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Genz Benz - Official Streamliner Amp Thread -NEW !!

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#767
Well here I am without a Bass Amp head. :crying:

My existing head took a quick exit on me - power amp thingy kaput and too expensive to fix. Just two weeks ago I picked up a new Messa 2x12+tweet cab and was going to run it as a spare cab to my 1x15 Yorkville with 400BH head.

Rick my Wentworth dealer in Vernon BC suggested I try a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0. I looked at it and was totally taken aback that something that light/small could put out. I'm old school and used to lugging around heavy heads in previous years.

Ok, I took it home and was blown away!! However, I couldn't quite get the voice I was looking for. Old school as said and wanting a growly/howly, fat and warm sound. The GB 6.0 was exceptionally clear and clean even when overdriving the tube side with my active bass. It required the bass to be full volume in order to get clipping. I prefer more bass control headroom for adjustment.

This forum has been invaluable in reading about the different GB heads and variables in each. So here I sit awaiting a GB Shuttle 9.0 the shop has on order and is still waiting for their order and also wanting to try the new Streamliner 6.0. It was just ordered today.

So here I sit all broken hearted wanting to do my comparison between the Shuttle 9.0 and the Streamliner 6.0 but since I'm in the Great White North, I'll have to satisfy myself with reading all the feedback from south of the border as the new products arrive.

Keep those cards and letters coming folks. :bassist:

Cheers,
Dave
 
#768
Congrats on the 9.0, I love mine.

In fact right now I can not imagine how my 9.0 could be replaced. I like the idea of more tubes but I just can not fathum bettering my 9.0 tone.
 
#770
Genz-Benz Streamliner
Available mid- to late-January, 2011

"...the feel and tone of a classic tube amp in a [lightweight] practical box."
Capable of sounding like an SA200!
Oomphy! (Uber oomphy?)

Streamliner 600: 6 lbs; 375W @ 8-Ohms, 600W @ 4-Ohms

Streamliner 900: 6.5 lbs; 500W @ 8-Ohms, 900W @ 4-Ohms List $1,279

Tube input buffer
3-tubes, six gain-stages
~300v potential plate voltage
Back panel like Shuttle, minus footswitch
Rack mount available

H ~3"
W 10"
D > 10.5"

Same power module as Shuttle series
3dPM Dynamic power Management system
Switchable between 120/240 volts

FRONT PANEL (left-to-right)
1/4" input jack
Mute button
2-position gain button
Variable Gain knob
Volume
Bass - passive Baxandall-like
Mid control knob - active mid control network
Mid center freq selector: 220Hz, 600Hz, 2.5KHz
Treble - passive Baxandall-like
Master volume
 
#771
Huh...I've never gotten along very well with passive, cascading tone stacks like that.
It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out, for me.
 
#772
Righto...... I'm wondering if the POWER input IS worlwide compatible-I was aswered by 'HASBEEN' saying 'you're covered'

BUT I'm wondering if it's switchable from 110/120V to 230/240V or if it adjusts itself??

OR................

if there'll be dedicated products for these parts of the world. ?????? I'm thinking (& hoping) the former.:hyper:


Jazzdogg said:
Genz-Benz Streamliner
Available mid- to late-January, 2011

"...the feel and tone of a classic tube amp in a [lightweight] practical box." Capable of emulating an SA200! Oomphy!

Streamliner 600: 6 lbs; 375W @ 8-Ohms, 600W @ 4-Ohms

Streamliner 900: 6.5 lbs; 500W @ 8-Ohms, 900W @ 4-Ohms List $1,279

Tube input buffer
3-tubes, six gain-stages
~300v potential plate voltage
Back panel like Shuttle, minus footswitch
Rack mount available

H ~3"
W 10"
D > 10.5"

Same power module as Shuttle series
3dPM Dynamic power Management system

FRONT PANEL (left-to-right)
1/4" input jack
Mute button
2-position gain button
Variable Gain knob
Volume
Bass - passive Baxandall-like
Mid control knob
Mid center freq selector: 220Hz, 600Hz, 2.5KHz
Treble - passive Baxandall-like
Master volume
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rodl2005 said:
Righto...... I'm wondering if the POWER input IS worlwide compatible-I was aswered by 'HASBEEN' saying 'you're covered'

BUT I'm wondering if it's switchable from 110/120V to 230/240V or if it adjusts itself??

