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G&L Club Part 7

My experience has been identical to yours, so I'm not convinced that it isn't some inherent design issue. And yeah, the only way for me to get any low end is to EQ some in there. Not ideal, but the bass plays really well and I like the slap tone, so it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Yeah, me too I guess.:meh: It is a pleasure to play and the tone is really good with the extra bottom dialed in. Could certainly be worse—especially for the money in the Trib series. If I got this same response with a significantly more expensive US-made instrument I'd be less pleased for sure.
 
Update: Just had a look inside my Trib JB-2. Wiring is correct, if a little oddly configured. Both pickups read about 6 kohm: neck 5.95, bridge 6.12. They are hum-cancelling, so oriented correctly. Still, with the pickups up high (but not dampening the strings), the bottom end is just not there. :bored:

Anybody got any idea what else I could check? Poor magnetization?

All I know is when I had a Tribute JB-2 and wasn't happy with the pickups, I swapped in Dimarzio Model J's and it became a beast. Lots of low end and more output.

If you do this swap, you'll need 2 neck pickups because, on the Tribute it has 2 of the small sized jazz pickups.
 
Uh oh..... look what followed me home :bassist:
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I just can't believe that @armyadarkness hasn't pounced on me for coming home with a four stringer, yet! :roflmao:
 
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Oh no..... I hadn't heard that. I hope that can be soon rectified.

Looking at the website this all I see as far as body wood options. No Empress option. It would seem that Basswood may be the current lightweight sub option.

BODY WOOD SUBSTITUTION FOR ALDER
Swamp Ash For models and colors which come standard with Alder, Swamp Ash may be specified.
ORDER CODE: ASH
Lightweight American Basswood For solid colors, Lightweight American Basswood may be specified.
ORDER CODE: BAS
Okoume For models and colors which come standard with Alder, Okoume may be specified.
ORDER CODE: OKU
 
I just can't believe that @armyadarkness hasn't pounced on me for coming home with a four stringer, yet! :roflmao:
I know that your heart is set on a 5, but I also know that you're back is against the wall.

A 4 in the hand is better than a 5 in the bush... If G&L had announced an official release of an SB or LB 5, then you could've made a more informed decision to wait... but @craigb will tell you what I always say... Once you decide to get a piece of gear, a ball is set in motion that will not stop rolling until it is satisfied.

You've had your eye set on an SB for awhile now, and while it's not what you specifically wanted, I actually prefer the route that you took. Not because it's a 4... heck, it's not my bass, but because this way you can see if you like the SB platform before you put a ton of time and money into a custom build.

I may be a sarcastic, know it all, North Jersey Italian, but I pay attention to my pals and their needs, and I don't kick em when they're down... unless it's in the balls.

The SB is not my cup of tea, but I'd be a real jack wad if I didn't hope it worked perfect for you!
 
So the top magnet on my neck pickup is uneven and somewhat pushed under the pickup cover. Anyone know how I can fix this? My OCD is going wild!! View attachment 3052836
I'd like to say that it's just the pup cover jilted to one side, but I can't tell for sure from the pics... and it does look off from the others. In my personal experience, I have little things like that on several of my G&L's... but most here rave about the fit and finish, so unless it's really bad I just deal with it. Of course, you could raise the pole, but that won't help OCD.

Call G&L and tell them what the deal is. They might send you a pup. Otherwise, buy a new pup, put it in, and sell that one... assuming it works fine.
 
I'd like to say that it's just the pup cover jilted to one side, but I can't tell for sure from the pics... and it does look off from the others. In my personal experience, I have little things like that on several of my G&L's... but most here rave about the fit and finish, so unless it's really bad I just deal with it. Of course, you could raise the pole, but that won't help OCD.

Call G&L and tell them what the deal is. They might send you a pup. Otherwise, buy a new pup, put it in, and sell that one... assuming it works fine.
Part of me says to just keep it. It does work fine and I really don't want to mess with the wiring. Soldering passive pups is one thing I can do.... not sure with active. Also I will be going on a month long tour this fall and debating on bringing this bass. Part of me wants to keep it beautiful but the other part says to play the hell out of it! In that case the little pickup issue won't be a worry any more
 
Part of me says to just keep it. It does work fine and I really don't want to mess with the wiring. Soldering passive pups is one thing I can do.... not sure with active. Also I will be going on a month long tour this fall and debating on bringing this bass. Part of me wants to keep it beautiful but the other part says to play the hell out of it! In that case the little pickup issue won't be a worry any more
This is why I build two of everything!
 
Yes... You didn't know that? I build two of everything that I own... and always have within reason. Maybe it's OCD, maybe it's because I love it so much that I want more of it, maybe it's so that when I smash it I have a back up... Or maybe one's for the road and ones for the studio.

Or maybe it's because they're so many colors and so few basses.
 
I know that your heart is set on a 5, but I also know that you're back is against the wall.

A 4 in the hand is better than a 5 in the bush... If G&L had announced an official release of an SB or LB 5, then you could've made a more informed decision to wait... but @craigb will tell you what I always say... Once you decide to get a piece of gear, a ball is set in motion that will not stop rolling until it is satisfied.

You've had your eye set on an SB for awhile now, and while it's not what you specifically wanted, I actually prefer the route that you took. Not because it's a 4... heck, it's not my bass, but because this way you can see if you like the SB platform before you put a ton of time and money into a custom build.

