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Fender sticker on LICENSED Fender neck . . .

#21
Get one made and stick it on, it's your bass. If you dislike it after that take it off and leave it blank.
If people ask you about it then be honest tell them what it is, and tell them the story behind it. It's interesting.
Having Fender on the headstock is aesthetically correct, it just looks right - if you are comfortable with it.
Finally, consider keeping your current logo but happily tell anyone and everyone what a cock the owner of the company is, that's quite funny.
 
#25
I have a 69 Tele bass body. I recently put an aftermarket neck on it, since used necks are a crapshoot and I can't get a new one feom Fender.

Necks wear out, get broken etc. like any other part. This part just happens to have the maker's name on it. If I had a Lexus, and the hood was replaced with a Chinese aftermarket part, I would expect to see the Lexus insignia.
 
#26
hover said:
Is it produced, serialized / trackable and warranteed by Fender in a Fender plant?

No?

No bueno.
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I'm just curious where some of y'all draw the line.

- If I buy a Fender P and a J and swap the necks, then sell the J body with the P neck, is it okay to leave the Fender decal on my P body with the J neck? I mean, the bass no longer matches the serial number and is no longer warrantied by Fender.

- What if I do the above and then change the headstock decal from a Fender Jazz decal to a Fender Precision decal? Is that okay?

- What if I buy a Fender bass and swap out the pickups and tuners for aftermarket ones. Can I leave the headstock decal on that? It would also no longer match the records for the serial number and would not be under Fender warranty.

- If I buy a Fender bass and just swap out the body for a licensed body, is it okay to leave the Fender decal on the headstock?

- If that's okay, then what if I buy a Fender bass and just swap out the neck for a licensed neck? Can I put a Fender decal on that?

Really, unless you say that making ANY change (even pickups or tuners) means you should remove the headstock decal, then how do you decide where to draw the line on what you can change and still keep the headstock decal versus you what change and can no longer use a Fender headstock decal?

I guess the "rule" could be that you can keep any Fender decal that was put on by the factory, and you can replace a Fender decal that was put on by the factory, if the original was damaged or removed (meaning, you're putting it on the same, original neck, not a replacement neck). But, if that's the rule, then that would mean you could build a bass that had a Fender neck and not a single other Fender part - or even Fender replica or licensed parts. It could be a Fender neck with custom tuners, grafted onto a Gibson body, with Music Man pickups, and the "rule" would say that it's okay to have the Fender decal on the headstock. That doesn't make much sense to me.

In the end, a decal that says Fender really only seems to mean that the decal was made by Fender....
 
#28
ps. I built a J that looks exactly like a Fender, but I used a Warmoth body and Allparts neck. I made my own logo in Photoshop, printed it on waterslide decal paper using my inkjet printer, and put it on myself. So, that's where my money is at. If you're not artistically inclined, there are plenty of people on eBay, and probably here, too, that will do it for you very inexpensively!

And the way I look at it, the ignorant snobs who only show respect to Fender are going to see my bass and assume it's a Fender anyway, just from the shape. The other ones, who may look more closely, will see my custom logo and may ask about it. But at least they won't run me down for not having a Fender. I figure my bass will probably actually get as much or more respect from those people than if it said Squier or Fender MIM or CIJ, too.

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#29
Just my 2 cents taken from an article I read recently in the Wall Street Journal. This was about automobiles but the principal is the same. recently a manufacturer of fake Ferrari's and Aston Martin's in Spain was arrested and his production and inventory of the fake Ferrari's was impounded by Spanish authorities. This was on a complaint from the Ferrari legal department. They weren't particularly good fakes, and lacked a Ferrari logo in the appropriate places, but they were being sold by the company making them! So here's the relavent part : You can do what you want, but as long as you're not offering it up for sale to anyone or representing it as an original when it is clearly not, then who cares? If I made a Ferrari replica in my garage and was able to get it registered and inspected, do you think Enzo would care?
 
#30
To the OP, you asked, I answered. To anyone taking me to task about my implying it's bad ethics or this or that, if you don't like my take on it, blow it out your butt. Its an opinion.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. Just sharing my take on it: It's disengenuous, you're lying to youself, and catering to brand whores.

StuartV, to answer your question, I replaced the neck that failed on my MIM p-special. I had a dude here make me a waterslide decal that says "Fendre". A) it's not lying, b) it's kinda funny.

/end rant.
 
#36
So, my Fender bass made in the Cort Factory, is a "licensesed" Fender as Fender didn't build the bass, Cort did under license. The only difference is that instrument was SOLD by fender as opposed to a neck sold by say, Allparts.

Silly if you ask me. Fender has diluted its own brand once MIJ instruments bore the Fender logo. Fender used to mean Made in California. Now it really means nothing.

Again, put whatever logo floats your boat.
 
#37
hover said:
To the OP, you asked, I answered. To anyone taking me to task about my implying it's bad ethics or this or that, if you don't like my take on it, blow it out your butt. Its an opinion.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. Just sharing my take on it: It's disengenuous, you're lying to youself, and catering to brand whores.

StuartV, to answer your question, I replaced the neck that failed on my MIM p-special. I had a dude here make me a waterslide decal that says "Fendre". A) it's not lying, b) it's kinda funny.

/end rant.
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hover,

You didn't really answer my questions. Where do you draw the line? How much can you change from the way it came from the factory before it's, to use your words, lying?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, seriously! I'm just sincerely curious on your point of view. I'm certainly not trying to argue either way on whether it's okay or not. It's kind of moot for me, since if I put a headstock decal on a custom bass, it's going to be one of my own.
 
#38
You can put a logo on it.
But if you sell it one day, you can not sell it as a fender. You must tell the buyer that it is not a Fender otherwise it's false advertising, which is illegal. (or so it is in belgium)
 
#39
FloridaSam said:
So, my Fender bass made in the Cort Factory, is a "licensesed" Fender as Fender didn't build the bass, Cort did under license. The only difference is that instrument was SOLD by fender as opposed to a neck sold by say, Allparts.

Silly if you ask me. Fender has diluted its own brand once MIJ instruments bore the Fender logo. Fender used to mean Made in California. Now it really means nothing.

Again, put whatever logo floats your boat.
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No, licenses go the other way. Allparts pays Fender a fee to license their design. Fender pays Cort a fee to build their crap.

It's not the same thing, as the money flows the other way. FMIC owns the brand, so it is up to them to determine what they want to affix it to. Just because allparts/warmoth/mighty-mite/etc. may have paid FMIC a licensing fee to allow them to build bass and guitar parts with their basic design doesn't mean they have rights to slap the Fender brand on anything they build.

As for myself...I think it's pretty lame to put a Fender logo on a non-fender bass, but that's mostly because I don't like Fender very much. I think one might as well slap a Wal-Mart or Hyundai logo on it for all the improvement it'll make.
 

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