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Fodera Club Part VI

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At least theoretically, there is no reason to assume that short-phase creative bursts are necessarily different than the longer processes that you mention, but I imagine it is substantially harder to study because- and I'm obviously ignoring the most practical concerns of "can someone be truly creative while undergoing fMRI", etc- the longer process of creating a song often calls upon multiple brain functions. The creation of a simple melody might involve mental memory (thinking of songs that sound similar, running multiple ways to evolve the idea in parallel, associated memories that the piece either recalls or draws him), muscle memory (thinking about how you might play it), emotions, etc etc. Each of those is not a single part of the brain, too, so you might see a LOT of areas lit up over time as the person sits and creates. It doesn't necessarily generate useful information as it is such an active process.

They've tried this here at Stanford and it wasn't a particularly useful endeavor. It doesn't lend itself to a useful control/baseline (like Dr. Limb had between playback of the tune's head and the traded soloing).
 
At least theoretically, there is no reason to assume that short-phase creative bursts are necessarily different than the longer processes that you mention, but I imagine it is substantially harder to study because- and I'm obviously ignoring the most practical concerns of "can someone be truly creative while undergoing fMRI", etc- the longer process of creating a song often calls upon multiple brain functions. The creation of a simple melody might involve mental memory (thinking of songs that sound similar, running multiple ways to evolve the idea in parallel, associated memories that the piece either recalls or draws him), muscle memory (thinking about how you might play it), emotions, etc etc. Each of those is not a single part of the brain, too, so you might see a LOT of areas lit up over time as the person sits and creates. It doesn't necessarily generate useful information as it is such an active process.

They've tried this here at Stanford and it wasn't a particularly useful endeavor. It doesn't lend itself to a useful control/baseline (like Dr. Limb had between playback of the tune's head and the traded soloing).

Agree with all of the above! While there probably are significant differences between protracted creativity (e.g. writing a symphony) and immediate spontaneous creativity (e.g. jazz blowing), but the latter is much more amenable to scientific experimentation. I'm very interested in the former process, just not sure how to study it. (Gotta love Talkbass)
 
At least theoretically, there is no reason to assume that short-phase creative bursts are necessarily different than the longer processes that you mention, but I imagine it is substantially harder to study because- and I'm obviously ignoring the most practical concerns of "can someone be truly creative while undergoing fMRI", etc- the longer process of creating a song often calls upon multiple brain functions. The creation of a simple melody might involve mental memory (thinking of songs that sound similar, running multiple ways to evolve the idea in parallel, associated memories that the piece either recalls or draws him), muscle memory (thinking about how you might play it), emotions, etc etc. Each of those is not a single part of the brain, too, so you might see a LOT of areas lit up over time as the person sits and creates. It doesn't necessarily generate useful information as it is such an active process.

They've tried this here at Stanford and it wasn't a particularly useful endeavor. It doesn't lend itself to a useful control/baseline (like Dr. Limb had between playback of the tune's head and the traded soloing).
Agree with all of the above! While there probably are significant differences between protracted creativity (e.g. writing a symphony) and immediate spontaneous creativity (e.g. jazz blowing), but the latter is much more amenable to scientific experimentation. I'm very interested in the former process, just not sure how to study it. (Gotta love Talkbass)
[Laughing!] Yep, gotta love it!

I'm no doctor, but I am a writer, and the creativity that creates a book seems substantially different than the creativity that trades solos. As they say in writing: good writing is rewriting. In other words, it is creating, then looking very critically at it and tearing it down to build it again.

I bet Dr. Limb had at least a few drafts of his rap poem before he declared it finished.

Again, I'm no doctor but theoretically for me, there is every reason to believe the two processes are very different.

Spontaneous solos are always first draft by definition -- little critical "right brain" scrutiny gets involved as compared to the iterative creation process of writing. It seems like there is a lot of passing back and forth of tasks in "protracted creativity."

But how on earth could you study THAT in an MRI? I don't think I'd like to spend 80 hours in a tube writing a few chapters for you!
But hey, we are WAAAY off topic. :eyebrow:
 
Well that's the point- substantially more areas of the brain are being called upon in the process of creation from inspiration. There is a lot of parallel processing going on in a number of different sectors of the brain when sitting and carefully composing as compared to a more reactive process like in soloing. But there is nothing to say (or not say) that the portions of the brain used in JUST the creation aspect are any different in those two scenarios.

Of course, neither is there any justification so that that they ARE the same, as that's what science is supposed to test...but nobody has found a good scientific method for testing it (yet).
 
I recorded my debut album last week and this was the wood I used :D

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Actually Mike's bass (the Mike Pope Viceroy) will debut on Saturday at 1:00 pm PST...this evening (5:00 pm PST) will be the debut of the "mystery" model that we have been promising. If you are already a Club Fodera Member on our website, you will be receiving a sneak peak in an hour or so...if you are not already a Member...time to join! LOL!

The full details of the new model will posted to our website simultaneously to Victor, Joey and I announcing it at 5:00 PST this evening...

Gotta go -- NAMM Show Madness continues....

J

;) :D

Can't wait to see Mike Pope's Viceroy and the new Fodera bass debut tomorrow!!
 
Actually Mike's bass (the Mike Pope Viceroy) will debut on Saturday at 1:00 pm PST...this evening (5:00 pm PST) will be the debut of the "mystery" model that we have been promising. If you are already a Club Fodera Member on our website, you will be receiving a sneak peak in an hour or so...if you are not already a Member...time to join! LOL!

The full details of the new model will posted to our website simultaneously to Victor, Joey and I announcing it at 5:00 PST this evening...

Gotta go -- NAMM Show Madness continues....

J
Cool man.. lots of fun things going on.. Was the carpet there on time this year? :-)
 
Actually Mike's bass (the Mike Pope Viceroy) will debut on Saturday at 1:00 pm PST...this evening (5:00 pm PST) will be the debut of the "mystery" model that we have been promising. If you are already a Club Fodera Member on our website, you will be receiving a sneak peak in an hour or so...if you are not already a Member...time to join! LOL!

The full details of the new model will posted to our website simultaneously to Victor, Joey and I announcing it at 5:00 PST this evening...

Gotta go -- NAMM Show Madness continues....

J

Based on what I see, I am pretty sure I am going to want one of these! I can't wait to see for sure!!!
 
Actually Mike's bass (the Mike Pope Viceroy) will debut on Saturday at 1:00 pm PST...this evening (5:00 pm PST) will be the debut of the "mystery" model that we have been promising. If you are already a Club Fodera Member on our website, you will be receiving a sneak peak in an hour or so...if you are not already a Member...time to join! LOL!

The full details of the new model will posted to our website simultaneously to Victor, Joey and I announcing it at 5:00 PST this evening...

Gotta go -- NAMM Show Madness continues....

J
My mistake. Thanks for the clarification, Jason.

Have fun at the show!
 
If you are already a Club Fodera Member on our website, you will be receiving a sneak peak in an hour or so...if you are not already a Member...time to join! LOL!

The full details of the new model will posted to our website simultaneously to Victor, Joey and I announcing it at 5:00 PST this evening...

Gotta go -- NAMM Show Madness continues....

J

I seem to have missed the sneak peak on the new instrument.... is it posted in the members area on the website?
 
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