The ONLY thing I care about when working with other musicians is . . .
"Do you know where the one is? Well, do ya?" *
*Buddy Rich
"Do you know where the one is? Well, do ya?" *
*Buddy Rich
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Gay Musicians
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Unfortunately life is not, and has never been, stress-free or easy to negotiate no matter who you are.
Anyone who thinks that it can be made to be is out of touch with reality IMHO.
Putting yourself in the path of a train and then complaining that you got run over is silly.
Anyone who thinks that it can be made to be is out of touch with reality IMHO.
Putting yourself in the path of a train and then complaining that you got run over is silly.
I disagree with the wording of this. Had you said, "a huge part of your identity," instead of "the primary source and focus of your identity," you would be more accurate, and I am going to make a bold statement that your sexual identity is a MAJOR part of who you are. I grow weary of society trying to tell us to "keep all that sex stuff to yourself," like it's the Puritan Age or something. Sex = life, and as one school of philosophers point out, that by creating life you have also created a potential death, sex = death. It is THAT important. Without sex, all multi-celled animals would die out of existence.
As I mentioned before, everything about most people SCREAMS out their sexual identity. There are a lot of gay and lesbian people, that sooner or later, would have people they know ask uncomfortable questions, because "something just don't seem right." Better to wear it out front, and be PROUD of who you are than to put yourself in a position where you can be punished for your secrets.
I would love to live in a colorblind, genderblind, sexual identityblind society, and maybe someday, people will.
But at this time, there is still plenty of institutionalized bigotry based on a number of things, and awareness is the only path to success.
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Which is why those of us in those places of authority have to speak out for our LGBT brothers and sisters. I'm a straight white male in a position of authority, I don't get "hushed". So I try to speak out for those who do.
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Not when fighting for equality it isn't. Undue inequality can be changed. What if no one complained/protested about what happened to Rosa Parks?
I'm with mellowinman on this- sexual identity is a major part of everyone, even in ways most wouldn't realize. I've never heard anyone complain that we're shoving it in people's faces if my wife kisses me on the cheek in public. Gays often do hear that for the same thing.
This is flawed; to the best of my knowledge in the realm of mammals, male + male can not "create" a life, nor can female + female. It tales male + female to "create" a life. This is not to say that a gay couple can not be great parents because they can/are. But IMHO to impose philosophical concepts over biological fact is a little over the top.
I do not subscribe to blind generalizations. I deal with people one on one, not as groups. Either we get along or we don't; race, creed, color, sexual orientation does not determine if you are cool or uncool.
Your wife kisses you in public? How long have you been married?
It's not flawed. It's a pretty decent chain of logic.
- People are saying sexuality isn't that important
- I'm pointing out how important it is
- How important it is doesn't change because you are inclined to share that big of a thing with someone of the same gender
I probably should have premised with "this part of your statement is flawed. I did not intend it to sound as if the entire statement was flawed. Actually, I agree with your over all sentiments but you clearly stated "....Without sex, all multi-celled animals would die out of existence...." Procreation and sex are not always the same. Especially with higher primates like humans. Love is an emotion not a biological act. Can same sex couples truly love each other? Well of course they can. Let's not confuse emotional bonding as one in the same as procreation. Not trying to start a war but philosophy and biology are not the same thing. just sayin'.
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I've said it here before......when I was a full time player we were in need of a keyboard player. (This was around 1980). A certain player was brought to our attention and as soon as we met him we liked him. Once he jammed with us he was in. Great player, fun to be around, very creative and he fit right in with us. Three months later he told us that he was gay and he was scared to death to tell us. We were like...."what? You? No way, come on this is a joke, right........really?" (Never in a million years would you have thought this guy was gay.) There was about 2 seconds of silence and we all took a turn at giving him a hug and gave him every assurance that it didn't matter and that he was still a brother of ours. About a week later we met his partner and I really liked those two as a couple! They were great!
Sadly, our brother became very ill and passed away from AIDS in 1994. Still think about him, still miss him. God keep ya bro.
Sadly, our brother became very ill and passed away from AIDS in 1994. Still think about him, still miss him. God keep ya bro.
I never really cared if someone in the band was gay. As long as they held up their end and were cool it never mattered
I am an open pansexual and active participant in my local pride events. I never really thought of my "queer music scene" though. The reason I am attracted to music is because it brings people together regardless of these arbitrary personal quirks. Music is supposed to be the bridge that equalizes people regardless of race, gender, creed, and walk of life in my opinion.
Profound bs aside, I listen to most anything I can get my hands on, but lately I have found an interest in some modern folk music. It isn't really funky, but it does attract some eclectic fans and musicians. Musical projects like "Andrew Jackson Jihad" and "Spoonboy" touch on social issues and gay equality, etc. While most of the music is acoustic folk with little to no bass in it, I find a lot of open minded musicians at the shows and online. If you aren't into folk so much, you can always go to some reggae shows if you can handle the weed. They are always open minded, free loving, chill dudes. But most of all, the best thing to do is never assume about sexual orientation. LGBT people can be found at the most unexpected places.
I am an 18 y/o college student from NJ, btw.
Profound bs aside, I listen to most anything I can get my hands on, but lately I have found an interest in some modern folk music. It isn't really funky, but it does attract some eclectic fans and musicians. Musical projects like "Andrew Jackson Jihad" and "Spoonboy" touch on social issues and gay equality, etc. While most of the music is acoustic folk with little to no bass in it, I find a lot of open minded musicians at the shows and online. If you aren't into folk so much, you can always go to some reggae shows if you can handle the weed. They are always open minded, free loving, chill dudes. But most of all, the best thing to do is never assume about sexual orientation. LGBT people can be found at the most unexpected places.
I am an 18 y/o college student from NJ, btw.
When I join a musical group, they may be male, female, gay, or straight. Whichever of those they may be has no effect on the way I "connect" with them. I'm there to make music, not make an otherwise unrelated "connection." If we share common musical interests, it's likely to work, regardless of sex or sexual orientation. My point is that it seems like you're looking for something more than similar musical preferences. As I've said before, sexual preferences are irrelevant to me and I really don't care to have that issue enter into my interactions with people.My point isn't that I can't connect with straight musicians. That's not the case, actually. Most of my friends are musicians or musical in some respect. It's simply a matter of not knowing anyone who is gay and a musician, especially with those who share my musical taste. Those are the kind of connection I haven't been able to make yet, since my gay friends are usually into movies, reality shows, and bar-hopping or something else like that. Fun in its own right, but it can't sustain me for too long.
Anyway, I don't mean to complain, (OR make assumptions, pacojas) only see who's out there!I'm sure that if I WERE to move to Seattle proper I'd meet some people who are into it the way I am, but so far I have not.
And Pacojas, you disagree with my statements for some reason. Sorry if I offended your sensibilities, but it just sounds like you're trolling. Please make your point more clear if you're really trying to have a conversation with me.
I find it strange that what a person does in their bedroom should make ANY difference to playing music with them, or pretty much anything else with them also.
It'd only make a difference if I was sexually interested in them
It'd only make a difference if I was sexually interested in them
Making music devoid of sexuality and social relevance with people I can't connect with sounds like a personal hell to me.
Interesting question. But I guess it doesn't really matter to me if you're gay, straight, bi, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, Democratic...
It just matters to me if you like music!!!So don't feel lonely... everyone here has the love of music and bass in common!
Dude, it "are you gay?" it's "Can you play!?!"
So if you can play, it does not matter if you are the gay way, you know what I'm say... ing?
