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Fodera Club Part XV

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nostatic said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XafPI4aL4U

*sigh*

I am so infatuated with my MGS that I am thinking of throwing myself into that spec. The only things I would change would be cosmetic and getting a bit more room to slap/pop. And after playing steubig's fretli, I'm sold on that as well. I'll end up selling the koa Monarch and flipping the MGS when these show so I wouldn't be in a total world of hurt financially. So we're thinking:

Fretless Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 fret equivalent
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, walnut tone block
ebony fingerboard (unlined)
3-piece ash neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD

Fretted Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 small frets
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, alder tone block
ebony fingerboard
3-piece maple neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD

Could you do a Mike Pope special on the end of the fingerboard for the fretted? Not sure what that option would cost, but that would give you more room to pop and still make the high D available.
 
kamakiriad7 said:
To my TB friends, I have a question and I'm curious what people think of this. I'm doing some modifications to my Emperor 5 standard - adding a ramp and changing pickup covers - and I don't know what wood to use for which. Which do you prefer - pau ferro ramp/maple pickup covers, or maple ramp/pau ferro covers? Does anyone have any pictures they can refer to?

To be honest I think you'd have a very hard time trying to match some maple pickup covers to the bi-color top. I know it's a highly personal decision, but I've never liked the look of wood covers that try to match the top wood. They just never look right to me. The only exceptions I've seen that I like are buckeye burl and cases where the covers and top are a perfect match (the katalox top on Angus' bass comes to mind). If it were me, I'd go with pau ferro for both or pau ferro covers with an ebony ramp. But that's just me.
 
Hmm, good call. I hadn't considered the visual aspect of matching the grain to the bi-color top. Upon browsing a few on the newborns page, I definitely prefer pau ferro covers (rather than maple) but am still usure about the ramp wood. Ebony is a great idea. The body wood is ash however, so I'm considering that idea as well, altough I'm not sure how two brighter-shaded woods would look on the top. Maybe I'll whip something up in ms paint.

Thanks for the feedback! I'm very excited about this little post-order "customization". :cool:
 


*sigh*

I am so infatuated with my MGS that I am thinking of throwing myself into that spec. The only things I would change would be cosmetic and getting a bit more room to slap/pop. And after playing steubig's fretli, I'm sold on that as well. I'll end up selling the koa Monarch and flipping the MGS when these show so I wouldn't be in a total world of hurt financially. So we're thinking:

Fretless Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 fret equivalent
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, walnut tone block
ebony fingerboard (unlined)
3-piece ash neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD

Fretted Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 small frets
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, alder tone block
ebony fingerboard
3-piece maple neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD


I'd think hard about that fretless spec. A Walnut body with an Ash/Ebony neck is going to be awfully hard sounding. All attack and not much swell -- which is the opposite of what I'd want in a fretless.

But maybe that's the what you're going for.
 
nostatic said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XafPI4aL4U

*sigh*

I am so infatuated with my MGS that I am thinking of throwing myself into that spec. The only things I would change would be cosmetic and getting a bit more room to slap/pop. And after playing steubig's fretli, I'm sold on that as well. I'll end up selling the koa Monarch and flipping the MGS when these show so I wouldn't be in a total world of hurt financially. So we're thinking:

Fretless Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 fret equivalent
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, walnut tone block
ebony fingerboard (unlined)
3-piece ash neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD

Fretted Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 small frets
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, alder tone block
ebony fingerboard
3-piece maple neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD

Wow! That would be cool. Not charmbered?
 
I'd think hard about that fretless spec. A Walnut body with an Ash/Ebony neck is going to be awfully hard sounding. All attack and not much swell -- which is the opposite of what I'd want in a fretless.

But maybe that's the what you're going for.

I thought that was the defacto Fodera fretless spec? Did you see Christian McBride's fretless monarch?
 
A couple of questions for Jason, or anyone in the know…

Why did Fodera settle on the flush-mount ‘straplok’ system from Dunlop as opposed to say the dual system?

