G&L Club Part 6

[MarkoYYZ]

It's funny how different peoples tastes are. I always hated The look of Musicman's pick guards., where as evident here other people love them.

I was never a big fan either, and especially don't like the banana shaped control plate on Stingrays. The bodies are too big as well, so a Sterling style would be the only option for me.

That said, I learned a long time ago in business that the correct mix of product to offer to the public breaks down as follows:

1/3 what you love
1/3 what you sorta like
1/3 what you hate

From there, you will have something for everyone.

 

[Soundchaser11460]

I was never a big fan either, and especially don't like the banana shaped control plate on Stingrays. The bodies are too big as well, so a Sterling style would be the only option for me.

That said, I learned a long time ago in business that the correct mix of product to offer to the public breaks down as follows:

1/3 what you love
1/3 what you sorta like
1/3 what you hate

From there, you will have something for everyone.

+1000

 

[jefff100]

It's funny how different peoples tastes are. I always hated The look of Musicman's pick guards., where as evident here other people love them.

I have a stingray 5 that I wasnt overly fond of the PG on when I bought it, however I loved the woodgrain and I like Stingray basses. The nice thing about pickguards is that you can always make a custom pickguard and install it, do no damage to the bass and it can completely transform the character of the instrument. If you go to sell the bass, it can be removed and the original re-installed.

Witness my Stingray with before and after:

Before:

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After:

 

[strost]

Forgive me if this has been asked and answer (I searched here and google and found no good answer).

Can anyone tell me the difference in terms of tone between an SB-1 and an LB-100? I know the MFDs are hotter and louder but what does that really mean? Are they fatter? What about mids? Lows? Highs? Semi-high mid-lows?

Specifically I'm thinking about a fretless P-style bass and would, of course, play flats. I am mostly looking for that old school phat funk/soul sound.

Thanks!
Steve

 

[BackonBass13]

You won't regret the M2500, have one, and love it.

 

[fourstringdrums]

Forgive me if this has been asked and answer (I searched here and google and found no good answer).

Can anyone tell me the difference in terms of tone between an SB-1 and an LB-100? I know the MFDs are hotter and louder but what does that really mean? Are they fatter? What about mids? Lows? Highs? Semi-high mid-lows?

Specifically I'm thinking about a fretless P-style bass and would, of course, play flats. I am mostly looking for that old school phat funk/soul sound.

Thanks!
Steve

The SB-1 is more aggressive. I suck at describing tone, but I'd say that has more high mids, a little brighter and there is more "grind" to the tone. But that being said it can be tamed fairly well. I'd say the SB-1 is a modern take on the P bass and the LB-100 is the classic take. If you're looking for old school, go with the LB-100.

 

[mpdd]

i played the sb-2 last night at a day of the dead party with newish hi beams, it's more focused and brighter than my pbass was, but you can get pretty p similar if you turn the neck pu down to the 50% area and you use more settled in strings

 

[strost]

The SB-1 is more aggressive. I suck at describing tone, but I'd say that has more high mids, a little brighter and there is more "grind" to the tone. But that being said it can be tamed fairly well. I'd say the SB-1 is a modern take on the P bass and the LB-100 is the classic take. If you're looking for old school, go with the LB-100.

Thanks! Sounds like LB-100 is the way to go. Not sure I'm looking for "aggressive".

I'd go for an SB-2 if it had tone control. Maybe I'll investigate modding one (or, more accurately, having someone else mod it).

 

[dcarwin]

Thanks! Sounds like LB-100 is the way to go. Not sure I'm looking for "aggressive".

I'd go for an SB-2 if it had tone control. Maybe I'll investigate modding one (or, more accurately, having someone else mod it).

SB-1 mfd pickups are hotter. More mids of all kinds, less high end.

 

[mpdd]

supposedly this guy is playing an sb-2, or at least he's playing one in the video

 

[strost]

supposedly this guy is playing an sb-2, or at least he's playing one in the video



Phat tone.

 

[dburd68]

Just picked this up on eBay and expected the screw on plate with the serial number. Since this is my first G&L, I wanted you guys to confirm this serial number and application. Is it right for this 2012 G&L?
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[StuartV]

Thanks! Sounds like LB-100 is the way to go. Not sure I'm looking for "aggressive".

I'd go for an SB-2 if it had tone control. Maybe I'll investigate modding one (or, more accurately, having someone else mod it).

