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G&L Club Part 6

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Oh yes... this is a beast !! I tried it today & its completely awesome.

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One off cutaway L-2500 a total beauty wow. It is heavy dont get me wrong, its noticeably thicker. The tone is fantastic wow. Great aggression that my Sterling HH Mahogany doesn't get. Its got a great top end, beautiful treble response without being overly zingy, sweet at Kjung would say. Fantastic lows & very present mids. I was the first to open the box. Its minty fresh. They said they had a ton of interest in it already, its only been at the shop 2 days.

Its available on at this store

http://www.performancemusiccenter.com/

Cool stuff, was a total treat to play it. I personally have a bass that looks just like it so I may special order my own regular L2500 later.

After trying this ^^^^^ I've caught the bug !
 
Great to hear that this simple "trick" works for you. I also was quite surprised that it made way more than just a subtle change. For a config in which either inner or outer coil pole pieces are pulled/adjusted, one can increase the effect a bit by also tilting the whole pup.

That P + reverse P thing you see in my L2K actually happens to be the best config in terms of balancing coils because there is also perfect geometric balance (with both pups active), but that was not the rationale. I'm still trying different configs to see what makes the most balanced mix for the different pickup selector settings.

In general, removing/adjusting pole pieces will be less prone to hum&buzz than any kind of coil splitting (within the same pup or accross pups), be it a full short or a partial short with that OMG capacitor...
... speaking of which, you can also run OMG mode with complete pickups...

I did a search yesterday and found a few folks on guitar forums who raise one set of poles for a single-ish tone, but it seem to be fairly unusual. I suppose pulling all the poles from one or the other sides, in effect, gives you a single coil pickup with a phantom coil.

I may skip the OMG switch altogether now and do K type switching instead (or maybe just series/single). The pole adjustment better accomplishes what I wanted to do with the OMG switch (single-ish tone from soloed pickups without much hum). I really don't want that percieved bass boost anyway. For me the purpose of the hybrid split vs a full split is simply to reduce hum when using a pickup by itself.

I'll have to draw it out to be sure but am thinking I can do series/single switching for 3 pickups using a single 2 position 4PDT switch. I would cut the bridge side coil on the bridge pickup and the neck side coil on both the middle and neck pickups (so either could be paired with the bridge and hum cancel in single mode).

The other benefit of raising poles on one side (observed on another forum) is that there would be less output drop when switching to single coil mode.
 
Cleaning up the new tribby today... going to put on a fairly new set of Slinkys & then when they are cooked move on to a Rotosound Swing Steels I have. I want this thing to be my aggressive go to bass but I'll need to play it for a while before it can make it to a gig over my Bongo HH5 & limited edition Sterling HH5 Mahogany (Both warmer basses)
 
Cleaning up the new tribby today... going to put on a fairly new set of Slinkys & then when they are cooked move on to a Rotosound Swing Steels I have. I want this thing to be my aggressive go to bass but I'll need to play it for a while before it can make it to a gig over my Bongo HH5 & limited edition Sterling HH5 Mahogany (Both warmer basses)

Congrats on the new bass!

Pics????

Rotos with the MFD pickups should be very aggressive indeed.
 
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I suppose pulling all the poles from one or the other sides, in effect, gives you a single coil pickup with a phantom coil.
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I took my L-1500 to rehersal space today to check new string (DR Hi-Beams) and while was at it, I thought I'd do a comparison of true SC vs pulled poles "SC" (PPSC?).

Yes, there is a difference, true single-coil definitely has more top-end sparkle and is less nasal, at the cost of much higher hum. In a studio situation where hum can hopefully be controlled, true SC (or any kind of OMG) has it's place, I would think.

The L-1500 is mid-heavy so the bass boost of OMG is welcome. To have access to it, besides the stock parallel/series modes, I installed an on-off-on switch which puts different caps accross the neck coil (100nF), the bridge coil (330nF), or none at all in the center position for full humbucking series mode. In parallel mode it does nothing. I put away with the preamp, I never use(d) it on any of my G&L's. Sounded quite good, overall. Two new and useful sounds with different harmonics/timbre added to the L-1500.

