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Finally starting my OWN project

So, took the wife and kids on a vacation for the last week or so. Had a blast while spending many hours listening to a wide variety of live music from a white-hot jazz combo with a rock solid bassist to a duet cover set that sounded like end-of-the-night karaoke. One of the waiters that worked with us turned out to have an amazing tenor and a good grasp of Sinatra. He was from the Philippines somewhere and had a heavy speaking accent that disappeared into an American northeastern one when he was on stage. We got a little buzzed one night after his shift and did a couple 3-part harmonies with the wife. Just outstanding. I missed my bass though.

I had the band on break for the 9 days that I was gone. The fiddler gets twitchy when he doesn't play for 24 hours, so he stuck his nose into a couple of open mike and jams and stuff. Pianist and I were appreciative of the time off. Singer may actually not have noticed I was gone. Chunky McBanjo certainly didn't.

Talked to the pianist for an hour last night. I think it was probably the most constructive hour I've ever spent talking about band stuff.

She got a really good vibe at the jam session from a couple weeks ago (#136 in this thread) and wants to ignore the singer until something happens (gig booked, he learns his parts, studio owner actually opens the venue he's been promising, heat death of the universe, etc), get the guitar player working, pester the drummer, get 45 minutes together, and play some open mics within a week or two. A little jazz, a little blues, a couple shuffles, and this gypsy thing we've been working on will fill the time with stuff we've been through at least once and all the players are professional enough that a couple hours to nail arrangements is all that we need to blow the doors off something little like that. It will take longer to scout out a place to play than it will to prep the tunes.

Also got some interest from the female singer (from the band in post #126) who's also a sometimes member of my Sunday jam. She has a pretty voice and extraordinary endurance. Would love to play with her; she can really belt. Needless to say, a jillion times better than the current guy.

If the singer doesn't get his stuff together, we're gonna have to have the come-to-j..us talk. The other two in the band have approached me separately about ditching him. He's had plenty of time and plenty of feedback. And, as anyone that's been reading along can attest, I've had more-than-plenty of patience.
 
Whelp, this week’s rehearsals just weren’t as good as I thought, although the potential is still shining brightly. Now, I get to move beyond complaining about lack-of-musical-talent into complaining about the noodly “let’s write an original” stuff.

After the singer cancelled rehearsal on Tuesday, we decided to get together at my house, have a band meeting, and futz around a little. Came away with some interesting information.

We’re ALL tired of working around the singer, so when he wants to rehearse again, I’m gonna say something like “OK. You know, I was thinking that we talked about a couple of gigs and the band really does have those tunes down. I think we need a goal in mind before we spend anymore time on these particular tunes, so when’s the gig? Oh, you didn’t schedule it yet? Well, we really do need that goal, but as soon as you can make that happen, we’ll get together and do a dress rehearsal before we play.”

That hot five piece from #136 impressed everyone, not just me and the pianist, so the goal (with buy-in from everybody) is to get that back together. Drummer was hesitant when I talked to him, but I asked his best buddy to feel him out and see what we can do to convince him.

The fiddler really wanted to write something new. That wasn’t our original plan, but whatever. We knocked together a couple of instrumental ideas, got them on paper, and started running the arrangements. One is pretty straightforward and one has a kinda latin feel. Wrote a cool bassline for that one. They’ll certainly get on the list once we have ‘em finalized with some melodic interludes etc.

Also, everybody thinks we need to get some singers involved in the process. I know the guitar/singer from Sun Sawed in 1/2, so I’ll ask him for advice. He’s like my rock-sensei; I’m sure he’ll know something or someone.

Made a recording. Turns out that bass groove is reduced in direct proportion to Remyd’s time floating around on the water. Yuck. Turned on a metronomish drum pattern the next day and left it running at one tempo or another for the next 5 hours. My freestyle rap is not where it might be, but that elementary school game (say-ev-ry-thing|with-the-beat-yeah) got my internal ticker back in order for Thursday. Also, my kids are calling for impeachment in favor of a dad that will turn off the click and stop trying to rhyme every other word but whatever.

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Yesterday, I realized that the word “originals” is ALREADY starting to get a little old. The piano player needed to rest her voice for an important audition (for the music director of a church), so called off. Brought the guitar player instead. He likes originals. The fiddler is still all about originals. They’re both rockers, so no jazz working in that section. Did a little Blues, a little Doors, and farted around with something original which may or may not turn into a whole song.

Those musicians are talented as h-ll, but we’re moving away from the Jazz/Blues concept a little faster than I’d prefer. I wanna get a set together and go freaking PLAY. That’s much easier to do if you don’t have to listen to people wanking around trying to put something new together from a couple licks. Want 90 minutes of music stat, we can do noodly writing after.

I’m not sure if I like this. Next week, I’ll bring a list of some covers to flesh out what we’ve got and schedule something like “New music on Tuesday, bring charts, Current music on Thursday, Jam stuff on Sunday”

Also, what about “Potluck Sunday” for a band name?.
 
