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Geddy's bass tone

#581
A easy way to copy his tone is on amp with 3 eq
Bass 6-7 mid 8-9 treble 6-7 gain 7-8
bass settings
pickups almost full on , equal amounts of both pickups and a little more on the treble
Playing
play hard, really snap of the strings over the neck pickup and the flamico attack, (flicking the strings a open close motion of the index and middle finger)
I'll try to get a youtube video of me doing malnar


oh yea and it doesnt hurt to have 4 henhouse amps either!
 
#582
bl2112 said:
A easy way to copy his tone is on amp with 3 eq
Bass 6-7 mid 8-9 treble 6-7 gain 7-8
bass settings
pickups almost full on , equal amounts of both pickups and a little more on the treble
Playing
play hard, really snap of the strings over the neck pickup and the flamico attack, (flicking the strings a open close motion of the index and middle finger)
I'll try to get a youtube video of me doing malnar


oh yea and it doesnt hurt to have 4 henhouse amps either!
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That's not enough! You NEED a dancing dude in a Chicken Suit too!
:D

Oh and Russ, you are correct, take care of yourself!
 
#585
i read about some one saying even geddy sounded like geddy on a jaco bass. Whats the dif between a jaco bass. The neck and year. Thats all . And I didnt mention the chicken suit guy because most of us can't afford both......

the henhouse amp or the chicken suit. thats the real question!
 
#586
Ok,
Once again, you all have been so great with your kind words and well wishes. It really means so much and it helps more than most of you may know. I can post because not touring at the moment and still lucky enough to be 6 feet ABOVE the ground, I'm just hanging at home.
Ok, where do I start? In my opinion, I find Roto's to grind frets down pretty good. I'll be honest, I'm not sure exactly why as there are a lot over string companies that make similar type windings the Roto does and as far as I know, the same metal composites. I must call Rotosound and see if I can get some dirt out of them about this. I have worked with other bands were the bass player used the set as Ged does on a Fender Precision and he use to wear the frets down pretty fast.
OK, my thoughts are maybe Fender uses a softer metal for their frets? I don't know, I will inquire. I say this as I have worked with artists that have used Roto's on different brands of basses and don't remember noticing fret wear quite as much.
You guy's can probably fill me in on this better! I would appreciate any thing all can offer. You must remember, in what I do, I have the luxury to just send the guitar back to the manufacture and have it dealt with. So I admit, because of this, I get lazy as hey, use the spare and I will send the other one to get re fretted.

As far as the Jaco, it just a standard Custom Shop one you can buy that the sent to Geddy to try. I agree, and so does Ged, it does sound great and I don't change anything in Ged's rig for that bass or any bass he uses. Our sound engineer might do some slight changes but from talking to him, the sound for all Ged's basses, he does very little changes or none at all.

Thanks guys!

RR
 
#587
Russ Ryan said:
Ok,
Once again, you all have been so great with your kind words and well wishes. It really means so much and it helps more than most of you may know. I can post because not touring at the moment and still lucky enough to be 6 feet ABOVE the ground, I'm just hanging at home.
Ok, where do I start? In my opinion, I find Roto's to grind frets down pretty good. I'll be honest, I'm not sure exactly why as there are a lot over string companies that make similar type windings the Roto does and as far as I know, the same metal composites. I must call Rotosound and see if I can get some dirt out of them about this. I have worked with other bands were the bass player used the set as Ged does on a Fender Precision and he use to wear the frets down pretty fast.
OK, my thoughts are maybe Fender uses a softer metal for their frets? I don't know, I will inquire. I say this as I have worked with artists that have used Roto's on different brands of basses and don't remember noticing fret wear quite as much.

RR
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Thanks for the information. Yes, never thought of the fret metal itself being a problem due to softness. I like Rotosounds myself and I'm prepared to refret my bass in case I get into trouble.

Yes, take care, human bodies are more important than other things around here. Fortunately the bodies are self-healing, they take care of themselves, just need to be gentle, provide the right food and healing. Unlike bass guitars, our bodies are able to fix themselves.
 