Again the adjustable pole pieces were excellent to match (percieved) output levels between settings.:)
 
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Well Well, what do we have here? I thought I bought a black Tribute last night but its a Blueburst! Sweet !:bassist: Thing is in great condition. Born on date 1103, March 2011. Thats pretty new

Doing my setup now... the truss is WAY off with a new pair of strings... I've adjusted a fair amount & I'm going to let it settle over night before i go at it again.
Can't wait to hear it

EDIT: Its still off but playable so I gave it a whirl. Sounds great, really awesome. Not NEARLY as aggressive as my Maple ASAT. This has much more useable warm tones. I like the L2500 tone better as an overall bass but I really like that super in your face tone of the ASAT too. I'm sure the rosewood vs maple is playing a part in it as well as not a new set of strings. My neck strings will DEFINITELY be steels, I'm looking for a super clear cutting tone to contrast what I have but the beauty is this bass can get way more tones out of it than I imagined.

Passive: Really gives it a rounder P bass punch than active with the same EQ, a little volume decline as with the ASAT. I can't roll off the bass at all or the volume goes fast... no problem, it sounds great as is.
Series\Parallel: Its funny that G&L states series (bass boost) parallel (bass cut) I dont hear it exactly that way... I prefer to use series (non-scooped) parallel (scooped) Series has more mids, aggression & a bit more of volume. I've found this true on my old Ernie ball Reflex & current Sterling 5 HH as well. Parallel is where I go to for a warmer, rounder tone.
Active with treble boost: I really like the points they use. Its got just enough zing to be clear & aggressive without zingy or with excessive finger noise.
Pickup selector: Make a huge difference in the tone & I love where the pickup are & what they both bring to the table... not so with my Sterling HH, I rarely solo the neck pickup, its in a better location on the G&L.

Cons: Heavy as a bastard, gotta be 10.4 oz. Would love a mid knob. Scratchy pots

Other pros: Solid neck, feels great, fast. Strings through. Better balance than ASAT, EVERY bass should have series\parallel. Tonal variety !!!!

Pots were a bit scratchy but not too bad. Tuners needed some tightening but are moving smooth & holding strong so far. This was a great buy, I'm really happy with it... I've tried a bunch of stuff at a $400 used\new price point & this blows them all away.
 
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Well Well, what do we have here? I thought I bought a black Tribute last night but its a Blueburst! Sweet !:bassist: ...

Cons: Heavy as a bastard, gotta be 10.4 oz. Would love a mid knob. Scratchy pots

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Cool!!!

I think my Blueburst/Maple weighs about the same as yours. My Amber/Rosewood L-2500 Tribute is about a pound heavier. The Amber bass has scratchy pots too. I've tried cleaning them to no avail...gotta order some pots from G&L so I can play this thing again.
 
These pots are killers, fine as a practice instrument for a different sound. My main gigging basses will be my Bongo 5 HH & Sterling 5 HH for sure. IF a USA G&L L2500 Flake finish & maple neck pops up cheap I may grab that & sell this. Will be happy in the meantime !
 
I did a search yesterday and found a few folks on guitar forums who raise one set of poles for a single-ish tone, but it seem to be fairly unusual. I suppose pulling all the poles from one or the other sides, in effect, gives you a single coil pickup with a phantom coil.

I may skip the OMG switch altogether now and do K type switching instead (or maybe just series/single). The pole adjustment better accomplishes what I wanted to do with the OMG switch (single-ish tone from soloed pickups without much hum). I really don't want that percieved bass boost anyway. For me the purpose of the hybrid split vs a full split is simply to reduce hum when using a pickup by itself.

I'll have to draw it out to be sure but am thinking I can do series/single switching for 3 pickups using a single 2 position 4PDT switch. I would cut the bridge side coil on the bridge pickup and the neck side coil on both the middle and neck pickups (so either could be paired with the bridge and hum cancel in single mode).

The other benefit of raising poles on one side (observed on another forum) is that there would be less output drop when switching to single coil mode.

I find the pole-raising and interesting approach to single coil. I've got the K-mod on all my G&L basses but one problem with it is that there is a certain amount of "leakage" between the two halves of the pickup. So that when you are in single coil mode, there still is some pickup from the switched-off poles. Still it gives a pretty nice sinle coil sound even with the leakage. And there is no hum unless you solo one of the pickups.

