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I have a 2021 Fullerton Deluxe JB gloss black with a rosewood board that plays great.
Why comment on something you lack any knowledge of. Due to it's unique body shape, ASAT balance is a matter of each instrument's particular body weight vs neck weight NOT it's total weight. Also, how a particular one balances has nothing to do with a solid vs semi-hollow body. In fact, most of my semi-hollow ASAT's were the best balanced, including my fretless semi-hollow B5 (recently sold). Didn't need my 4" strap for any of them. The B5's single strap button is on center like most instruments, unlike other ASAT's. IMO that's how all ASAT's should be. I've owned 6 solids, 4 semi-hollows plus the B5fl. Still have a semi with a killer quartersawn neck reworked by Mike Lull; it came with a second ebony fretless birdseye maple neck that lives on my Lynx.
Since it's my birthday weekend, here's a fun pic taken on my Dojangs floor circa 2006. All Leo's across the bottom; two on stage left since the mid-70's.
Most, unfortunately are history.
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How do the Japanese Premium L-2500 compare to the Indonesian tributes?
Worth a 400 dollar upgrade?
Worth a 400 dollar upgrade?
- Aug 21, 2003
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These were my ASAT's.
The Leo Fender Signature fretless (1989) was a boat anchor. No neck dive at all.
However, the 2004 semi-hollow was neck-dive ill, because the body was too light, and switching between the two strap-buttons at the bottom was useless to alleviate that.
I never tried the strap button extender, that was known as 'the' solution at a time...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/homebrew-g-l-asat-strap-button-extender-994333/
k6jca.blogspot.com
The Leo Fender Signature fretless (1989) was a boat anchor. No neck dive at all.
However, the 2004 semi-hollow was neck-dive ill, because the body was too light, and switching between the two strap-buttons at the bottom was useless to alleviate that.
I never tried the strap button extender, that was known as 'the' solution at a time...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/homebrew-g-l-asat-strap-button-extender-994333/
Homebrew Horn Strap-button Extender for the G&L ASAT Bass
This is not my typical blog post, but it's a problem I recently became interested in, and others might find it useful. Being a lefty, i...
k6jca.blogspot.com
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Aardvaarks Sport Awesome Trousers...duh!
Shorthand for anti satellite missile. I guess Leo was a fan of military references.
Actually, his is correct for the most part. The guys in the G&L custom shop would not build me a 5 string ASAT due to neck dive concerns. That is why they stopped producing them. There are not many in circulation but there are a few.
I'm OCD on weights and measurements (especially G&L) and due to wanting various fretless/fretted G&L pairs, for years I've swapped a load of G&L necks around, many between models. I've learned some things about neck dive, especially after 11 ASAT's.
G&L gave you an excuse not to build; that doesn't mean it was the actual reason and I seriously doubt that it was. You already know when dealing with G&L we take whatever they claim with a boat anchor of salt. The B5 isn't in their CNR file so they wouldn't make much, if any, profit in building one. They didn't "stop producing them", they were never offered in the lineup. The very few made (5 known, the semi-hollow and a P/J are rarest) were all done for spec bassists. I have pics of them and am internet pals with a couple owners. Memo is clueless about their existence. For me, an over-riding issue with any ASAT bass isn't neck dive- the body style puts the fingerboard almost two frets further away than other body styles, similar to a T-Bird. It messes with ones muscle memory if you frequently switch instruments and is especially cruel on fretless intonation. Years ago I didn't care for Asatman's strap extender, although it worked well on the 3-bolters. Somebody please re-introduce those.
Ah Jugghaid, you surrender so easily. One must first master persistence prior to mastering perseverance.
Here's the one I sold a few weeks ago:
For sale G&L ASAT B5 Semi-hollow Fretless + Fretted Necks, $300 off with single neck.
Reduced to $3500 or $3200 with your choice of one neck.
This is the only semi-hollow ASAT B5 made out of the handful constructed, said to be 4-5 total with one of them a P/J. Gorgeous quilt maple transparent orange top, white binding, thick ebony board, OHSC. Coil switch is 2-way. She sounds...
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I know there are a couple out there, but I'm gonna have to go by what the guys in the Custom shop tell me. I have had them build me instruments before and they have also been willing to do quite a bit of off spec stuff that I didn't have them complete. They (not Memo) flat out said no on this one, regardless of price, based on neck dive and neck dive alone. I think their exact response (through my dealer) was "Well, if he wants a balsa wood neck it might work, but no. We won't build it".I'm OCD on weights and measurements (especially G&L) and due to wanting various fretless/fretted G&L pairs, for years I've swapped a load of G&L necks around, many between models. I've learned some things about neck dive, especially after 11 ASAT's.
G&L gave you an excuse not to build; that doesn't mean it was the actual reason and I seriously doubt that it was. You already know when dealing with G&L we take whatever they claim with a boat anchor of salt. The B5 isn't in their CNR file so they wouldn't make much, if any, profit in building one. They didn't "stop producing them", they were never offered in the lineup. The very few made (5 known, the semi-hollow and a P/J are rarest) were all done for spec bassists. I have pics of them and am internet pals with a couple owners. Memo is clueless about their existence. For me, an over-riding issue with any ASAT bass isn't neck dive- the body style puts the fingerboard almost two frets further away than other body styles, similar to a T-Bird. It messes with ones muscle memory if you frequently switch instruments and is especially cruel on fretless intonation. Years ago I didn't care for Asatman's strap extender, although it worked well on the 3-bolters. Somebody please re-introduce those.
Ah Jugghaid, you surrender so easily. One must first master persistence prior to mastering perseverance.
Here's the one I sold a few weeks ago:
For sale G&L ASAT B5 Semi-hollow Fretless + Fretted Necks, $300 off with single neck.
Reduced to $3500 or $3200 with your choice of one neck. This is the only semi-hollow ASAT B5 made out of the handful constructed, said to be 4-5 total with one of them a P/J. Gorgeous quilt maple transparent orange top, white binding, thick ebony board, OHSC. Coil switch is 2-way. She sounds...
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Who are M fans?
I'm totally digging running my M with mids cut all the way, adding a touch of highs and the lows flat.
I love that tone in a very tight environment, if it's a real busy mix I just slowly dial the mids from the cut point.
MFDs have more than enough mids for me.
I'm totally digging running my M with mids cut all the way, adding a touch of highs and the lows flat.
I love that tone in a very tight environment, if it's a real busy mix I just slowly dial the mids from the cut point.
MFDs have more than enough mids for me.
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They do and to be honest I don't blame them. At the end of the day, it's their name at the end of the headstock.
Anything to "different" so to speak could reflect negatively on the brand.
Truer G&L words have never been spoken. Kudos Tony, most musicians have little understanding of "frequency assigning" in recording and fewer still apply the concept live. Lower/mid midrange is a thick, swampy battlefield. Frequency assigning is the greatest tool my recording engineer uncle taught me long ago after he studied recording with a couple of Detroit's finest. Dayum, he owned a sweet Scully recorder. While I love all my G&L fretted/fretless pairs, my M is the only G&L that can accomplish it onboard. An M-2000 fretless to mate with my fretted is the only G&L I covet. Likely buy a 6-bolt unlined fretless from any model when one comes up and swap the neck. That bass, fretless, with it's mid boost/cut control, would seriously kill. May prove to be the best G&L fretless of all.
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One right here. I've also owned an L2500 and a Kiloton. I've sold both. My M2000 remains as my favorite and most versatile bass. I also know exactly what you're talking about via cutting the mids. It's a very unique tonality peculiar to that bass and I like it too. Thanks for sharing that Tony.