I've been eyeing the SB because I just can't get the damned PJ sound out of my head and I can't accurately replicate with anything else. You and I have had many conversations about people chasing a sound instead of just going and getting the actual thing that makes that sound (i.e. tube amps and big cabinets). This was indeed the case for me and the SB. I was able to comfortably eliminate the fretless requirement after doing some serious time with one, side by side with my existing basses. However, I still wasn't getting the PJ sound that I need for this new project. I tried a Fender P5 but it didn't have that little bit of edge that the J pup gives. Yeah, I could have bought the P5 and then bought a J pup, had the body routed, then the pup and pot installed, etc. but then I'd have spent $2000, all said and done and still not have what I want because I can't stand the color/ FB wood combos on the Fenders :banghead:

I may be a sarcastic, know it all, North Jersey Italian, but I pay attention to my pals and their needs, and I don't kick em when they're down... unless it's in the balls.
And that's why we love tolerate like you so much, brother!
and for the record, I'd enjoy expect nothing else when I'm down

The SB is not my cup of tea, but I'd be a real jack wad if I didn't hope it worked perfect for you!
At first, I thought that it was funny that the SB-2 is not in your arsenal, given your love of the P bass sound, I thought that, for you, having that extra bite from the neck pup would really help push your sound but then I checked myself and remembered that when you are playing covers, you need to sound like the band that played it, not like @armyadarkness playing someone else's song. On the rare occasions that we've done covers, we've made the conscious choice to sound like us even though we are playing someone else's song. So for us, it more like a remake/ re-imagining of the song. When you play it, people get to hear the faithful reproduction of a Ramones or Clash or STP tune. When we play it, people hear us interpreting someone else's work. Yours gets people moving to a memorable classic and ours usually ends up only ever being enjoyed by us because no one wants to hear our crappy interpretations... case in point, I did an industrial metal cover of Burning Love by Elvis .... everyone thought it was some obscure Foreigner recorded during the brief period when Lou Gramm was replaced by Dani Filth :roflmao:
 
I've been eyeing the SB because I just can't get the damned PJ sound out of my head and I can't accurately replicate with anything else. You and I have had many conversations about people chasing a sound instead of just going and getting the actual thing that makes that sound (i.e. tube amps and big cabinets). This was indeed the case for me and the SB. I was able to comfortably eliminate the fretless requirement after doing some serious time with one, side by side with my existing basses. However, I still wasn't getting the PJ sound that I need for this new project. I tried a Fender P5 but it didn't have that little bit of edge that the J pup gives. Yeah, I could have bought the P5 and then bought a J pup, had the body routed, then the pup and pot installed, etc. but then I'd have spent $2000, all said and done and still not have what I want because I can't stand the color/ FB wood combos on the Fenders :banghead:


And that's why we love tolerate like you so much, brother!
and for the record, I'd enjoy expect nothing else when I'm down


At first, I thought that it was funny that the SB-2 is not in your arsenal, given your love of the P bass sound, I thought that, for you, having that extra bite from the neck pup would really help push your sound but then I checked myself and remembered that when you are playing covers, you need to sound like the band that played it, not like @armyadarkness playing someone else's song. On the rare occasions that we've done covers, we've made the conscious choice to sound like us even though we are playing someone else's song. So for us, it more like a remake/ re-imagining of the song. When you play it, people get to hear the faithful reproduction of a Ramones or Clash or STP tune. When we play it, people hear us interpreting someone else's work. Yours gets people moving to a memorable classic and ours usually ends up only ever being enjoyed by us because no one wants to hear our crappy interpretations... case in point, I did an industrial metal cover of Burning Love by Elvis .... everyone thought it was some obscure Foreigner recorded during the brief period when Lou Gramm was replaced by Dani Filth :roflmao:
I tried very hard with the SB2's... Two of them for many years, but ultimately, the LB just fell right into where I wanted it to... and now with the addition of the Kilo, I can't ever imagine needing more than either of these two can provide.

Our covers are rarely faithful, but they do still have "that tone"... We play a ton of classic rock and it all sounds like the Sex Pistols! So... you really need to hear Johnny Rotten singing Reunited from Peaches and Herb.

I did find that the SB was much more susceptible to amp swapping than a P or an LB. I was always 100% SS... With tubes, I might change my tune... I'm anxious to hear your assessment of the SB.
 
I tried very hard with the SB2's... Two of them for many years, but ultimately, the LB just fell right into where I wanted it to... and now with the addition of the Kilo, I can't ever imagine needing more than either of these two can provide.
I sat for a long time with a Kiloton and the SB-2, side by side and end up going with the SB. It was that special something in my ears that the SB had vs. the Kiloton... but man! that Kiloton sounds amazing!!!

Our covers are rarely faithful, but they do still have "that tone"... We play a ton of classic rock and it all sounds like the Sex Pistols! So... you really need to hear Johnny Rotten singing Reunited from Peaches and Herb.
:roflmao:

I did find that the SB was much more susceptible to amp swapping than a P or an LB. I was always 100% SS... With tubes, I might change my tune... I'm anxious to hear your assessment of the SB.
I will say this for it so far, I was about to rip the Way Huge Pork Loin that I just got off of my pedalboard because I HATE it with all my guitars and my L-2500 (I've not played my 004 through it). BUT the SB-2 is able to make it sound like the aggressive, crunch monster that I'd heard/ hoped it would be. It just doesn't sound good at all paired with the 2500... which is still weird to me. I attribute the difference to the overall tone of the SB-2 being brighter than the 2500.
As I spend more time with the SB-2, I intend to really put it through its paces to see if it will actually replace the Model T or if I will need to get another T. Right now, the SB-2 holds a comfortable lead... but we'll see how it holds up over the next few weeks as I start to really put it to work :thumbsup:
 
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