Any issues with the strap metal portion of the lock marring the finish of the upper horn due to movement and wear?
 


*sigh*

I am so infatuated with my MGS that I am thinking of throwing myself into that spec. The only things I would change would be cosmetic and getting a bit more room to slap/pop. And after playing steubig's fretli, I'm sold on that as well. I'll end up selling the koa Monarch and flipping the MGS when these show so I wouldn't be in a total world of hurt financially. So we're thinking:

Fretless Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 fret equivalent
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, walnut tone block
ebony fingerboard (unlined)
3-piece ash neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD

Fretted Imperial neck-through, MG shape
5-string, E-C
33" scale
24 small frets
Dual coils w/ramp
17.5 mm bridge spacing
walnut body, alder tone block
ebony fingerboard
3-piece maple neck
black hardware w/D-tuner
top TBD


GATEWAY!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'd think hard about that fretless spec. A Walnut body with an Ash/Ebony neck is going to be awfully hard sounding. All attack and not much swell -- which is the opposite of what I'd want in a fretless.

But maybe that's the what you're going for.

That was an initial suggestion from Jason, and I think that is one of the combinations that they find works well for fretless. Still tbd though - to be a twin it should have an alder block and I do like alder.

Wow! That would be cool. Not charmbered?

Evidently the MG shape doesn't have a lot of room for chambering so it might not make much sense. I have to admit that I've been shocked at how comfortable the MGS is on a strap. I have used it at 3 hour gigs with a good strap with zero fatigue. And actually I think it might be more comfortable than the Monarchs, just due to the body contours, length, etc. Ergonomics continue to surprise me with instruments. I've owned some really nice basses that other guys love and I could never get comfortable with. I also used to be a total weight weenie and chase feather light instruments. Hard to believe my first call bass now is 10lbs. Go figure...

GATEWAY!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know what you're talking about. I can quit any time I want.
 
With Nerve



That'd be John Davis. And he's sick. I think it goes without saying that Jojo Mayer is a monster.

John started out as a straight ahead jazzer on the double bass. Then again I'd argue that what Nerve does (live electronica heavy on improvisation) is spiritually more akin to jazz than a lot of music that calls itself jazz.
 
A few things to consider:

1. Unless you are planning on sending us the instrument you are limited to doing a Pau Ferro Ramp. We will not be able to properly match the top of your bass without having it in house. Additionally, from a dimensional stability standpoint, Pau Ferro is vastly superior to flame maple as a ramp material.

2. Without sending us the bass, we could not make you wooden pickup covers. They are a different size and require us to re-route the bass.

Hopefully this is helpful!

Cheers,

Jason

To my TB friends, I have a question and I'm curious what people think of this. I'm doing some modifications to my Emperor 5 standard - adding a ramp and changing pickup covers - and I don't know what wood to use for which. Which do you prefer - pau ferro ramp/maple pickup covers, or maple ramp/pau ferro covers? Does anyone have any pictures they can refer to?
 
Actually Joel this has evolved into our goto set of woods for fretless instruments. Some of the finest sounding fretless instruments we have built over the past several years (IME) have had exactly these woods. It's the same spec that we used on Christian McBride's bass. We are quite happy with it and it certainly doesn't sound hard or lacking in swell at all.

Cheers,

J


I'd think hard about that fretless spec. A Walnut body with an Ash/Ebony neck is going to be awfully hard sounding. All attack and not much swell -- which is the opposite of what I'd want in a fretless.

But maybe that's the what you're going for.
 
Joey and Vinny felt that it was the best choice aesthetically and ergonomically. We have not had any problem with the lock marring the upper horn -- here I am speaking from both personal and shop experience...

J

A couple of questions for Jason, or anyone in the know…

Why did Fodera settle on the flush-mount ‘straplok’ system from Dunlop as opposed to say the dual system?

Any issues with the strap metal portion of the lock marring the finish of the upper horn due to movement and wear?
 
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