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GC Preferred Player Card? (cab/head?)

#41
Which Deville is he getting (there are two different configurations, 212 and 410). That will make a difference, and whether or not he plays full on. Personally, not having lived in New York but only visiting, good luck trying to play out in Manhattan with that rig. And judging from you're working at KFC currently, I doubt you guys will have a car in the city.

So, unless the Ampeg rig is just for a practice space (where it doesn't have to be moved constantly) or you have a label to pay for cartage or roadies, I would suggest looking elsewhere. There's a reason the new lightweight stuff is so popular, especially for a place like NYC.

So, I could be way off base, but I would suggest at least considering going lighter and smaller if you plan on playing in the city.

EDIT: I see you're starting to take the advice given on the lightweight stuff. So, here's my rec. I played the Markbass LMII the other day, and was impressed. The warmth and tube like tone was unbelievable. Much warmer than my Gallien Krueger 400 RBIII head, and coming close to my Ampeg. In a live situation, close enough that it is well worth it over an SVT, at least for moving around NYC. I saw go LMII for the head, and let others guide you on lightweight cabs (I live in LA, land of the automobile, and so have no use as of yet for a lightweight cab just because its light, although I'm sure they're great). I have an Aguilar DB112, and while no lightweight, it can keep up at practice with a drummer no problem, and the tone is very good, better than my Ampeg. Plus, with a PA, you won't need much more than the volume of the Aguilar in the city.

Second: You guys say you're getting a house outside the city? Does that mean Hoboken? Brooklyn? Will one of you have a car? If so, can it haul all of your equipment? If so, maybe the 610HLF will work out. If not, and if you're relying on public transport, I second my recommendation that everything be at least manageably lightweight:

I could reasonably see an 18 year old with a Fender P and MB LMII in a gig bag carrying an Aguilar 112 through the subway system. Have fun in the city, you're in for a ride.
 
#42
dude, do not get the ampeg 610 or cl if you are going to nyc, it would be a huge mistake. seriously, the large majority of the time when you play out here you do not even need your own rig. ALL you need is an ampeg combo, period! i see more of these in indie rock bands up here then anything else, and i am taking even somewhat successful small touring bands.

look here,
http://www.ampeg.com/products/bassamp/index.html
or,
http://www.ampeg.com/products/diamondbluebass/index.html

buy used on craigslist, there is no point in buying new.

btw, move to NYC asap! you will never regret it. my only wish is i did it at 18 instead of wasting away years elsewhere.
 
#46
skeptikal said:
I just bought the Markbass Mini CMD 121P with the Preferred Players card. 0% interest = pimp. I always pay the items off before the interest starts to hit. I make a little more than KFC money though.
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I just did, almost, the same thing. I signed up for the card and then took home an LMII and a Traveler102P. 0% interest for a year is great. My plan is to split the total into no more than 6 equal payments so it is done in that time frame. I had the cash in my pocket, so I just need to keep it aside until I'm paid up. Credit Cards take ENORMOUS discipline. Which I tend to lack.
 
#47
dude, you're going to find out very soon that $200 a week ain't s***. I'm a college student who works full time (40hr+ a week) making about $500 a week and I'm STILL having trouble budgeting car payments, insurance, gas, rent (still live at home, pay cheap rent to the parents to store my gear/ eat) and being able to feed my G.A.S.

you gotta think, you'll be starting school soon, probably wont be able to work as many hours as you are now. you need to save up.

Personally, i think that the gear you're listing is out of your income range and taking credit on it will ruin your finances, and then you'll be S.O.L. when you're looking for an apartment/car in a few years.

Take it from someone a little bit older than you (20) that just went through what you're talking about. better to have crappy gear than be in debt while you're a teenager, you'll never get out of it!

Good Luck.
 
#48
1940andy said:
Live with mom and dad. No license. Nothing to pay for, really... As far as power and number of speakers, we all have pretty ****** equipment right now. We're all in the midst of buying way better stuff.
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Who pays for your food, electricity, heating etc etc etc? If you get yourself a job don't you think you should be paying towards what you already consume before getting yourself into debt. A credit card should only be used if you can pay off what you put on it every month.

By all means talk to your parents and see how they can help you out in your situation. My folks helped me when I needed it and I paid them back in full as well as paying towards my keep.

Bottom line: buying something you can't afford is a fools game. Don't do it.

Paul
 
#49
BassmanPaul said:
Who pays for your food, electricity, heating etc etc etc? If you get yourself a job don't you think you should be paying towards what you already consume before getting yourself into debt. A credit card should only be used if you can pay off what you put on it every month.

By all means talk to your parents and see how they can help you out in your situation. My folks helped me when I needed it and I paid them back in full as well as paying towards my keep.

Bottom line: buying something you can't afford is a fools game. Don't do it.

Paul
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My parents pretty much pay for everything.

After reading what everyone has to say, I have been swayed into going the lightweight route.

Someone on page two send something about getting an Avatar 2x10 and a 1x12. That way, I can take one cab to smaller gigs, 2 to the larger ones, etc. Now, all I have to do is really decide on a head. I'm gonna go to GC soon to try out the Markbass stuff. I really hope i'm gonna dig the LMII, cause i'd love to go home with that. It's so light! On the other hand though, my friend said that he'll sell me a power amp for cheap. With that, I could just buy a SansAmp RPM or RBI. That shouldn't be too heavy as long as I get a smaller rack, correct? But then again, I could just buy the LMII and the BDDI. That's another route as well.

Thanks so much for all of the help, guys. I guess when I was planning on getting the Preferred Players card, I was just really stoked to get whatever I wanted and didn't really think about it that much. Getting into debt would be a HUGE bummer now, though. Plus, since a lot of the stuff i'm getting now is cheaper, i'll have money to save for the move from here to NYC.

I suppose all I have to really do is save some money and then go to GC and try out a whole bunch of heads. I'm pretty sure i'm going to go with Avatar cabs, though. They're only 44lbs!

What are everyone's opinions on the LMII?

-A
 
#51
1940andy said:
...What are everyone's opinions on the LMII?
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I have to say, when I first saw them I thought ugly as sin and didn't even bother trying them.

The other day after reading all the glowing reviews here, I plugged in on my lunch at GC. WOW. I was highly impressed by the head. Volume, headroom, warmth. This coming from a guy who just bought an as new Ampeg V4BH. I have to say that I am gonna replace my GK400RBIII with the LMII, I was that impressed.

Also, as long as you're soliciting opinions, I'll second my earlier rec for Aguilar. First, they sound good (I've only played the DB112). I can keep up with drummer guitard and singer at practice, no problem. They're a little pricier than Avatar, and the 112 is right around 47. I can carry it with one hand. Second, they look so cool, and third, they're made in NYC. Give one a try in a store, I think you'll really enjoy it. Have fun, looking for gear is almost as much as playing through it.
 
#52
Well guys... after much deliberation, I think I know what rig I want to get. I think i'm gonna go with a Neo 210 and a Neo 112 with a SansAmp RBI/RPM through a power amp. I haven't decided which SansAmp to get, and i'm hoping a fellow TBer will be patient with me so I can buy his power amp in about a month!

The bottom line is that I KNOW I will be happy with the SansAmp. I used a BDDI at a gig this past Saturday, and it made me sound the best i've ever sounded. Having 2 cabinets is going to be great because I won't have to take both cabs to every show we play. Plus, they're both pretty light.

Needless to say, i'm excited! I'm not going to have to be in debt for my entire life either! Ha. I'm just gonna keep saving and buy one thing at a time. I should be able to buy one piece of gear for my rig every paycheck I get. That's a cool feeling =)
 

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