Raising poles (or ever better removing them from the unused side) is obviously a way to eliminate the single coil leakage and still keep the single coil pickup hum-free. The only down side that ruins it for me is then you can't go back to the agressive MFD humbucker mode.

I can see the idea of the phantom coil single coil pickup as great for a whole new bass with three those pickups. It would't be a L2x00 but it just might be killer cool as it's own thing!
 
I did a search yesterday and found a few folks on guitar forums who raise one set of poles for a single-ish tone, but it seem to be fairly unusual. I suppose pulling all the poles from one or the other sides, in effect, gives you a single coil pickup with a phantom coil.

I may skip the OMG switch altogether now and do K type switching instead (or maybe just series/single). The pole adjustment better accomplishes what I wanted to do with the OMG switch (single-ish tone from soloed pickups without much hum). I really don't want that percieved bass boost anyway. For me the purpose of the hybrid split vs a full split is simply to reduce hum when using a pickup by itself.

I'll have to draw it out to be sure but am thinking I can do series/single switching for 3 pickups using a single 2 position 4PDT switch. I would cut the bridge side coil on the bridge pickup and the neck side coil on both the middle and neck pickups (so either could be paired with the bridge and hum cancel in single mode).

The other benefit of raising poles on one side (observed on another forum) is that there would be less output drop when switching to single coil mode.

I find the pole-raising and interesting approach to single coil. I've got the K-mod on all my G&L basses but one problem with it is that there is a certain amount of "leakage" between the two halves of the pickup. So that when you are in single coil mode, there still is some pickup from the switched-off poles. Still it gives a pretty nice sinle coil soud even with the leakage. And there is no hum unless you solo one of the pickups.

Raising poles (or ever better removing them from the unused side) is obviously a way to eliminate the single coil leakage and still keep the single coil pickup hum-free. The only down side that ruins it for me is then you can't go back to the agressive MFD humbucker mode.

I can see the idea of the phantom coil single coil pickup as great for a whole new bass with three those pickups. It would't be a L2x00 but it just might be killer cool as it's own thing!
 
I find the pole-raising and interesting approach to single coil. I've got the K-mod on all my G&L basses but one problem with it is that there is a certain amount of "leakage" between the two halves of the pickup. So that when you are in single coil mode, there still is some pickup from the switched-off poles. Still it gives a pretty nice sinle coil soud even with the leakage. And there is no hum unless you solo one of the pickups.

Raising poles (or ever better removing them from the unused side) is obviously a way to eliminate the single coil leakage and still keep the single coil pickup hum-free. The only down side that ruins it for me is then you can't go back to the agressive MFD humbucker mode.

I can see the idea of the phantom coil single coil pickup as great for a whole new bass with three those pickups. It would't be a L2x00 but it just might be killer cool as it's own thing!

Where does the leakage from the switched-out coil occur? If the switching is done correctly, there should be no leakage path, so current should not flow from the disconnected coil.

Removing poles simply narrows the sensing aperture, focusing on a smaller portion of the string. There's still a mile of wire to drive, only now you're driving it with less electromotive force because you've reduced the magnetic field strength. I'm not saying it's a poor choice, it just doesn't emulate true single-coil very well. At best it emulates split-coil, which it cool in itself, or dual coil with a narrow aperture.
 
Sweet!

I love that grain and the Baltic Amber PG really sets it off.

Happy New Bass Day!!!:bassist:

Thank you NWB I appreciate it!! I haven't taken the protective cover off of the Pickguard yet lol, probably won't until it starts peeling away.

I actually just got done conditioning the fretboard and setting the bass up to my liking. Only one thing left to do... Go get funky!
 
Thank you NWB I appreciate it!! I haven't taken the protective cover off of the Pickguard yet lol, probably won't until it starts peeling away.

I actually just got done conditioning the fretboard and setting the bass up to my liking. Only one thing left to do... Go get funky!

YES!! That's really the point of buying a bass!

I'd be taking that cover off the pick guard. It might be more difficult to remove later, and the amber color will really pop out when you get rid of the covering.
 
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