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GC Preferred Player Card? (cab/head?)
- Thread starter 1940andy
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With the tube head, I'd think the Samsamp would be overkill, especially for your kind of music. Plug and play into a tube head and big cab would be just fine. You may want one though if a quality DI sound is needed and that might be SOP in a lot of places in New York. That would also reduce the need for a huge rig. And yes, a Blues Deville can be insanely loud (and still sound good) although if you guys are going to be miked up and running through the PA, anybody playing as loud as one of those things can sound would be doing more harm than good for your overall house sound and presentation.
sounds to me like you are trying to go for what other players you have seen are playing through.
and frankly, this will not work in nyc. the ampeg rig will wind up just being a nice bgi practice amp in your appartment(which you might not be able ot afford if you finace all this gear), and you probabaly wont even beable to practice in an appartment using that rig as neighbors will complain.
my advice is unless oy uhave roadies to haul it around for you, dont get anythign that you cant move in one trip by yourself. aka-a lightweight cab and head(or a combo), with a bass in a gigbag. the heaviest i would go, if you want that ampeg sound, would be the 200 watt 1x15 combos that ampeg makes.
im probabaly going to be moving down to the coty in the next couple years, with music being a big part of the move, and i know i will be going alllightweight, as there is no way to transport an ampeg friedge ona subway.
and frankly, this will not work in nyc. the ampeg rig will wind up just being a nice bgi practice amp in your appartment(which you might not be able ot afford if you finace all this gear), and you probabaly wont even beable to practice in an appartment using that rig as neighbors will complain.
my advice is unless oy uhave roadies to haul it around for you, dont get anythign that you cant move in one trip by yourself. aka-a lightweight cab and head(or a combo), with a bass in a gigbag. the heaviest i would go, if you want that ampeg sound, would be the 200 watt 1x15 combos that ampeg makes.
im probabaly going to be moving down to the coty in the next couple years, with music being a big part of the move, and i know i will be going alllightweight, as there is no way to transport an ampeg friedge ona subway.
another sidenote....if you dont have established credit, you wont be approved for a credit limit that will come close to covering all of your dream gear anyway.
my strongest recomendation if you need a new amp and want to finance it, would be to buy the markbass 2x10 combo and call it a wrap. then over time if you have the cash aroudn for it, look into a new pbass.
my strongest recomendation if you need a new amp and want to finance it, would be to buy the markbass 2x10 combo and call it a wrap. then over time if you have the cash aroudn for it, look into a new pbass.
Even if you have established credit, this is a hard card to get. HSBC, the company that owns this card and the Sam Ash one, have tightened up credit requirements big time as a result of the "credit crisis". The only thing this card is good for is the "promo financing" they offer. You know, the 12 months no payment/no interest deal. If you're sure you can pay it off on or before the anniversary date, it's a great way to get what you want on someone elses dime. However, be one day late in paying it off or be one penny short and all the interest becomes due since day one.
I agree with the others. You're not making enough money to take on this kind of obligation even if you could get the card. For now, buy what you need, not what you want.
HSBC is a fee mongering asshat company to deal with .
be careful .
their level of rules and traps is set on INSANE!
be careful .
their level of rules and traps is set on INSANE!
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If you get the card, wait until they offer a deal like { you get the gear now, & make no payments or interest for 12 months, or 15 months . Every month put your payment money in the bank, let it set there, until one month before your your due date . Then pay every thing off at once , plus you've made a little extra off the interest from the bank, to buy other things you might want , or need. As for your bass & amp choice : Take someone with you, that knows about gear. { Don't listen to the sells people, they can smell fresh blood } , & will try to sell you stuff , that you may not want or need. GC is really bad about that too. Good luck, & buy smart.
Welcome to the world of revolving credit. The interest and fees are like a tax on your wages. My advice: Read my lips, no new taxes. There is no "right way" to use a credit card when you make 200 bucks a week.
So what if you lose out on the $800 bass? When you add up all of the interest and fees, what you end up paying would probably cover the price of a brand new bass.
Gotta love consumer credit. Don't let the approval process mislead you into believing that somebody thinks you can make the payments. All it means is that they are charging you enough interest to cover the chance that you will default.
So what if you lose out on the $800 bass? When you add up all of the interest and fees, what you end up paying would probably cover the price of a brand new bass.
Gotta love consumer credit. Don't let the approval process mislead you into believing that somebody thinks you can make the payments. All it means is that they are charging you enough interest to cover the chance that you will default.
I have been thinking about it a whole lot, and it wouldn't be smart to get myself into debt at 17 (Probably what would happen if I got this card and bought close to 4G worth of stuff). My best choice at this point in time is to just save for what I want. Before, I never really factored in moving gear around in the city. That's gonna take a big toll on my final decision. And also, who cares if that precision gets sold? Yeah, I like the color scheme, but all i'd have to do is buy one in butterscotch and get a red tort pickguard!
I do stand by me wanting to get the Ampeg 610HLF, because it's only 115lbs. That's way better than the 8x10 counterparts 165lbs. However, it kind of came to me that last night, I don't even need a super expensive Ampeg head. I was playing a 100watt Fender Rumble with a Squier Precision at this gig my band played. My friend let me use his SansAmp.. and oh my god! It was amazing! So maybe all I'll have to do is get a slightly loud solid state head (Markbass, anyone!?!) and just get that SansAmp bugger. If my sound could sound so good last night out of a Squier and a Fender rumble, who knows what could happen if I get an actual good Solid State rig!
What would be a good, light, not so expensive markbass head to pair with this 610hlf? Anyone?
And also, thanks so much for all of your help. You've no idea how much i appreciate it!
