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Free editor for Zoom pedals: B1on, B1Xon, MS-60b

@Tonelib Small bug report for 2.5.582:
  • When swapping patches by drag and drop descriptions are not swapped;
  • When adding effect to a patch random letters are added to end of patch name.

Pedal is B1Xon 1.21

Also, description says 2.5.582 free. Is there a paid version? What's the difference?

Again, thanks for the app. It is amazing and finally opens the pedal for me :thumbsup:
 
Thanks. It's been a long time since I've done any real messing around with Wine but I think you may be right. Found this B1 Controller software that sounds like it's commercial but doesn't have anything listed as far as price. Has a deb on their website. I have it installed and it launches but I'm still waiting for my B1xon out for delivery from Amazon. Would be great if I can at least use this as a librarian for free. Stopped using Windows over a decade ago and really don't want to go back for any reason if I can avoid it.
 
And with a little VirtualBox magic, voila:
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@Tonelib I have owned my MS-60B for about a year and a half, but have HATED editing any of the settings. I'm too old and my eyes hurt when I try to use the knobs, etc. I want to thank you for this tool, it just plain rocks, and may actually get me to use this pedal in a live setting. I quickly built 5 effects chains and got all goofy having fun with the different pedals.... you have made this a very fun pedal! </endfanboyrant>
 
I've just come across this thread...

I don't use a lot of effects, but have a B1on that I use for some specific sounds in particular songs. I worked my way through the built-in patches, found one close to the sounds I'm after, and moved them all to the same bank to make it easy to switch between them on stage. Then I started tinkering to try and get the exact sounds I wanted ...and totally lost interest. Editing patches on the B1 is such an awful experience.

This. Looks. Awesome. I can't wait to get home tonight, download it and get going. I'll repost in a couple of days when I've spent some time playing with it.
 
@Tonelib I have owned my MS-60B for about a year and a half, but have HATED editing any of the settings. I'm too old and my eyes hurt when I try to use the knobs, etc. I want to thank you for this tool, it just plain rocks, and may actually get me to use this pedal in a live setting. I quickly built 5 effects chains and got all goofy having fun with the different pedals.... you have made this a very fun pedal! </endfanboyrant>

I was a happy Zoom B3 user. Now I moved to full Helix. It is really good but I missed the small form factor for small concerts or even as a limited back-up. So I considered to add an MS-60B, but I forgot it when I noticed it does not have an editor. And now I am following this thread and considering again to purchase an MS-60B as a pocket-sized backup for the Helix.

So... thanks in advance!
 
@Tonelib (and everyone else)...

I finally got time to play with the Tonelib application today and these are my initial thoughts after a good few hours of fun (HP notebook running Win10 Home with all updates/patches installed, Zoom B1on running firmware v1.21).

It's good. Really good. In fact, I'd say great. Although I've tinkered around with the B1on, I know I haven't got anything like the best out of it. With Tonelib I've edited quite a few existing patches to get closer to the sounds I'm looking for, and created a handful of new patches from scratch that I'm very happy with. I know I've still got a long way to go before I'm a B1 programming expert, but I do feel like I'm getting there.

That said, I do want to mention three things (and I hope I can explain them properly):
  1. I have an issue with trying to change the order of patches. As far as I can tell, the B1on has no "move" option, only a "swap" option. Say I create/edit patch D4 then want to move it to the A bank so it's quick and easy to select when I want to use it. I can't "move" it to the A bank, I have to "swap" it with a patch that's currently in the A bank. But then something that was in A is now at D4. What if I just want to move D4 so it appears between A7 and A8? D4 becomes the new A8, the existing A8 becomes A9, A9 becomes A0, A0 becomes B1, and so on.

    So, in Tonelib, I tried dragging a patch from one part of the Patch List to another, but it still does a swap, the same as the B1on does. Maybe it's a limitation set by the B1 itself? It would be great if I could "drag and drop" a patch to a new location, and it gets inserted at that point and the list is re-ordered from that point, rather than patches swapping places.

  2. An associated problem I experienced was that when I did move a patch, it swapped locations with another patch, but the description didn't change. For example, if I swapped D4 (Rec Clean) with A8 (Fracture), the name Rec Clean would appear at A8, with the correct effects and settings for Rec Clean, but the description at A8 was still the description of Fracture ("Big heavy rock tone with added distortion in the style of King Crimson's John Wetton."). EDIT: This is as described by @ELynx above.

  3. Sometimes I had trouble using the knobs to adjust parameter settings. I'd click and start turning them, then they'd stop or even start going the back other way. It's handy having the visual representation of the knobs because we all think about values using the knobs and state values such as "3 o'clock", "between 12 and 2" etc. And you can click in the numeric value field and type a new value. But I thought it might be useful if there were up and down arrows next to the numeric value and you could click those to increase or decrease the value.
Finally, like some of the others, if you were seeking donations to keep working on this, I'd be more than happy to contribute.
 
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I finally started using the editor this weekend for my MS-60B, which hadn't been used in a long time since the manual can be a little opaque and trying to edit patches with the little knobs can be frustrating. In virtually no time I was able to reconstruct my old rig's sound going straight into an active cab, and with a little more time was able to get a really good sound going through secondary preamp. So much easier than knobs.

But what really hit me is that I'd never fully understood how the pedal function on the MS-60B worked: at one point while I was editing a combo (ZNR+Hartke clone+EQ), I hit the physical pedal to A/B the bypass sound. That's when I saw on the computer screen that only the EQ, which was currently being edited and was therefore showing on the pedal screen, was turned off--everything else in the chain remained active! I had no idea that if you went directly to one of your patches, stomping on the box only turned off the effect showing on the pedal screen!

Naturally that both helps to ensure I'm using the preset list to cycle between a bypass patch and a programmed patch; but it also opens up the possibility of adding an overdrive or chorus to a favorite everyday patch without having to necessarily create an overdriven version of that patch in a different slot. Just page to the effect in the chain and turn it on or off!

Naturally, these are all things the pedal already did, but @Tonlib just kinda subs in for the manual and makes it a lot more intuitive to understand and use. Thanks Denis!
 
I finally started using the editor this weekend for my MS-60B, which hadn't been used in a long time since the manual can be a little opaque and trying to edit patches with the little knobs can be frustrating. In virtually no time I was able to reconstruct my old rig's sound going straight into an active cab, and with a little more time was able to get a really good sound going through secondary preamp. So much easier than knobs.

But what really hit me is that I'd never fully understood how the pedal function on the MS-60B worked: at one point while I was editing a combo (ZNR+Hartke clone+EQ), I hit the physical pedal to A/B the bypass sound. That's when I saw on the computer screen that only the EQ, which was currently being edited and was therefore showing on the pedal screen, was turned off--everything else in the chain remained active! I had no idea that if you went directly to one of your patches, stomping on the box only turned off the effect showing on the pedal screen!

Naturally that both helps to ensure I'm using the preset list to cycle between a bypass patch and a programmed patch; but it also opens up the possibility of adding an overdrive or chorus to a favorite everyday patch without having to necessarily create an overdriven version of that patch in a different slot. Just page to the effect in the chain and turn it on or off!

Naturally, these are all things the pedal already did, but @Tonlib just kinda subs in for the manual and makes it a lot more intuitive to understand and use. Thanks Denis!
If I remember well, the behaviour of the pedal switch is programable in the settings section of the ms60b so it can switch on off the effect shown on the screen, or scroll.

For me too, the editor changed my perception of what was possible with the ms60b. Even if I was able to program it with the tiny knobs, using the editor and being able to backup the work makes much more worth it to spend time programming it.
 
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