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G aug diad?

muthagoose

muthagoose

Jan 18, 2004
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#1
First of all I would like to start of by saying hi, since this is my first post on this board. I usually post at the bass guitar(!) section of Link Removed, a site which I'm quite sure some of you are familiar with. I'm looking forward to becoming an active member of these forums and I'm hoping I will learn alot from this place, and maybe even contribute in some way every once in a while :)

To top it off here's some short info about me; I'm from Sweden and I'm 19 years old, been playing bass a little over a year now and I'm loving every minute of it :)

Anyways, on to my question.

I saw somebody asking what notes a Gaug diad where made of, and I assumed that this would be a chord built out of 2nds, as opposed to the use of 3rds in triads, and it being an Augmented chord, consisted of the notes G, A, B, the root + a major 2nd + a major 2nd. But apparently this wasn't the case, so now I'm wondering exactly what a diad is and how you build chords with them.

Sorry about this being a bit long, but I didn't want to make a separate thread just to introduce myself ;)
 
#2
Well generally a diad is the equivalent of what would be a two note chord in other terms(worded carefully so as to avoid a dumb argument again ;)

I've never seen a Gaug Diad, but I can say with some certainty that it would be simply a G and a D#

D# being an augmented 5th above G.
 
#8
Lovebown said:
In the real world of music you wont really run into a "G augmented diad".

The term "G aug diad" as a chord symbol or term, does not, as far as I know, exist.

/lovebown
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I agree entirely.

If what's meant is simply G + D#, then that's just an augmented 5th interval, and there's no need to invoke the term diad (actually spelled dyad). An interval involves two pitches by definition.
 
#11
G aug is a chord.

The term "diad" is not wrong, but it's really unusual. Maybe it's a common term in Sweden.

The distance between two notes is usually called an interval, but then you'd also say what the interval is. Simply saying Gaug implies a major triad with an augmented fifth (G,B,D#). If you were only playing the root G and the D#, we'd call the interval an augmented fifth.
 
#12
Nope it's not a common term in Sweden, not in my side of the country at least ;)

What I've learnt is that a G and a D# (for instace) played at the same time, as if it were a chord, is an interval played harmonically. An interval played melodically is thus played one after another.

The only reason I could see why you'd want to call a G and D# something other than an harmonic interval is if you'd write it as a chord symbol. On the other hand, G and D# isn't a chord, so you'd probably be better off writing the interval out in notation and skip the symbol.

/lovebown
 
#13
Lovebown said:
Nope it's not a common term in Sweden, not in my side of the country at least ;)

What I've learnt is that a G and a D# (for instace) played at the same time, as if it were a chord, is an interval played harmonically. An interval played melodically is thus played one after another.

The only reason I could see why you'd want to call a G and D# something other than an harmonic interval is if you'd write it as a chord symbol. On the other hand, G and D# isn't a chord, so you'd probably be better off writing the interval out in notation and skip the symbol.

/lovebown
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While I've never heard it calle a "G aug Diad", I've seen this figure more than a few times in the chord symbols written over tabs in "PowerChord Rock". It usually follows a regular power chord, and often resolves up to a a Ma6th, and sometimes goes up to a mi7th, as in Zeppelin's "Kashmir" (if my addled memory serves):

D5....D+5....D6....D7..... (all in "power chord" notation)
 
#14
I'm sure you have seen that Chris, but the "rules" of notation and so forth doesen't really seem to apply to these "transcriptions" you mention. IMO, they aren't really theoretically correct, but rather written as such that rock guitarists who don't know standard notation and generally don't fully understand chord symbols will be able to play the tune. My experience with the crowd that these books (rock transcriptions , mainly) are targetted towards is they don't give a **** if they don't know what's going on theoretically , as long as they're able to play the tune as performed by the original artist.

If they write out root(D) a major 6th like D6, I'd like to see how they write out the true D6 chord which is a major triad and an added 6th?

/lovebown


Edit: Please completely cover up all swears. Thank you.
Joe
 
#15
Blackbird said:
G aug is a chord.

The term "diad" is not wrong, but it's really unusual. Maybe it's a common term in Sweden.

The distance between two notes is usually called an interval, but then you'd also say what the interval is. Simply saying Gaug implies a major triad with an augmented fifth (G,B,D#). If you were only playing the root G and the D#, we'd call the interval an augmented fifth.
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No, it's not a common term in sweden :p

I know that a G augmented chord is made up of G B D#, that's not what I'm having trouble with understanding. I'm just looking for an explanation of what a 'diad' is, something that maybe wasn't too clear in my first post :)
 
#17
Although i'd never write it down as some kind of "chord symbol", i see nothing wrong with "g aug diad" as a term.

The word diad isnt all that common to us bassplayers(prefering double stops), but its a fairly common term in a guitarists vocab

Just because its a "G aug diad", it doesnt mean that you're specifying the tonality of G augmented. It'd be much more comon for a guitarist to play that particular diad over chords like Emi(maj7), A7#11, Ami7b5, Abmaj7 even something cheesey like Ebmaj(unless of course they're power-chord hacks - james bond theme)

So although i'd never write it out, imo its perfectly legit tool for communicating a desired sound to fellow bandmembers/musicians
 
#18
A "gaug" - pronounced "Gorg" - is a mythical creature existing only in hyperspace, that trawls musical discussion forums looking for arguements on which to replenlish it's evil energy. The most poplular disagreements and tension words it can sniff out several thousand links away are as follows:

1) whether a diad is a chord or not
2) whether you should use a pick on bass or not
3) any mention of Flea or Fieldy combined with the words player, bass, world's and greatest
4) differences in opinion over chord symbols, such as #11th or b5th

The otehr real disadvantage of the Gorg is that Trolls tend to feed on it's left overs.
 

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