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Genres??

Why does it matter?

Using genres is merely a way to organize art. As art grows, and new advancements are made, new genres come into existence. Genres form by conventions that change over time as new genres are invented and the use of old ones is discontinued.
Genre began as an absolute classification system for ancient Greek literature. Poetry, prose, and performance each had a specific and calculated style that related to the theme of the story. Speech patterns for comedy would not be appropriate for tragedy, and even actors were restricted to their genre under the assumption that a type of person could tell one type of story best. In later periods genres proliferated and developed in response to changes in audiences and creators. Genre became a dynamic tool to help the public make sense out of unpredictable art. Because art is often a response to a social state, in that people write/paint/sing/dance about what they know about, the use of genre as a tool must be able to adapt to changing meanings.
There's always been genres and sub-genres. We're just more aware of their existence now since information moves so quickly.



I'm mostly disturbed by the over-usage of the word 'recognized' in the first post.

You are quite right. I am to be reprimanded for failing to proof read prior to posting! It does look rather elementary to be sure.
 
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Why does it matter?

Using genres is merely a way to organize art. As art grows, and new advancements are made, new genres come into existence. Genres form by conventions that change over time as new genres are invented and the use of old ones is discontinued.
Genre began as an absolute classification system for ancient Greek literature. Poetry, prose, and performance each had a specific and calculated style that related to the theme of the story. Speech patterns for comedy would not be appropriate for tragedy, and even actors were restricted to their genre under the assumption that a type of person could tell one type of story best. In later periods genres proliferated and developed in response to changes in audiences and creators. Genre became a dynamic tool to help the public make sense out of unpredictable art. Because art is often a response to a social state, in that people write/paint/sing/dance about what they know about, the use of genre as a tool must be able to adapt to changing meanings.
There's always been genres and sub-genres. We're just more aware of their existence now since information moves so quickly.



I'm mostly disturbed by the over-usage of the word 'recognized' in the first post.

Ok... That little grammatical train wreck was tidied up... And in reply to your first question... Does it matter? No, not in the least really. Just an old fellow trying to sidetrack his present concerns in a nonsensical way really.
 
Ok... That little grammatical train wreck was tidied up... And in reply to your first question... Does it matter? No, not in the least really. Just an old fellow trying to sidetrack his present concerns in a nonsensical way really.
It was rhetorical, it does matter, at the level of classification.
Organization and classification is important in the art world.
That's why I gave such a "technical" response.
 
It was rhetorical, it does matter, at the level of classification.
Organization and classification is important in the art world.
That's why I gave such a "technical" response.

Well I'll ask this. Perhaps is it just a bit narcissistic? We are in an age where self seems almost destructive in a societal view. No question we all want to be recognized for our own achievements and uniqueness. But in the end we are all just "people". And music, regardless of its title or genre is just "music".

In the 70's I grew my hair long, listened to Alice Cooper. My mother was certain I was going to the devil. I laughed and scoffed at country music and disco. Point being I really didn't associate with those that were part of the country or disco crowd. Now a half century later I recognize that I missed a lot in my young life due to my own set of imposed barriers.

I see too many titles and self imposed barriers these days. Our society seems to be disintegrating into many varied and self important groups that each seem to have their own "cross to bear" in a manner of speaking. Is it a good thing? I suppose only history will know that answer. Doesn't seem to be to me though.

On that note my wife is now coming out of her tests so I reckon I'll step down off my little soapbox!
 
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Why does it matter?

Using genres is merely a way to organize art. As art grows, and new advancements are made, new genres come into existence. Genres form by conventions that change over time as new genres are invented and the use of old ones is discontinued.
Genre began as an absolute classification system for ancient Greek literature. Poetry, prose, and performance each had a specific and calculated style that related to the theme of the story. Speech patterns for comedy would not be appropriate for tragedy, and even actors were restricted to their genre under the assumption that a type of person could tell one type of story best. In later periods genres proliferated and developed in response to changes in audiences and creators. Genre became a dynamic tool to help the public make sense out of unpredictable art. Because art is often a response to a social state, in that people write/paint/sing/dance about what they know about, the use of genre as a tool must be able to adapt to changing meanings.
There's always been genres and sub-genres. We're just more aware of their existence now since information moves so quickly.



I'm mostly disturbed by the over-usage of the word 'recognized' in the first post.
If not for multiple genres with subtle differences, how would we know what to distain?
 
Folk metal??? Come on....

I'm just waiting for someone to start a jazz metal band. Then it can branch out into subgenres - Swing Metal, Bebop Metal, Cool Metal, Smooth Metal. Then we can have Smoothcore Death Metal and other fun new sounds.

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