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MB212-ii owners....what stand, do you use to get these up off the ground and up closer to your ear? Thats the only issue I have with a lower profile combo/cab on a smaller stage, its hitting the back on my legs and i cant always hear it properly. I sometimes grab a road case or whatever is lying around, but would like a more permanent, portable, easy to carry option.
A question that I would think that you need to add to your equation is "do you plan on being in a band again?"
The weight difference between the CX210 and CX115 seems to be minimal and they seem to cover the same frequency range. The CX210 looks to win out on speaker sensitivity though.
Personally I'd go with the CX210 as the initial cab purchase. Then if/when the time comes to add another you can choose between another CX210 to make a vertical stack or you can go the way I think I would and add the CX115 at that point.
For strictly at-home use; I like 3-way PA cabs.
They can usually be found pretty cheap since the advent of affordable powered PA cabs, and the three-way design really lets you hear nuances that are helpful for focusing-on and cleaning-up your playing.
I've been using this for a while now for the same purpose:
Husky X-Horse 2.5 ft. Workbench-229694 - The Home Depot
It's lightweight, collapses flat, and is reasonably priced. I place my cabinet on top and I can hear myself very well. Because of this, I don't have to turn up as much and this helps with overall stage volume. For very small stages where real estate is a premium, I'll use the old milk crate to get by in that situation.
I use an On Stage WS8540 for this purpose: On-Stage Stands WS8540 Heavy-Duty T-Stand - Medium-format
I've been contemplating going this route as well for a modest at home practice rig.
Agree with the above. I just purchased a CX210. Very nice cab. Lightweight, easy to transport, not too bulky. I'll be using it for the first time on a gig this weekend so I'll report back on how it performs live. Adding another CX210 would make the most sense if needed, but I haven't played the CX210 or the CX115 together, so not sure if they would work well combined. For the first step in selecting the first cab is to demo them side by side (if you can locally) and see which one appeals to you tonally. That's what I did. Really could have gone either way but I was feeling the 2x10 a bit more. The GK NEO cabs are great as well but I think I prefer the sound of ceramic speakers more based on my experience and preference.
That's a great option, haven't seen that one. I like that you can adjust the height as well. Certainly is less obtrusive and very compact when you break it down.
It has treated me well, thus far. I actually removed the telescoping legs as I always leave it on its lowest setting, which is about 23" high. With my Ampeg 410HE cab on it, it's the same height as my 810E; any higher than than that and I'll have to reach over my head to adjust the amp!
Gonna have to look into something like that. I've been trying to determine a good way to get my 4x10 higher up. Turns out that stand can supposedly support up to 300lbs. I may have just found my new solution. Thanks for posting those @voided3 and @Z-Bass.
Then it should do the trick for me equally well, holding my headliner 410 of the same weight with a roller rack housing a 1001RBII. Should be no sweat without having to look to the large format version of the stand.
Need some opinions, currently using a NEO212 as part of my rig, wondering if I switch to 2 x NEO112 will I get the same thing out of them as the single 212. I know the power handling would be the same I am more interested in tone, same drivers but different cabs, speaker and cab design is not my forte', I use my ears, anyone out there A-B a 212 v. 2 x 112 and really like it? Any negatives/pertinent differences to mention?
Some background on why I ask..not only do I have a legit bad back but I have just been gifted the diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome which causes your joints and muscles to ache like mad. I did a 2 hour gig the other night standing the whole time and my knees hurt so bad and were so stiff after the show that I could barely move without major pain, the 50 lbs of the 212 isnt the worst but my thoughts are if I can lighten the load by splitting into 2 x 112, it may help my load-ins and outs.
Some background on why I ask..not only do I have a legit bad back but I have just been gifted the diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome which causes your joints and muscles to ache like mad. I did a 2 hour gig the other night standing the whole time and my knees hurt so bad and were so stiff after the show that I could barely move without major pain, the 50 lbs of the 212 isnt the worst but my thoughts are if I can lighten the load by splitting into 2 x 112, it may help my load-ins and outs.
The neo 1x12 cabs weigh about 34 pounds each, but bear in mind you would be moving 34 pounds twice instead of 50 pounds once on each trip. This is why I personally have gravitated towards single cab solutions, even if the weight per piece is bit higher.
That said, I have a friend with chronic fatigue syndrome so I understand what you're dealing with. If you don't have to rush to load-in/out at your typical gigs or can just toss them on a handtruck/cart, you would be moving less weight per lift. In fact, even you don't replace your 2x12 with a pair of 1x12 cabs, get a folding hand truck (if you don't already have one) or a cart like a Rock 'n Roller. The carts are nice because you don't have to balance them and your stuff is already 8"-10" higher off the ground when it comes time to load the car (less bending to pick them up).
Side note: You could set the pair of 1x12 cabs on their side to make a tall and narrow vertical stack, which could be better for monitoring purposes compared to a 2x12 on the floor (which is why I use stand with my 1x15 cab, for example). If you're running a rack width head as opposed to a smaller class D head, though, you would have a precariously balanced "T" shaped rig!
Thanks for the advice. I put casters on the 212 and I really love the tone, I would hate to give her up, I have a pair of MBF800s in a rack that I bi-amp her with a NEO 115. I hear what you are saying and appreciate your very thoughtful reply. Rock on!
The 2x112 option seems good if you prior the weight/trip factor as others said.
But since you like your 212 and its weight isn't the worst as you said, what do you think of that option :
Keeping your 212 and getting a 112 + a stand
That way, depending of the venue, you can choose between :
- A stacked 212+112 (what I do and I like it)
- A single 212 (does your cab have rollers ? If no, you may use the stand)
- A single 112 (with which you may use the stand)
Anyway, IMHE, the 112 sound really great by itself and I'm pretty sure a 2x112 would sound as good as a single 212. Any basic EQ would make the two match I think
Thanks for the reply, I already have a NEO 115 that sits on top of the 212, never thought of 3 - 12s though...not a fan of stands, the 115 is high enough where I can hear well and truthfully if I just use the 212 I dont have any issues hearing myself, I have the luxury of playing mostly outdoor gigs with big stages. Thanks for the advise, I appreciate it! Rock on.
