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Frozen sealed tuner question, possible repair or a must replace?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Kirk Bryant, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Ive decided to put my Tobias KB 5 back into the rotation even though it's heavier than the 5 I've been using predominantly for the last couple of years. I immediately realized the A tuner would barely turn. In 50 yrs of playing I've never seen this before. These are sealed tuners, not sure of the brand. I tried loosening the screw on the paddle and nothing. No problems with any others. It's not just a matter of turning it a little harder it is frozen solid. Would heat do anything? I'm guessing there has to be a lubricant inside. They don't look like they can be disassembled, or can they? I haven't removed it from the bass yet. Looking for whether there any possible solutions before take it off and I replace it.
  2. MrBassman17


    Dec 30, 2011
    Brewster, NY
  3. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru.......... Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    My guess it is a Gotoh GB7 variant, right?
  4. MrLenny1


    Jan 17, 2009
    I had one seize on my 23 year old Pedulla.
    Replaced for approx. $15. DIY.
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  5. Jeff your probably on target, not sure they are unmarked. I know its not a big deal or a big expense.
  6. tobias-7-.

    not mine but looks the same
  7. bobcruz


    Mar 10, 2004
    Since it's a goner, if it was mine, I'd try to pry the sealed back off so I could fix it. It would probably leave a few marks from trying to insert a tiny eyeglass screwdriver to pry off the "lid" but so what? When something is a goner, it provides a great learning opportunity and who knows, you might get lucky and be able to repair it. Good luck, Bob
  8. bolophonic


    Dec 10, 2009
    Durham, NC
    Why not get a drop of lubricant in there and fix it?
  9. jaybones

    jaybones Banned

    Mar 4, 2015
    Kelleys Island, Ohio
    If you can't open it and see what's going on inside, I'd take the tuner off, and use a soldering iron to heat the peg. That will let the heat make it's way down to the gear and lube inside without coming from the ears, needing more heat and possibly deforming the synthetic bushing that keeps the lube inside.
    pjcarman likes this.
  10. M.R. Ogle

    M.R. Ogle Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 5, 2004
    Mount Vernon, Illinois
    Backstage Guitar Lab owner
    I love fixing stuff, but just replace it.

    (Then, go ahead and rip the broken one apart and see if you can fix it.... if not, no problem.)
    themarshall and Gaolee like this.
  11. Pretty much already planed what's been said here. Remove, replace, tear apart, fiddle, toss as necessary. Thanks all, we're done here. King, this case is closed. (Only old folks will get that last bit)
  12. I would use a blow dryer to warm it up (off the bass).
    While we're experimenting, put it in a vise and crank on it with pliers.

    But first, I would order a replacement.
    spaz21387 and CGremlin like this.
  13. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    This; always and in all things.

    What do you have to lose if it's already DOA?
    MTFD24 likes this.
  14. CGremlin

    CGremlin Supporting Member

    Nov 1, 2014
    An example of Lowery's Law: "If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway."
  15. M.R. Ogle

    M.R. Ogle Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 5, 2004
    Mount Vernon, Illinois
    Backstage Guitar Lab owner
    There's some GOOD advice here... and some really BAD advice.

    Choose wisely.
  16. jmlee

    jmlee Catgut? Not funny. Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2005
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    The Mounties always get their peg!

  17. snarebear


    Apr 19, 2012
  18. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
    Lately, only on the weekends, it seems...
  19. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
    Obviously, haven't been around me long enough...

    Mounties... only on the weekends... stay with me Jeff...
    Jeff Scott likes this.
  20. MrBassman17


    Dec 30, 2011
    Brewster, NY
    That would be my suggestion as well

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