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Fuming about Yamaha Cust. Service for a minute...

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I don't consider replacing a pickguard with a replacement pickguard (especially from the same manufacturer) to be "modifying" the instrument. The employee probably doesn't know what a pickguard is so all you had to say was "it's not a modification" or something to that effect.

I once called Yamaha customer service because I needed a replacement truss rod wrench and they told me it would take 4 to 5 months because they would have to order it from Japan. They didn't tell me the wrench was just a standard 5mm allen wrench I could buy anywhere. Haha. You're basically calling a warehouse in California with workers who don't know anything about the parts they deal with.
 
Yamaha parts guy in this country was unfortunately unable to supply a replacement neck for my bb435, but was very interested in how I went defretting my current one and was seriously considering doing it to his. (I wanted the replacement in case I wanted to go back to fretted to test out pickups).
I guess there's different scripts in different countries.
 
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Maybe I'm the ass here, but really Yamaha...really?
Yep..... you were. There were so many better ways you could have handled this.

This was the most boomerific op I've seen in a while.
I'm not a boomer..... but comments like yours still bet my back up. So only boomers can be rude to call centre staff?
 
First off, Chris at Yamaha N. American, I apologize. You're just doing your job. My beef is with your "script."

I have been trying to obtain a part number for a replacement pickguard for my Yamaha BB234 bass. I was directed to a parts website; however, you have to use the specific part number to place an order...and there is no "lookup," on the website. I was instructed to call during the week, and someone would be able to get me that part number.
I did just that. Here's how it went:

I was greeted on the phone by Chris, explained why I was calling, and....


Chris: I can give you that information, however Yamaha does not recommend ever modifying your instruments.

Me: Well, that's kind of weird, because EVERYONE (ok, not really everyone) mods their instruments to some extent.
Chris: Anytime you do any kind of modifications, you could damage your instrument.
Me: You realize that you have endorsed artists that take your instruments and drop in Dimarzio, Hipshot, Gotoh, etc. parts, right??
Chris: Well, they are professionals...
(Now I'm getting a little p-d off.)
Me: It is 7 Phillips head screws, and a 1-ply piece of plastic.
Chris: ....
Me: I understand this isn't coming from you, but if that is what Yamaha wants you to tell their consumers, it's pretty condescending.
Chris: I'm not sure I understand...?
Me: You're telling me that Yamaha as a company doesn't think that I can operate a f-ing screwdriver?
Chris: ........*speechless*
Me: Now do you see where I'm going with this?
Chris: I will take your information and have the parts department call you back.
Me: Thank you for your time!

Maybe I'm the ass here, but really Yamaha...really?! God help them if they see all the other modifications, I did to it with non-Yamaha parts...
I think the "but they're professionals" was lame and over all the "Script" is kinda BS.People change pickguards everyday.
 
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Note to the OP: Don't EVER contact any "big corporation" customer service. It won't be good for your health, lol.
 
I don't consider replacing a pickguard with a replacement pickguard (especially from the same manufacturer) to be "modifying" the instrument.
Maybe you don't, but I bet the manufacturer does.
So, if the bass scrapes up against something, and the pickguard gets scratched, and I want to replace it with a new one direct from the manufacturer (not some random third party lookalike guard), that's a "modification", not a "repair"?
 
The dude on the other end of the line is likely being recorded and risks losing his job if he messes up the script or forgets some key line that lets them off the legal hook when you take a hatchet to your bass. Maybe he had Lumbergh and The Bobs standing behind him for an evaluation when you called.

I'm all for being a huge ass when phone jerks call me. But when you call out to a corporation you should be prepared for some corporate BS.
 
First off, Chris at Yamaha N. American, I apologize. You're just doing your job. My beef is with your "script."

I have been trying to obtain a part number for a replacement pickguard for my Yamaha BB234 bass. I was directed to a parts website; however, you have to use the specific part number to place an order...and there is no "lookup," on the website. I was instructed to call during the week, and someone would be able to get me that part number.
I did just that. Here's how it went:

I was greeted on the phone by Chris, explained why I was calling, and....


Chris: I can give you that information, however Yamaha does not recommend ever modifying your instruments.

Me: Well, that's kind of weird, because EVERYONE (ok, not really everyone) mods their instruments to some extent.
Chris: Anytime you do any kind of modifications, you could damage your instrument.
Me: You realize that you have endorsed artists that take your instruments and drop in Dimarzio, Hipshot, Gotoh, etc. parts, right??
Chris: Well, they are professionals...
(Now I'm getting a little p-d off.)
Me: It is 7 Phillips head screws, and a 1-ply piece of plastic.
Chris: ....
Me: I understand this isn't coming from you, but if that is what Yamaha wants you to tell their consumers, it's pretty condescending.
Chris: I'm not sure I understand...?
Me: You're telling me that Yamaha as a company doesn't think that I can operate a f-ing screwdriver?
Chris: ........*speechless*
Me: Now do you see where I'm going with this?
Chris: I will take your information and have the parts department call you back.
Me: Thank you for your time!

Maybe I'm the ass here, but really Yamaha...really?! God help them if they see all the other modifications, I did to it with non-Yamaha parts...

Commence MBA training reinstall...

Me: Yamaha not wanting their instruments upgraded or enhanced probably stems from a warranty mitigation issue, I had a different but similar situation when the propane company checked my tank, they turned the valve on but told me I would have to turn it off since they're not allowed to turn it off. I pondered that for a minute or two and then I figured it was probably a risk mitigation issue and they are mitigating any possibility of liability.

Working at a call center is tone of those "worst jobs you could possibly think of." I have heard that from more than several people... I think the problem is that they can't or are not allowed to explain process decisions. After all they're only minimum wage employees and process decisions are outside their pay grade and they're probably completely ignorant of the decisions behind those process "improvements."

Try making a similar call to an automobile manufacturer and start asking about modifications to their new products coming off the line and how it would affect the warranty and you will probably get the same or very similar responses.

Call centers...
Call a good tech instead.

Blame it on Demming.
 
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