend so they leave.
Before the trip back to the venue from the parking lot after the load out, he has me come to his truck and drink a beer with him,, which was sketchy because this ain't Vegas! I tell him that we can't treat a venue that way, stressing the crew being late etc... And he tells me "I'm the talent, they work around me! All they care about are the numbers".
I won't go into the details (I lied, plenty of details to follow) other than that I stayed late to use up our drink tickets with the drummer, and as he gets drunker his true colors show, racist and homophobic comments , and even to the bartender about someone he thought was "alternative lifestyle" and was creeping him out. The bartender said he was her friend and not to worry, he wasn't (alternative lifestyle, I'm not going to say the words but you get the idea). WE ARE USING DRINK TICKETS, and were the only band that night. I am worrying now that we might have some damage control to do. It got worse than that, he starts hitting up random people to sell him weed, and I had to talk some sense into him because he was about to ask one of the bouncers....
And did I mention the racist comments in a highly mixed club atmosphere playing hip hop (which he started the conversation by calling the music "n word noises", and later goes on an " all lives matter" rant, not realizing who was 6" behind his head, the look on that guy's face was not a comfortable one.
I guess that is about all I need to say, other than that it was my first show with the band, and his last, after I gave the other guys the after show behavior report, since the band had already been banned from another venue, and nobody stayed late so they didn't know how bad he got after more drinks.
Of course one of the guys let it slip some of the things I quoted, which drummer denied and recently told me "people like you are not worth the $#it on his shoes" when I texted him to try to get the band banner back, and also asked him if he wanted to sell his Thunderbird. That didn't go well. At that point BL wipes all mention of him or pictures off the Facebook page, where he was still mentioned as a "contributing musician", since he was not fully fired at first, just officially demoted out of the the full time slot, even though none of us wanted to play with him again.
This was 2 months ago. I refrained from ranting about it all this time, on talkbass at least. Several of my friends heard about it.
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I loved your story, @ubernator . A TB classic "fire the dr*mmer" tale. I can't think of anything in recent memory that comes close and thanks to copious alcohol therapy, I've forgotten enough of the good old days.
My skin and stick guy did cop an 'tude when I told him that Me and Bobby McGee doesn't end with a snare snap. We redid the song and he beat the tar out of his kit for the outro but let the quiet ending happen. He asked if I was satisfied. I said, "The cops aren't here --- yet." I'm running my bass rig at about 1/4 volume so if anyone can get his neighbors ticked off, it would be me. They're used to his noise but not when I turn it up to DOOM!!!
My skin and stick guy did cop an 'tude when I told him that Me and Bobby McGee doesn't end with a snare snap. We redid the song and he beat the tar out of his kit for the outro but let the quiet ending happen. He asked if I was satisfied. I said, "The cops aren't here --- yet." I'm running my bass rig at about 1/4 volume so if anyone can get his neighbors ticked off, it would be me. They're used to his noise but not when I turn it up to DOOM!!!
My master rarely goes higher than 1/4 unless I am not using the 112 and have to push the internal 15" 140w over a drummer in a hard rock setting. I have a zoom recorder room recording of us working on distant early warning, but the guitar players were a bit light on the volume (rhythm guitarist was using a vox ad30vt 110 30w valvetronix amp and lead was not cranking his rig)It was just the 200 alone and my 98 jazz.
(I wasted 11mb of my data plan uploading it only to get an error about the file extension. Which is odd)
@ubernator Your story convinces me even more never to go freelance as a bassplayer. My current band I formed after 40 and with 20 years playing I knew what kind of bull I needed to keep at arms length when finding bandmates. After going through 7 people, we found the proper lineup that I know I can trust and rely on. The camaraderie and mutual respect for each other is one of the key things that actually led me to forming a new band after a long hiatus.
Your story is an excercise in pain and I hope you never need to deal with such again.
Your story is an excercise in pain and I hope you never need to deal with such again.
The band is dping much better without him. Before that show debacle, he was holding back the band, would not do his homework so the new songs were slow to be added, and he made sure we hardly ever practiced, and always showed up late when he did practice (and not cancel the day before or the day of which was common).
It was all for the best that I stayed after and hung with him to fully get in his head. I did not like what I found. He rubbed me wrong from the start, things he said never added up, such that I was one of 3 bass players, when the singer told me the other guys were out of the picture, and likely because they didn't want to deal with the drummer's BS.
Our new main guy is starting to have availability issues, and our sub is uber pro (so is the main guy but in pop and Latin scene rather than rock, the last gig we did he played staples center the next day on a Latin gig, he makes all his money teaching and gigging full time). We may be looking for a 3rd.
Ubernator, I've really never had much of that kind of BS to deal with, I've been lucky enough to always have a day job that covered expenses. I could quickly bail on groups being consumed by personality flaws. Though this intolerance for playing with idiots occasionally keep me between groups I did learn how to be a very good cook "o)
We had a good drummer with a great attitude, we where still in the rehersal mode when he went with a working band, kids to support and all that. We decided that we could do OK without a percussionists. At this stage we are a three piece with guitar, mandolin and bass, covering what we enjoy playing, from Hank Williams to the Zombies, all of us have paid the dues and we are just in it for the fun/addiction of being musicians.
I don't know if it's part of what makes a bass player, but I can not walk away from playing with a band or playing for an audience. though I've gone a few years without being in a band over the last 58 years, usually because of rehabbing, learning how to play again and occasionally learning how to walk again.
Some musicians can play and perform without back up. I'm a bassest, the day I played my first bass I knew it, I wish I could eloquently discribe why that is or even what the whole of the instrument is, but words fail me. I know that it has a lot more going on than the right note at the right time, more than just the heartbeat of the group, maybe a little closer to the soul of what music is. To do service to the song is sublime, I believe that's on us, can't explain it, but I feel it.
We had a good drummer with a great attitude, we where still in the rehersal mode when he went with a working band, kids to support and all that. We decided that we could do OK without a percussionists. At this stage we are a three piece with guitar, mandolin and bass, covering what we enjoy playing, from Hank Williams to the Zombies, all of us have paid the dues and we are just in it for the fun/addiction of being musicians.
I don't know if it's part of what makes a bass player, but I can not walk away from playing with a band or playing for an audience. though I've gone a few years without being in a band over the last 58 years, usually because of rehabbing, learning how to play again and occasionally learning how to walk again.
Some musicians can play and perform without back up. I'm a bassest, the day I played my first bass I knew it, I wish I could eloquently discribe why that is or even what the whole of the instrument is, but words fail me. I know that it has a lot more going on than the right note at the right time, more than just the heartbeat of the group, maybe a little closer to the soul of what music is. To do service to the song is sublime, I believe that's on us, can't explain it, but I feel it.
Me too, but what do you think is above a strong feeling?
After due consideration and intense reflexion to many potential challengers, some of whom I have actually tried: Promethean, MB 121P, 151P and JB, TC BG250 210, 115 & 112, GK MB210, 115, 112, incl. MBP add-ons, Ashdown 300w and 120w, Peavey MAX 115, Rumble 200, etc.
+ the video by Matt Stottman... that is fantastic and was key to the decision...
At last, my quest had ended....
I have pulled the trigger for a brand new Rumble 500 v3.
The Light and Mighty that you cannot go wrong with...
Scheduled to get to its new home on Friday.
It will replace my big and heavy (not so heavy actually) HARTKE rig (stacked AK cabinets: 410+115).
I will post pictures as early as I can, please hold the line, and prepare my membership card and # ...
