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Double Bass Figured scrolls, pinnacle of class or gaudy?

What are your thoughts on ornately figured scrolls?

  • Pinnacle of class and sophistication, so cool…

    Votes: 25 29.8%
  • Gaudy and tacky … “why, I’d never…”

    Votes: 17 20.2%
  • Indifferent, its all about the sound

    Votes: 42 50.0%

  • Total voters
    84
There have been a few EUBs made with minimal/no scroll at all. Did you show her any of those? What would she (or you, or I, or anybody) think of an acoustic bass with that sort of design? Why not that? Why anything?
I have a rabbit puppet I’ve had since childhood. I used to slip it over the scroll. Given my long term financial outlook, that’s probably as close as I’m gonna get.
Play, Boy. Play that bunny!
 
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There have been a few EUBs made with minimal/no scroll at all. Did you show her any of those? What would she (or you, or I, or anybody) think of an acoustic bass with that sort of design? Why not that? Why anything?
I have a rabbit puppet I’ve had since childhood. I used to slip it over the scroll. Given my long term financial outlook, that’s probably as close as I’m gonna get.
Play, Boy. Play that bunny!
 
I believe it is a bass played by Charles Mingus that has a "lionish" carving made from the actual normal scroll. I wouldn't alter my bass to do that, but it's a creative idea. I've never seen another similar one.
 
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The answer for me is "it completely depends." Some carved scrolls are indeed gaudy and tacky (IMO, of course). But a well-done lion's head looks great. If I had a choice between two otherwise equal basses for the same price, I would jump at that lion's head. I still don't know if I would call it "the pinnacle of class and sophistication," so I had to vote for the middle-ground option.
 
In college I took class cello and bass (I almost got kicked out for not being a music major) from a lovely woman and exceptional cellist named Evelyn Elsing. She is still emeritus faculty at U of MD. She was very patient with this die hard rock and roll kid. She had a cello with a beautiful lion's head scroll! I'd never seen a figured scroll before and fell in love (with the scroll and Evelyn, too, a little...). So, yeah, I'm all for it! A few years later I got a BC Rich Mockingbird electric bass, like the one in my avatar. My drummer/roomie at the time was singularly unimpressed with the aesthetics, being a Bauhaus/form follows function adherent. We agreed to disagree. I'm all for playable art, but if you want to strip it down to a Steinberger boat paddle or a washtub, rope, and broomstick go for it! It's all good!

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I won't seek them out. They also drive the price up. Except this one, I am wondering if Bob Ross is the TB'er Bob Ross?


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I won't seek them out. They also drive the price up. Except this one, I am wondering if Bob Ross is the TB'er Bob Ross?


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Yep. You can see that photo at the bottom of his Gallery page. (I helped him set up his current website.)


I do believe it's a close-up of this bass, which he made. I have to say, on this bass, the figured scroll is completely fitting:

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That would actually be perfectly suited for that gig!
The band was the Brazilbillies, I do remember that. Still can't remember his name... Faron... Forest... Fauntleroy...?

Might have to use my phone-a-friend afterwhile if it don't come to me! We crossed paths a lot down there. Played the same stages.
 
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The majority of broken basses I have worked on sounded better when the scroll was broken off or missing than when they were "restored" to original spec. As a builder, I find them a fussy waste of time!
I find this interesting. My first DB, a Kay M-1 purchased in the early 1980s and which I still have, came to me with the scroll broken off. Of course, since I've never had it with the scroll I cannot make an A/B tone comparison.
 
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Most of the 59 examples were a definite no for me. Gaudy, distracting... I think a well executed lion's head can be nice, but wouldn't go out of my way to get one.

BTW, the attached pic is of a German bass that used to belong to Mingus [Edit, just realized an earlier post referred to this - here's the pic!]. The "lion's head" was just a conventional scroll that had been crudely carved to look (something) like a lion's head. Not great when you got up close, but probably nobody had the nerve to correct the maestro about his taste in bass scrolls!
 

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I'm basically indifferent. My biggest objection is that I've seen a few that I think are poorly carved. So I'd be fine with an excellent one, but couldn't stand anything less. I really like my tuners, so I'm not immune to appreciating visual aesthetics at the top of my bass. But I've been lost when people commented on especially beautiful scrolls. Just not a part of the bass I pay a ton of attention to. Upton scrolls have 1 less turn. Not important to me one way or the other. I go back and forth on the few scrolless basses I've seen.

So if I loved a bass that happened to have a carved scroll, I'd be fine with it. But I would not pay a premium for it or buy a bass I did not love because of the scroll.

I am very happy to have nothing about my bass that is flashy or other wise unusual. I guess I like my basses to reflect my essentially workmanlike approach to my playing.

The other day I was talking with a fiddler my wife knew before his set. He was playing a fiddle that he had made with a molded bird skull for the scroll. Looked mighty cool IMO. And the guy got a VSA gold medal, so I'm sure not going to argue with his choices! ;)