You can make an SB-1 or SB-2 sound just like an LB-100, but you can't make an LB-100 sound like an SB. On the SB, if you just roll the P pickup back to somewhere between 80 and 50%, it sounds just like a regular, old school P bass. With the SB-2, you need to add a Tone control to cover all the P/LB-100 bases.

If I were looking at a choice of a Fender P, or a G&L LB-100, SB-1, or SB-2, I would absolutely go SB-2 every time. It can give you anything any of those others can, plus more, that the others can't. As I said, that's if you add a Tone control.

You can add a Tone control for about $10 - 15 worth of parts and roughly 30 minutes of labor. And the modification is fully reversible.

I did this to my SB-2. Actually, I spent an extra $5 or 10. I preserved the individual volume controls for the 2 pickups and added a Master Volume and a Tone to mine. Now, it can still produce all the same sounds it could when it was stock. But, the Tone lets me do the serious P Thump thing, too.

And, like I said, it's still totally reversible to put it back to bone stock with no sign it was ever modified - because I used 2 stacked pots. Not that I would ever put it back to stock. My SB-2 is the last 4-stringer I will ever let go. It's only second in my herd to my EBMM Sterling 5 H.

You can check out this thread if you want to see for yourself that an SB-2 can do EXACTLY a traditional P sound.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/p-vs-p-like-can-you-tell-difference-838140/

 

[mpdd]

day of the dead party, hell-o, number 2, and covered wagons

i'm playing the sb-2 with hell-o, this was before the wardrobe malfunction, mesa d180 > orange 115s

 

[jmlee]

I'm looking at buying a new LB-100 and would like to put a Raven Labs PBR-1 Preamp that I have on my bench shelf into it. The question I have is whether the inter-pot distance (which is fixed on the PBR-1) will fit the existing pick guard on the LB-100. Anyone on this list have an LB-100 that they'd be willing to take a quick measurement from? It'd be much appreciated.

Answered my own question via image analysis software and a photo of the LB-100. The pots appear to be 2 inches apart on centre, just as on my '68 P-bass. Ergo, the Raven Labs preamp would fit--as would any other such critter I suppose.

 

[strost]

You can make an SB-1 or SB-2 sound just like an LB-100, but you can't make an LB-100 sound like an SB. On the SB, if you just roll the P pickup back to somewhere between 80 and 50%, it sounds just like a regular, old school P bass. With the SB-2, you need to add a Tone control to cover all the P/LB-100 bases.

If I were looking at a choice of a Fender P, or a G&L LB-100, SB-1, or SB-2, I would absolutely go SB-2 every time. It can give you anything any of those others can, plus more, that the others can't. As I said, that's if you add a Tone control.

You can add a Tone control for about $10 - 15 worth of parts and roughly 30 minutes of labor. And the modification is fully reversible.

I did this to my SB-2. Actually, I spent an extra $5 or 10. I preserved the individual volume controls for the 2 pickups and added a Master Volume and a Tone to mine. Now, it can still produce all the same sounds it could when it was stock. But, the Tone lets me do the serious P Thump thing, too.

And, like I said, it's still totally reversible to put it back to bone stock with no sign it was ever modified - because I used 2 stacked pots. Not that I would ever put it back to stock. My SB-2 is the last 4-stringer I will ever let go. It's only second in my herd to my EBMM Sterling 5 H.

You can check out this thread if you want to see for yourself that an SB-2 can do EXACTLY a traditional P sound.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/p-vs-p-like-can-you-tell-difference-838140/

Very helpful. Thanks!

 

[mr.mow]

Hmm..
I have an LB100, SB2 and a Custom Shop 59 Pbass..

While the LB100 and the PBass sound really similar, I can't get the SB2 to sound all that PBassish, similar.. But It really has its own thing going on, yeah turning the pickup down to 70/50% does give a Pbass tone, But its very different.

 

[Mastermold]

day of the dead party, hell-o, number 2, and covered wagons

i'm playing the sb-2 with hell-o, this was before the wardrobe malfunction, mesa d180 > orange 115s

All I see is a girl ...

 

[mpdd]

that's why she's there, she makes up for a lot of mistakes and miscues

 

[Douvi]

Just picked this up on eBay and expected the screw on plate with the serial number. Since this is my first G&L, I wanted you guys to confirm this serial number and application. Is it right for this 2012 G&L?]

2012 sounds right to me. I bought an ASAT in that same finish right when they came out in July 2012. Nice.