#589
Russ Ryan said:
Ok,
Once again, you all have been so great with your kind words and well wishes. It really means so much and it helps more than most of you may know. I can post because not touring at the moment and still lucky enough to be 6 feet ABOVE the ground, I'm just hanging at home.
Ok, where do I start? In my opinion, I find Roto's to grind frets down pretty good. I'll be honest, I'm not sure exactly why as there are a lot over string companies that make similar type windings the Roto does and as far as I know, the same metal composites. I must call Rotosound and see if I can get some dirt out of them about this. I have worked with other bands were the bass player used the set as Ged does on a Fender Precision and he use to wear the frets down pretty fast.
OK, my thoughts are maybe Fender uses a softer metal for their frets? I don't know, I will inquire. I say this as I have worked with artists that have used Roto's on different brands of basses and don't remember noticing fret wear quite as much.
You guy's can probably fill me in on this better! I would appreciate any thing all can offer. You must remember, in what I do, I have the luxury to just send the guitar back to the manufacture and have it dealt with. So I admit, because of this, I get lazy as hey, use the spare and I will send the other one to get re fretted.

As far as the Jaco, it just a standard Custom Shop one you can buy that the sent to Geddy to try. I agree, and so does Ged, it does sound great and I don't change anything in Ged's rig for that bass or any bass he uses. Our sound engineer might do some slight changes but from talking to him, the sound for all Ged's basses, he does very little changes or none at all.

Thanks guys!

RR
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Rotos are just course wound stainless roundwounds. All three of those things contribute to their notorious habit of wearing down frets. From what I can tell, the outer windings of Rotos simply aren't wound under as much compression (toward the center wire or together with the previous windings) as other rounds, which makes them feel rougher, and which makes them harder on frets.

Take for example, DR's; they're still stainless rounds, but they're wound under more compression, so the windings are more squished together, so they feel smoother, and are easier on frets.

As for Fender's fret material, I really can't say. I hear good things about the life of stainless frets over normal ones. I don't think a refret or even a neck change every 30 or more years is really that big of a deal, but that's just me.

BTW, glad to hear you're doing well Russ, keep us updated! We're a brother (and sister) hood, which makes you a brother!
 
#595
Thanks for that. I made an inquiry to Rotosound and no response but what you have said and talking to other people, makes total sense. All is well on my front and hope the same for all of you. I had a few moments to post. On-line and really thinking about a week in the Four Seasons in Bora Bora. Check it out. Not cheap but, wife, girlfriend will love it!



superfunk47 said:
Rotos are just course wound stainless roundwounds. All three of those things contribute to their notorious habit of wearing down frets. From what I can tell, the outer windings of Rotos simply aren't wound under as much compression (toward the center wire or together with the previous windings) as other rounds, which makes them feel rougher, and which makes them harder on frets.

Take for example, DR's; they're still stainless rounds, but they're wound under more compression, so the windings are more squished together, so they feel smoother, and are easier on frets.

As for Fender's fret material, I really can't say. I hear good things about the life of stainless frets over normal ones. I don't think a refret or even a neck change every 30 or more years is really that big of a deal, but that's just me.

BTW, glad to hear you're doing well Russ, keep us updated! We're a brother (and sister) hood, which makes you a brother!
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#597
Russ Ryan said:
Thanks for that. I made an inquiry to Rotosound and no response but what you have said and talking to other people, makes total sense. All is well on my front and hope the same for all of you. I had a few moments to post. On-line and really thinking about a week in the Four Seasons in Bora Bora. Check it out. Not cheap but, wife, girlfriend will love it!
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Glad to hear from you again Russ. I'll definately check out the Four Seasons, perhaps not in Bora Bora though...a little beyond my budget :smug:

One quick question, just something I've wondered - how often does Ged actually use one of his backups? Or does he ever, really?
 
#600
melt said:
You may be one of those players who imposes their sound on an instrument. Not all do. I sound very different on every bass I play, but i have a friend who sounds pretty much the same regardless. I can tell you that when playing a Fender for instance I sound absolutely nothing like I do on a Ric, and i's not just my opinion; my bandmates recently told me to dump a P Bass because of how bad I sounded using it compared to my Rics. That's not to say everyone would, but I did.
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This is sooooo true! I wish more people would realize this. ;)
 

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