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Fodera Club Part XVII

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#901
spade2you said:
I have no problem jumping between 35" scale, 34" scale, 33" scale, 32" scale, and 30" scale basses.
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yeah, i have friend that does that as well.

better men than i . . .

however, i will say, i think it depends on how and what (music) you play. about 90% of what i do is improv stuff that doesn't entail parts (or sometimes complicated written parts), so it's all about being able to nail where i want to go in the milli-moment. i think it also gets a little hairier if you play fretless as well and do a lot of switching.

my general purpose in putting it out there was for the op to question how much changing *he* wanted to do between scales and how it would fit with how *he* does stuff.

it's not an absolute by any means.
 
#905
I have fretli in 35", 32" and 30" scale. I'm far from a great player. One of my strength is that I'm pretty comfortable on most basses and guitars.

This guy didn't take me too much adaptation. :D

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#906
again, it's not necessarily about what works for you or me, but trying to get the op to think about how it works for him.

i think it would be easier for me to go between a 34 and a 30 than between a 34 and 33 or 35.

and i think it depends on what your goals are for playing.
 
#908
Anyone ever had the problem that the frets start to be "feelable" to the side of the fretboard? My Monarch Deluxe has this. It's like the frets are protruding a tiny tiny tiny little bit to the side of the fretboard ... remedy? I do oil the fretboard whenever I do change strings.
 
#909
styro said:
Anyone ever had the problem that the frets start to be "feelable" to the side of the fretboard? My Monarch Deluxe has this. It's like the frets are protruding a tiny tiny tiny little bit to the side of the fretboard ... remedy? I do oil the fretboard whenever I do change strings.
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the remedy is getting the fret ends filed. i had fret spout on my ebony boarded elite 5 as well as the lams in the 5 piece neck shrink making the grain on the back of neck feelable. sent it back to fodera and they filed the fret ends and fixed the back of the neck. the lams ended up shrinking more a year or so later and i sent it to michael dolan who resprayed the back of the neck.
 
#910
Stephent28 said:
Really?
Is that because the change would be more drastic and make you more mentally aware while you were playing?
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At different times I've had fretli in 30", 34", and 35". It kinda depended on the instrument but to generalize, for me, bigger jumps were easier (30" to 34"). That said, I had a devil of a time with fretted 30" and 34" on gigs. If I wasn't thinking about it I'd end up two frets off. On the right tune that won't make a difference :D

I've decided that for me, it'll be 34" scale no matter what. Well, except for the upright I just bought which is about 40" :eek:
 
#911
This often happens when a fretted instrument is in very dry (humidity-wise) conditions. Any local luthier can file the edges of the frets down for you. I have had to have this done on every bass I have ever owned after its first winter season...

Hope that helps!

Jason


styro said:
Anyone ever had the problem that the frets start to be "feelable" to the side of the fretboard? My Monarch Deluxe has this. It's like the frets are protruding a tiny tiny tiny little bit to the side of the fretboard ... remedy? I do oil the fretboard whenever I do change strings.
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#912
Just Thumpin' said:
This often happens when a fretted instrument is in very dry (humidity-wise) conditions. Any local luthier can file the edges of the frets down for you. I have had to have this done on every bass I have ever owned after its first winter season...

Hope that helps!

Jason
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Wouldn't it just be better to maintain adequate humidity? I've previously learned this one the hard way.
 
#913
This sometimes happens on multipiece necks (as the different laminates expand and contract at different rates). in my personal experience with our instruments I have never seen one that required additional spray on the neck to remedy the situation. We have always been able to rub out the finish and get the back to the factory spec.

That said, if it happened during the first 5-years of ownership (by the original owner), we could take care of it in one day as part of the warranty.

Regards,

J

narud said:
the lams ended up shrinking more a year or so later and i sent it to michael dolan who resprayed the back of the neck.
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#915
nostatic said:
I've decided that for me, it'll be 34" scale no matter what. Well, except for the upright I just bought which is about 40" :eek:
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Nostatic, how's the upright? Do you have it yet? I'd love to see/hear a review sometime, as I'm in the market for a slightly shorter scale upright (42" doesn't interest me anymore). Thinking about going this route: Invalid Link Removed

Regarding sharp fret ends, it almost always happens in these dry conditions. My E5S has been pretty good for it - the ends are only slightly noticeable - but regardless, I bought an Oasis case humidifier to help with that. It's my opinion that the instrument sounds better when properly humidified.
 
#916
Just Thumpin' said:
This sometimes happens on multipiece necks (as the different laminates expand and contract at different rates). in my personal experience with our instruments I have never seen one that required additional spray on the neck to remedy the situation. We have always been able to rub out the finish and get the back to the factory spec.

That said, if it happened during the first 5-years of ownership (by the original owner), we could take care of it in one day as part of the warranty.

Regards,

J
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being in ca, at the time it made more sense to keep it in cali. cross country shipping with insurance for full value of the bass to have it done under warranty was more expensive than having it done by someone else.
 
#917
Kamakiriad, I wouldn't hesitate to buy an upton bass, I have a professor that I've owned for 6 years and a Bostonian for 2, I've never played a better bass, now back to your regularly scheduled program....fodera
 
#919
Stephent28 said:
Really?
Is that because the change would be more drastic and make you more mentally aware while you were playing?
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it gets into my peculiarities/idiosyncrasies.

part of how i taught myself to play is by finding all the notes on the bass neck—blindfolded. so a lot of my thing is about the ergonomics of where things are.

so, when i'm trying to do things like get a stretch of a triple stop with a fifth-second-minor third, it's all about the feel of where things are—and i don't like to look.

so yeah, the scales being closer together is problematic for me. i can play a little guitar and that's easier for me as they're pretty far off. upright didn't have the same issues because it's also a much different scale (but ever play a D neck versus an Eb neck?).

also, we're talking about more than 40 years of playing the same scale, so it's pretty ingrained . . .
 
#920
Got a chance to play an Emperor II Elite on Friday. My friend JC Alza brought it down to a jam and let me rip it.

To say that it is an incredible instrument is an understatement. Effortless to play, unbelievable note quality (oh, that low B), authoritative, and singing tone. I didn't notice the 35" scale until I was told. Played 4 songs with it and didn't want to put it down.

I'll never give up my Emperor 5 Deluxe but I have started saving for a new big brother Elite.
 
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