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If your fiddle can pull off the Jean-Luc Ponty vibe it would open up a lot of jazzy fusion landscape.
Like from Enigmatic Ocean or RTF's 'Mothership Returns' phase...

Potluck Sunday not resonating with me, but names seem to be pretty arbitrary these days...
 
I understand the little bit of frustration with trying to write originals. Probably just going to set you all back a little bit, and we all know originals can be hit and miss. Tell the band that if they want to do originals, write them and chart them in their free time, then bring in for the band to play. That way you wont have to waste any time during rehearsals writing new material.
 
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Hi,

Yes, it really sounds like you need a gig. Then you'll have a goal, be able to at least stabilize a set list for that performance, and get an ensemble in front of people. Your members may start to lose interest if all you do is rehearse/jam two or three days a week.

I kind of like "Potluck Sunday" for a band name, especially if you want a more wholesome image for your ensemble. If you want a name that's a little more "adult nightlife" then perhaps "Potluck Riot" or "Midnight Potluck". (Can you tell I like the "potluck" aspect?) ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Talked to a possible singer (the best of my jam session) for about 20 minutes yesterday, while she complained about not being included (in something that re-started on Thursday) and not wanting to be "the replaceable singer" or "that chick that sings 5 songs for $20" (which is what I had in mind, and exactly why she was there to audition). She poo-poohed what (a couple originals) we were working on, gave me some un-listenable indie rock as inspiration, and berated both me personally and my preferred genres generally. Also, she doesn't like performing, because it doesn't come from her soul or something.

Obviously, a real team player.

I had to stop the stupid whining. I ended with "Look, my problem isn't the music, it's the attitude. Don't care if your voice is better than Mariah Carey's, you're not getting anywhere near my band. If this is how you've been approaching music this whole time, no wonder your career never went anywhere. Good luck to you, 'cause you're gonna need it."

Why would you come out to a try-out to tell the band that you're auditioning for how much they, their audition list, and their genre sucks? Wouldn't your time be better spent choking on a rooster?
 
Hi,

Obviously, a real team player.

Obviously, not a good fit. Sometimes that happens. OK, sometimes that happens a lot. As happy as we are, sometimes my band struggles over new songs to add to the repertoire. Luckily there is enough common ground and mutual respect that most of us are happy and the rest of us are mostly happy. ;)

Struggle on! I have a feeling your project is going to be pretty dang fun once it all gets sorted out.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Talked to a possible singer (the best of my jam session) for about 20 minutes yesterday, while she complained about not being included (in something that re-started on Thursday) and not wanting to be "the replaceable singer" or "that chick that sings 5 songs for $20" (which is what I had in mind, and exactly why she was there to audition). She poo-poohed what (a couple originals) we were working on, gave me some un-listenable indie rock as inspiration, and berated both me personally and my preferred genres generally. Also, she doesn't like performing, because it doesn't come from her soul or something.

Obviously, a real team player.

I had to stop the stupid whining. I ended with "Look, my problem isn't the music, it's the attitude. Don't care if your voice is better than Mariah Carey's, you're not getting anywhere near my band. If this is how you've been approaching music this whole time, no wonder your career never went anywhere. Good luck to you, 'cause you're gonna need it."

Why would you come out to a try-out to tell the band that you're auditioning for how much they, their audition list, and their genre sucks? Wouldn't your time be better spent choking on a rooster?

That is some real insight on time management. :)
 
So, p*ssing off that idiot singer p*ssed off the guitar player, who called me to tell me how difficult the singer was being. I asked him if he wanted to keep playing with us and got a "Well, I'm starting this other project..." Then they recruited the fiddler for that indie project. It is basically guaranteed to suck the suckity suck based on what I've heard so far and their stated influences. I'm not a fan of the singer or the genre and, given half a chance, would have certainly said something impertinent (like guaranteed to suck the suckity suck, for instance).

In other news, after this week, we have 17 tunes on the hit list, including 5 originals in good shape as a trio. 7 have vocals: 2 from the fiddler and 5 from my wife. I estimate 10 of them are performance quality and at I would feel comfortable recording about half of those. In another week, we'll have nailed ~20. Also booked a freebie party gig for a mutual friend in two weeks.
 
Hi,

Yes, it really sounds like you need a gig. Then you'll have a goal, be able to at least stabilize a set list for that performance, and get an ensemble in front of people. Your members may start to lose interest if all you do is rehearse/jam two or three days a week.

I kind of like "Potluck Sunday" for a band name, especially if you want a more wholesome image for your ensemble. If you want a name that's a little more "adult nightlife" then perhaps "Potluck Riot" or "Midnight Potluck". (Can you tell I like the "potluck" aspect?) ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
Potluck Vampires?
Alien Potluck Invasion?
 
Um, guys? This is a small jazz combo with a chick and a fiddler.

New rule: No vampires, aliens, or chicken choking on stage.

Usually, in jazz, those things are frowned upon. And, from what I hear, the fiddle player would put me to shame in the poultry department anyway. He can evidently choke five chickens in the time it takes me to choke one. According to his ex-girlfriend. ;)
 
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