OR................

if there'll be dedicated products for these parts of the world. ?????? I'm thinking (& hoping) the former.:hyper:
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there is a red, recessed, slider-switch on the rear panel.
 
#776
JxBass said:
Pretty amazing that there are far more posts/pages on the Streamliner thread than on the Shuttle 9 thread. One amp has been out over a year and the other isn't even out yet :eek:
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IMO, that has a bit to do with what promises to be a unique product, versus another nice hybrid with a single 12ax7 and a relatively 'current, modern, mostly SS tone' IMO and IME.

The 9 is another very nice flavor of the current batch of very impressive micro heads. This Streamliner has the promise (of course, it might not live up to that promise since none of us have heard it yet) of being something unique to the marketplace... a truly 'vintage' type amp in an ultralight, high powered format. GK has a multi-tube micro, but it is just IMO a slightly different flavor of their standard offering IMO. Mesa has the Walkabout, but it is not micro format and has only moderate power.

I had no interest in the Shuttle 9 when it came out (even though I dig it), since I had that sort of thing covered with other heads.

I do new product consulting as part of my day gig, and this amp is in what we call the 'white space'... filling a space on this product category map (i.e., bass heads) that is currently empty (hence, 'white space' on the paper).... lightweight, uber powerful, but true tube driven, class A pre vintage voiced. The TC RH450 boarders this space pretty well, but it is still tube emulation and has quite a bit of bells and whistles that seems a bit of a disconnect with the goal of 'vintage vibe'.

I look VERY much forward to getting mine in February!!!!

IMO, of course.
 
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Jazzdogg said:
Capable of emulating an SA200!
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By my understanding of what Hasbeen said, the use of the word "emulating" here might be a bit much, respectfully. I think he was using the SA200 to describe another head that is capable of creating a very clean tube sound rather than saying the Streamliner is able to emulate that tone.
 
#779
Eublet said:
By my understanding of what Hasbeen said, the use of the word "emulating" here might be a bit overreaching. I think he was using the SA200 to describe another head that is capable of creating a very clean tube sound rather than saying the Streamliner is able to emulate that tone.
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+1 That is my interpretation. The real interest for me with this amp is the ability (again, potentially!) to dial in a nice, full, fat, clean, all tube amp like tone (or close to it), and then KEEP that tone at high volumes (i.e., without the issue that almost all tube amps have, of the power section starting to compress and distort as you push those amps a bit).

I guess that was the whole idea behind that wonderful old Alembic preamp design... basically, allowing a bassist to get much of the clean sound of the old Bassman/Showman Fender heads, but to be able to then to drive that sound to higher volumes without the low powered tube power section grinding and compressing so much.

So, not particularly a new idea in an absolute sense, but definitely a unique execution, given the size, weight, the all-in-one design, and the absolute power.
 
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KJung said:
IMO, that has a bit to do with what promises to be a unique product, versus another nice hybrid with a single 12ax7 and a relatively 'current, modern, mostly SS tone' IMO and IME.

The 9 is another very nice flavor of the current batch of very impressive micro heads. This Streamliner has the promise (of course, it might not live up to that promise since none of us have heard it yet) of being something unique to the marketplace... a truly 'vintage' type amp in an ultralight, high powered format. GK has a multi-tube micro, but it is just IMO a slightly different flavor of their standard offering IMO. Mesa has the Walkabout, but it is not micro format and has only moderate power.

I had no interest in the Shuttle 9 when it came out (even though I dig it), since I had that sort of thing covered with other heads.

I do new product consulting as part of my day gig, and this amp is in what we call the 'white space'... filling a space on this product category map (i.e., bass heads) that is currently empty (hence, 'white space' on the paper).... lightweight, uber powerful, but true tube driven, class A pre vintage voiced. The TC RH450 boarders this space pretty well, but it is still tube emulation and has quite a bit of bells and whistles that seems a bit of a disconnect with the goal of 'vintage vibe'.

I look VERY much forward to getting mine in February!!!!

IMO, of course.
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My comment was intended as more tongue-in-cheek, but excellent points Ken.
 
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