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Fender Rumble Club

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Pougels said:
maybe we should start an investigative section just to actually get the definitive answer from Fender.
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Call 'em and ask 'em. See what the official line is. I know for a fact that the bodies and necks were produced and shipped to Ensenada deliberately and according to planned production. There is no such thing as 'surplus' bodies and necks. To think otherwise is ludicrous.
 
#17,542
Linnin said:
Call 'em and ask 'em. See what the official line is. I know for a fact that the bodies and necks were produced and shipped to Ensenada deliberately and according to planned production. There is no such thing as 'surplus' bodies and necks. To think otherwise is ludicrous.
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Methinks I am being read into a bit too much here, esp on the semantics of the word "surplus".

The only way to be sure anyway would be to talk to someone who was in the know at fender at the time who has a good enough memory and isn't the type to just say whatever just to shut us up regardless of what the actual truth was.

It is kindof moot because I heard USA bodies, " extras" perhaps around the time the USA line made a major change in 95, and linnin is saying they were purpose built. Both of us are saying that the bodies and necks started out in Fullerton and/or corona so that is the good news regardless, you have wood that was initially cut by fender USA.

I admit to going by hearsay and adding my own conjecture, and linnin has closer ties to fender than I do.

But to burst bubbles slightly, the finishing, assembly and quality control/setup is a huge part of what separates a USA fender from a MIM or AIM fender (don't forget the tex Mex or California special fenders which were advertised as USA/Mex hybrids either). Some can be cherries. Others not so much, but always serviceable.

And remember, I prefaced the whole thing by saying "rumor has it". So I was never claiming definitive proof, it also may only apply to certain years and models and versions. The world may never know. If during the period when all the bodies and necks were cut in USA, then a squier series is just an MIM (AIM) with cheaper components.

My (now former) singer has an early mid 90s squier series hardtail strat, with the one ply pickguard, but I have not seen it in person yet to verify the rest of the components. He upgraded the pickups. The tuners on the tele I had briefly were the closed back kind that come on the cheaper squiers (same as my first squier II), and my tele had cheap mini pots, and the bridge was non standard (not an easy swap for a fender tele bridge plate) and did not string through body. There was less low end compared to other Mex teles too, which could have been from several factors, lack of string through, cheap pots, cheaper pickups etc... But the body was nice and heavy and resonated well, and the neck reminded me of a 70s tele. I ultimately traded it in on a 1995 MIM deluxe tele (with upgraded gotoh tuners because they originally came with vintage style tuners which are not so great). I do like that much better than the black logo 1996 I traded in for it, but I never did any upgrades on that one (it would have required drilling for the tuners and a string through bridge)
 
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ubernator said:
It is kindof moot because I heard USA bodies, " extras" perhaps around the time the USA line made a major change in 95, and linnin is saying they were purpose built. Both of us are saying that the bodies and necks started out in Fullerton and/or corona so that is the good news regardless, you have wood that was initially cut by fender USA.
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Corona. The Fullerton plant wasn't bought by FMIC in 1985 and CBS sold it off later (I do not know when nor do I care). FMIC struggled mightily just to stay alive. With no American factory at all FMIC contracted the very same Japanese manufacturers that CBS had sued to produce licensed Fender guitars and basses. Thus Fender Japan was born. It wasn't until around the year 2000 that FMIC really took off into the company that we now know and love. Fender Rumbles being born in 2003 and made at first in Ensenada, Mexico. The Ensenada plant was originally built to manufacture amps. Everything else was added later on.
 
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Going away from the Rumble for a while. The Ashdown fits more with the band's sound. I will end up getting a Rumble head when I see a steal(I mean deal) as I like the tone for the rounder type tones needed for churches and small more folky/country settings. So I'm selling the 200c with NO complaints and nothing but good tings to say about the V3 Rumbles. Actually I would grab a V2350 head in a heartbeat at the right price.... See ya around the next "bend".
 
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CharlyG said:
Going away from the Rumble for a while. The Ashdown fits more with the band's sound. I will end up getting a Rumble head when I see a steal(I mean deal) as I like the tone for the rounder type tones needed for churches and small more folky/country settings. So I'm selling the 200c with NO complaints and nothing but good tings to say about the V3 Rumbles. Actually I would grab a V2350 head in a heartbeat at the right price.... See ya around the next "bend".
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Ahem, @Linnin has exactly what you are looking for , ahem, cough.

Scroll back a bit, not too far and you will see.
 
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#17,559
Linnin said:
Good question. Sometime after the original factory (no CNC) burned down to the ground on Feburary 11th, 1994 and the new complex completed. We'll have to investigate that one.

There is no such thing as 'surplus' bodies and necks. It's not like they have an expiration date and have to be used or go rancid. They were deliberately produced and shipped to Ensenada.
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Linnin said:
Call 'em and ask 'em. See what the official line is. I know for a fact that the bodies and necks were produced and shipped to Ensenada deliberately and according to planned production. There is no such thing as 'surplus' bodies and necks. To think otherwise is ludicrous.
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You can deliberately produce items surplus to the requirements of the location they are manufactured in order to supply another location.
But I think we are getting into semantics
 
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