-A
I do stand by me wanting to get the Ampeg 610HLF, because it's only 115lbs. That's way better than the 8x10 counterparts 165lbs. However, it kind of came to me that last night, I don't even need a super expensive Ampeg head. I was playing a 100watt Fender Rumble with a Squier Precision at this gig my band played. My friend let me use his SansAmp.. and oh my god! It was amazing! So maybe all I'll have to do is get a slightly loud solid state head (Markbass, anyone!?!) and just get that SansAmp bugger. If my sound could sound so good last night out of a Squier and a Fender rumble, who knows what could happen if I get an actual good Solid State rig!
What would be a good, light, not so expensive markbass head to pair with this 610hlf? Anyone?
And also, thanks so much for all of your help. You've no idea how much i appreciate it!
-A
even the 12 month "same as cash" requires a monthly minimum payment....be late and there is a fee. you've got to be v quick and pay that minimum immediately EVERY month.
then pay the balance off a good MONTH in advance of the "promotion end" date (12th month).
don't get into this unless you ***KNOW*** you can handle it financially.
yes, you can get gear in advance, but screw up and your personal credit rating could be jeopardised for more major future purchases like a car or a home, or applying for other forms of credit (like a visa or master card).
if you are under 18, i think you'll be declined for credit anyway. you still belong to mom and dad, legally speaking.
save your $$$, buy used. fender, no....squire, yes.
SVT, no. PEAVEY, yes.
#1 lesson in finances...live and spend within your means.
have a discussion with someone older and wiser about this subject. mom/dad, uncle, etc.
Actually they don't require a minimum monthly payment, at least not the plans I buy stuff on. I 100% agree with everything else you're saying. Credit is a good thing if used wisely. I got myself in big trouble some years back, but I'm out of that and will never let that happen again.
Andy, why not take a look at GK stuff? I just bought the 1001RB-II and it's plenty loud and versatile coupled with a Bag End 212 and it's pretty easy to move. I had a classic head and got rid of it because with the case I had for it, it weighed close to 100lbs. I think you're making a mistake with the 610 too. Yes it has a good sound, but you a pay a price for that because of it's size. Listen to what people that live in NYC are telling you: SMALLER IS BETTER. You get a good head paired with a small, efficient cabinet, you're going to be heard.
dunno, jamb, i may have them mixed up. i've got MF, GC, SA,
and other cards. i'm out of music gear debt this year for the first year in many. at one point, juggling multi payments for stuff. never late, always paid 12 month promotions early. a couple times a year an 18 month same as cash program is offered at SA, i think. it is good, again IF you can handle it.
12 or 18 months is a long time to be in debt, though.
i'm out...and gonna stay there for now.
and other cards. i'm out of music gear debt this year for the first year in many. at one point, juggling multi payments for stuff. never late, always paid 12 month promotions early. a couple times a year an 18 month same as cash program is offered at SA, i think. it is good, again IF you can handle it.
12 or 18 months is a long time to be in debt, though.
i'm out...and gonna stay there for now.
How much do Avatar cabs weigh, by any chance? I was reading a thread on them. They're pretty dang cheap... I'd love to learn more about them. A name isn't everything when it comes to bass tone. I've learned that. I've played an SVT4PRO through an SVT810 before, and i've played through a Squier and a Fender combo that had better tone.
I'd strongly advise against any sort of credit system.
If you really can't wait on the gear, I would go used. Let someone else take the depreciation hit, and take home some great gear at great prices.
^Oh, and Avatar cabs are known for being very light, relatively anyway.
If you really can't wait on the gear, I would go used. Let someone else take the depreciation hit, and take home some great gear at great prices.
^Oh, and Avatar cabs are known for being very light, relatively anyway.
+1 !!!
I'm not bragging, seeing as how I'm old enough to be your grandpa, but I've got enough money to walk into GC and get what I want.
But I won't.
It just pi$$es me off to know that someone else will buy a used one cheaper, and I'm just paying for some sales-flunkie who was mopping floors last week to buy more dope next weekend. Check EvilBay, Craigslist, pawnshops, and let all your friends know you're looking, too. You'll find what you want just about the time you have the money saved up, at a big chunk less that what GC wants to rip you off for.
I'm not bragging, seeing as how I'm old enough to be your grandpa, but I've got enough money to walk into GC and get what I want.
But I won't.
It just pi$$es me off to know that someone else will buy a used one cheaper, and I'm just paying for some sales-flunkie who was mopping floors last week to buy more dope next weekend. Check EvilBay, Craigslist, pawnshops, and let all your friends know you're looking, too. You'll find what you want just about the time you have the money saved up, at a big chunk less that what GC wants to rip you off for.
an avatar 4x10 weighs less than 60lbs i think, but still...rmember, you will be carrying that 60lbs from your appartment, to a subway, on the subway, and then form the subway to the gig, maybe with a taxi mixed in along the way. plus, winters are rough and summers are horrid in nyc. i vote that you go madular. avatar is a great an inexpensive option for your siuation...a neo 2x10 and neo 1x12 or 1x15 and you'll be all set. or any combination of those cabs. that way you can bring one cab, a bass and a head in one trip to a gig no problem, or bring both cabs to the ones where it is necessary....although i dont think you'll eb playing places liek that once you first hit the city. ive played 1500 person clubs with a single 2x10 cab and a 350 watt gallien krueger head...a house PA system will handle most of the heavy lifting once you get gigging actively.
Well, we were planning on getting a house outside of the city. So you think I should go with something smaller, then?
Get a job bussing tables in a nice restaurant. You'll make more than KFC. If you're smooth, and don't get on people's nerves, you can work into waiter making $100+ a night.
You'll get your gear way faster that way than any fast-food joint.
Good luck.
S.
You'll get your gear way faster that way than any fast-food joint.
Good luck.
S.
