But it’s in the first 12 seconds!
It’s one thing to bury a mistake three minutes into the song. But that’s the first time you hear that progression in the song.
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Fleetwood Mac - Ugh.
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It’s one thing to bury a mistake three minutes into the song. But that’s the first time you hear that progression in the song.
The reality is that those mistakes facilitated the purchase of a lot of coke.
I guess it shocks me that the bassist didn’t just go, ah screw it, I messed up the first F, I’ll do it again.
It’s not like when I listen to Stanley Clarke hit a bad note in a song but I realize all the band members were playing in the same room at the same time and you can’t be overly perfectionist there.
It just seems like a strange choice for a band that produces their material impeccably and doesn’t leave that many mistakes in their recordings. To be that early in the song.
There is a good chance much of the basic tracking on Fleetwood Mac was recorded the same way.
Fleetwood Mac, being the first release with the Buckingham/Nicks line up, was recorded within a relatively-short three months. It was after that initial success and with subsequent releases that they became more meticulous and took more time with details and tracking. I'll bet you'd be hard pressed to find a similar flub on any other Buckingham/Nicks-era release.
I think you may have inadvertently addressed your own curiosity.
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Easy these days to forget that - if it even was a mistake - they’d have to do a manual drop in where now you’d just pick a good note from somewhere else in the track and cut and paste.
Kids these days have it so easy, my day we had to make sure the wax cylinder was warm enough and the horses were going round the treadmill fast enough to power the generator...
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Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in late on the conversation and reading only half of the replies.
As many times as I've heard this track I've never noticed that "poor choice" with that note. But now that you've brought it to my attention I can't "un-hear" it. Who knows why they left it? I can only speculate. And we love to speculate, don't we?
It's possible that upon playback they listened to a big pair of studio monitors cranked way up and just didn't really notice it enough to force another take. I've been in recording sessions where the client would want to listen to the playback on smaller speakers at lower volumes because they could hear better. Or maybe it was late, or they were up against a deadline, and they just wanted to get it in the can. Maybe they were partying too hardy and loved it the way it was.
Wasn't it Rick Ocasek of The Cars who would take the recording out to his car stereo and listen to it? If it sounded good on his car stereo then he would be satisfied.
Anyway, an interesting bit of musical trivia.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
Forgive me for jumping in late on the conversation and reading only half of the replies.
As many times as I've heard this track I've never noticed that "poor choice" with that note. But now that you've brought it to my attention I can't "un-hear" it. Who knows why they left it? I can only speculate. And we love to speculate, don't we?
It's possible that upon playback they listened to a big pair of studio monitors cranked way up and just didn't really notice it enough to force another take. I've been in recording sessions where the client would want to listen to the playback on smaller speakers at lower volumes because they could hear better. Or maybe it was late, or they were up against a deadline, and they just wanted to get it in the can. Maybe they were partying too hardy and loved it the way it was.
Wasn't it Rick Ocasek of The Cars who would take the recording out to his car stereo and listen to it? If it sounded good on his car stereo then he would be satisfied.
Anyway, an interesting bit of musical trivia.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
Herb Ellis used to say that when you play a clam, play it again with context. It never was wrong.
If you listen closely, it’s Berry Oakley that manages to bring it back to earth as if it never happened. I’ve actually come to love that “mistake”.
Setting aside any valid points the dude might have made,,I really hate that band.
Sorry, carry on.
Wut?
Where? I have never noticed.
I hear it but it goes by so quickly that it doesn’t create a train wreck. Popular music is full of those moments and it’s no big thing. I don’t believe that perfection should be the goal anyway. Magic is what catches the listeners imagination and it happens when the song and the energy of the players come together in an engaging way that affects the listener on an emotional level.
I’ve been in recording situations where the producer effectively wrung all the excitement out of every track because he wanted it to be perfect. We aren’t perfect, we are all flawed human beings but we can create magic when we are allowed to relax and be ourselves. I’ve heard plenty of mistakes in well known recordings but if the groove and the energy are there, I don’t care.
It's in the second or third verse maybe? One of the versus page loses time with bohnam and they all found the one again just at the end of the verse. It's pretty subtle but it sounds off.
Quick edit. I just cant remember which verse but it should be the second or third verse.
First take.
Sounds good? Yes?
Feels good? Yes?
Next song!
Wise(b)ass
Sounds good? Yes?
Feels good? Yes?
Next song!
Wise(b)ass
A lot of jazz is like that, I guess I expect it there. Pop rock, much less so.I’ve just been listening to Mahavishnu Orchestra’s Inner Mounting Flame... if you want to hear “clams” they left them all in that one
All of you are starting to help convince me to some degree that it wasn't too awful of a mistake.
