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Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0 Appreciation Thread

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Well, first gig for the 9.0 coming up Fri. 1/7. Tried it tonight at pratice which is a very low volume thing. All tone, all the time. I'm thinking of using my 2 1x12" Bag Ends as it is a small place with no need to plug into the PA. It should give it a test.
 
#723
So, after having the damn Genz shuttle bag fall off my shoulder and/or my rig when loading in/out, etc for the gazillionth time... I've sold the bag and bought a case I think just rocks!

This is a Hardigg im2400 case with cubed foam that I used to customize a space for the 9.0. This is as safe as it gets, I think. The build quality of this case is amazing...incredibly sturdy hinges, cool latches and fit/finish is top shelf. Yeah, you'll pay > 2x more than the Genz bag, but you get that and way more in protection ...and then some plus with the customizable diced foam, you can set it up any way you want. I also added the shoulder strap. My $.02 and YMMV, but I thought I'd share.
 

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#725
My experience: The VT Deluxe and Shuttle 9 feel like they are made for each other. The semi-parametric mid on the shuttle lets me add that little goose at 200-250hz that the VT is missing, pretty much completing the sound of that pedal for me.

I'm loving this combination! Got three solid tones dialed in I'm in love with and working on a fuzzier tone now. Can't say enough good things, and the Shuttle's eq just really compliments it.
 
#728
Popps said:
Quick question to those in the know, on the DI switch , Mic or Line?
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No right or wrong answer, but generally it's best to send the cleanest, hottest signal you can to the board, which is the line signal on the Shuttles. I've found that on some cheaper boards, the line level is too hot, so I switch to mic level if the engineer asks me to.
 
#730
Eublet said:
No right or wrong answer, but generally it's best to send the cleanest, hottest signal you can to the board, which is the line signal on the Shuttles. I've found that on some cheaper boards, the line level is too hot, so I switch to mic level if the engineer asks me to.
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This is generally spot on.

Sometimes for festival applications, mic level out works better logisticly because of the tougher communication situation. Whenever using line level, it's "common professional courtesy " to let the engineer know that he should expect line level. At the very least, let the monitor engineer know and he will forward that info to FOH.

Generally, line level results in a slightly lower noise floor for the bass channel.
 
#732
Popps said:
Thanks guys, been out this AM and just got back. Again thanks for the fast response.
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No prob, and feeding off Agedhorse's response, I think Mic level is probably the "set it and forget it" option. It's usually plenty hot and noise free, and if not they'll probably let you know. You'll be able to tell when you see a disgruntled tech making a beeline towards you with a DI in his hand. :D
 
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Eublet said:
No prob, and feeding off Agedhorse's response, I think Mic level is probably the "set it and forget it" option. It's usually plenty hot and noise free, and if not they'll probably let you know. You'll be able to tell when you see a disgruntled tech making a beeline towards you with a DI in his hand. :D
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I would leave it set for mic level. That's what all direct boxes put out, and let's face it, lots of live sound guys are not that bright.
 
#735
mark107 said:
I would leave it set for mic level. That's what all direct boxes put out, and let's face it, lots of live sound guys are not that bright.
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For recording or monitoring through Studio monitors I like line out. With the dive places I play I've been told to turn down the DI a few times so I usually run mic level preemptively live.

I think there is less noise at line level though.
 
#736
For you slappers out there, what are your opinions re: the Shuttle 9.0 performance in terms of articulation and note immediacy? Would you think the FET solid state channel (on the upcoming Shuttlemax 9.0, for example) be a noticeable difference in performance?

Thanks.
 
#738
DLM said:
For you slappers out there, what are your opinions re: the Shuttle 9.0 performance in terms of articulation and note immediacy? Would you think the FET solid state channel (on the upcoming Shuttlemax 9.0, for example) be a noticeable difference in performance?

Thanks.
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I think the 9.0 is great for slapping, and the best I've tried. I don't usual drive the gain to grit. I think the response is fantastic, and love slap with the shap filters on. I can hear definition through the 9.0 I can't get from other amps. Never sounds muddy to me. I have not tried the Genz FET channels.

I'd say my second favorite amp I've owned for slap is the 6.0, then markbass F1 then eden WT550.
 
#739
rpsands said:
Slapping sounds fine as long as you don't crank the gain on the pre - use the volume. I do prefer the fet of the shuttle 3 for slapping, but I'm not very good at it :)
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The only way to really compare the responses of the FET and Tube preamps is on one of the heads that have both, such as the GBE's or the Max heads. The reason for that is because you'll be going through the same power section so any differences will be related to the preamp only. The Shuttle 9.0 is different from the Shuttle 6.0 even though they both have a tube front-end.

Having said that, to my ear the differences are very minimal and you have to do a direct back-and-forth between the two channels to really appreciate the difference. But in general, the FET channel is a little quicker. It's a bit snappier up front, and the notes are uber clean.

By comparison, the Tube channel is a bit more relaxed up front, and the notes have a bit more warmth to them. This is true even when you try not to push the tube hard. If you started with the tube channel, you might think it was very fast and clean, and then you switch over to the FET side and it's like, "Oh, now that's what uber clean is!" :D

They both sound great to my ear, and neither is a make or break kind of thing when it comes to getting a clean and fast tone. The Tube preamp gives you the ability to push the pre a little hard so that the notes get warmer and less articulate, even before things get gritty. So you could argue that it is the more flexible of the two since it still it can go in two different directions.

The FET is what it is. Always clean and pristine, to the max. If you try to push it, it'll stay clean until it starts clipping, and it's a bad sounding kind of clip. You can't overdrive it.

Hope that helps!
 

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