I have the Shuttle 3.0 - 8t and love the portability and sound -for its size the 8" speaker is pretty loud. I Play mostly jazz and occasionally I jam w/rock musicians. I could use a little more volume for the rock jams and I am thinking about getting the 8" Genz Benz extension cab - this still would be super portable. Does anyone have this set up? My other option is getting a 2x10. Keep in mind I am not trying to play rock in a crowded bar.
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Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0 w/8" extension cab
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Personally I'd go for their T12 cab. Still only 33 pounds, and has a BIG sound. For quiet gigs, just turn down. I don't know that I'd use both at once, but you'd have a nice set of options with an 8 and a 12.
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I would suggest that the STL 112 cabinet under the 1x8 cabinet would make a pretty flexible and potent rig. It's all about trade-offs in size, weight, volume, low frequency extension and price.
I would suggest that if you can, try the combination out and see how it works for your needs.
I would suggest that if you can, try the combination out and see how it works for your needs.
I certainly bow to the judgment of folks who develop this gear, but I've always had an aversion to different sized speakers in a single rig. From what you're describing, it seems to me that the extension 8" cab would be perfect. A bit more of the thing that already scratches your itch.
FWIW, I've got the 6.0-12T combo. Adding the extension 12" cab has been absolutely perfect for me...still an amazingly portable rig but with the oomph to handle remarkably loud ensembles and/or rooms.
FWIW, I've got the 6.0-12T combo. Adding the extension 12" cab has been absolutely perfect for me...still an amazingly portable rig but with the oomph to handle remarkably loud ensembles and/or rooms.
I have the 3x8 GB combo. I've rehearsed with it on top of an 8 Ohm Epi 210-tilted the 8 up at my head and it worked like a charm. Loud rock band with a drummer who thinks dynamic means as loud as dynamite
I've also used the head on top of a 4 Ohm Mesa Walkabout cab and it gets plenty loud, clear and low.
I've also used the head on top of a 4 Ohm Mesa Walkabout cab and it gets plenty loud, clear and low.
The thing here is two 8" speakers still won't get very loud. And the STL12 was probably designed to go well with the other size shuttle cabs.
I thought I would give the Genz Benz folks a call and get their advice. I spoke w/Jeff Genzler himself, he was super friendly to talk to. He personally liked the tone of the 8" speakers - he had some caution if I was playing a 5 string bass which I am not. I think I am going to go w/the 8" speaker, I don't need that much more volume and I like the compact aspect.
I have the 3.0 with both 8" cabs. If your not too concerned with extreme Volume (as is) its a great play. I run a VT pedal sometimes and can't believe the tone out of this MICRO stack.
There has been some discussion recently about sound anomalies that can occur with different sized speakers - so if possible, I suggest playing them together in a store before buying. But I bet it would sound good.
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Depending on the application, often the discussions focus on something that doesn't exist in the real world.
This is not the same as different topologies like a folded horn with a front loaded cabinet. The path lengths are offset enough that a large null (and/or peak) will result due to the phase shift from the time offset.
How so? I've been a part of many of those discussions and I don't want to seem like a dolt. I am, but I don't want to seem like one
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How so? I've been a part of many of those discussions and I don't want to seem like a dolt. I am, but I don't want to seem like one
To clarify, sometimes a particular topic on a forum will focus on something that just doesn't really matter (or even exist) in the real world but maybe has some theoretical validity. Well, then a bunch of guys get their panties in a wad and suddenly the sky is falling and such.
For example:
Folks worrying about 2 ohm operation on amps specifically designed for 2 ohm loads.
Folks sure that 12" drivers are a terrible choice for bass guitar, it has to be either 10's or 15's.
Folks who are convinced beyond any reasoning that small, lightweight amps can deliver real bottom end.
Neo speakers... blah, blah, blah...
I think every one of these "old wive's myths" have been well disproven.
I see what you mean now, Andy.
Anyway, to weigh in on the 8T issue...I especially like the 3.0/8T because it has way more bottom and power than it has a right to have, and I think it outclasses everything else in the micro-micro category. I think for what the OP is doing, the twin 8T rig is very doable. However, I have not tried it, only going by my ipression of it with the single cab.
Anyway, to weigh in on the 8T issue...I especially like the 3.0/8T because it has way more bottom and power than it has a right to have, and I think it outclasses everything else in the micro-micro category. I think for what the OP is doing, the twin 8T rig is very doable. However, I have not tried it, only going by my ipression of it with the single cab.
Thanks again for all the info. The 3.0 - 8t has been an amazing rig, I use w/all my basses; fretted, fretless and EUB, playing in a 6 member jazz band and jamming w/my rock and roll buddies. I can even carry my whole rig to rehearsals and jams on my bike, it is that portable. One of the cool features about the Shuttle series is the versatility by adding the various extension cabs, thus dialing in the sound and volume you want based on the venue etc. It seems like a win/win situation no matter what extension cab I go with - 8, 10 or 12.
