Genz Benz Streamliner, Part 10

[agedhorse]

I'd like to hear your thoughts on how the two stack up.

I tried the D800 for a very short time - I had been using an Aguilar TH for years, and think my ears were really tuned to that sound. The D800 was very different, and didn't sit right with me at the time.

I've been using the Streamliner for years now, and couldn't be happier.

The Streamliner is more heavily voiced than then D-800 which is mildly voiced. The WD-800 is more heavily voiced too, though a very different flavor than the Streamliner.

 

[Not yet]

I'd like to hear your thoughts on how the two stack up.

I tried the D800 for a very short time - I had been using an Aguilar TH for years, and think my ears were really tuned to that sound. The D800 was very different, and didn't sit right with me at the time.

I've been using the Streamliner for years now, and couldn't be happier.

Depending on the band and where I want my Bass to sit determines which I prefer. The Streamliner does occasionally live up to its reputation and get a little "woolly". There are times I really dig how it fills the empty spaces, other times I don't

The D800 is great when I was looking to overdrive in a Grunge band and I seemed to prefer it in a Van Halen band

Now playing in a Blues band and will swap out on mood. Great to have these choices. Won't get rid of either. The Streamliner took work to get the sound I like, now that I mostly get the baxandall.

The D800 out of the box got to my sound

 

[logdrum]

Late to the party and previously had no interest in GB. I've only played a shuttle combo. I was subbing so no chance to learn how to play it. So about 3 weeks ago. In CL I was buying a stereo receiver and the guy had this Streamliner 600 as well. Preamp was okay but power section is shot. Sent it to agedhorse and he made it right. Now my favorite amp. I finally sold My Mesa 400 to an acquaintance who has been courting me for a while. I like that the front can be goosed and it is voiced great Works great with pedal, but specially with clean boost and envelope filters. I do not miss the Mesa 400. I still have a modular 100 watt setup. Pushed by filter pickups like Lusithand NFP it sounds really great , because that preamp can distort many solid sate inputs when you boost it and the cutoff is setup higher.

Was able to play it loud this PM in a band with 2 drummers and I went into the 3DPM mode. 2 Bergantino 112 s. I was playing with keys player who did a lot of Moog type leads and I just did fine. One piece was cimeatic/eefects - the Ebow into - Artifakt Pedal and an Eventide H90 with these cavernous, delays, polyphony and additional modulation, I was definitely punishing the front end but it just went into creamy overdrive with softened high. AB'ed it with the house GK Fusion and the band noticed the difference. If you have an e-bow you know how loud they can be. With my other solid state amps, I have to use a Sushibox to soften so to speak the signal and overdrive . For bass, the Streamliner is voiced better than the Sushi UA and that is a very good pedal. Of course you can get more headroom by setting the gain low and it will be clean but you are assured that it will overdrive/clip nicely if you have variable and dynamic sources like I had today.

Having said that, this has pushed me to the proposition on getting the WD-800 or TT-800 because aged horse designed them and I have also a long relationship with Mesa Boogie guitar amps and am very familiar Randall's gain staging and EQ concepts. Not all tube preamps in class-d amplifiers are the same. This one it is executed well. I do not need 2 channels but I know how the Mesa 400 sounds but the WD-800 is also interesting.

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/nad-reviving-an-almost-dumpster-bound-amp-streamliner-600.1661929/ - my appreciation thread.

My inspired moment on recording noodling with one bass with various styles and versatile the amp response with almost the same EQ setting. I mostly changed the gain and the bass passive tone and volume balance (PJ)

 

[hennessybass]

I did a gig last night as well... with a Streamliner and a Berg 212.
I normally keep my gain pretty low, and play with a very clean sound... but last night, I played with the gain button in. Totally changed the amp.
This was a pretty big outdoor gig, and our loudest gig, so things were cranked pretty good. I was hitting the peak LED just every so often when I would dig in on a low note.
Totally changed up the feel of the amp for me. I was having lot's of fun playing and was way more aware of what my right hand was doing. The musical response of the amp to my playing was great. Totally had that "on the edge" thing.

The Streamliner continues to impress. The fact that after years of gigging it, I'm still finding new sounds and getting inspired really says a lot about this amp.

 

[noeinstein]

I'm considering buying a different cab to pair with my STL 900. Currently using a Schroeder 1210PL, which I like well enough, especially the relatively light (46lbs) weight. But... if I could find an even lighter cab that works well with my STL providing more of the sound I want (Motown-like), I'd probably pull the trigger. I won't say money is no object, but my budget is better than usual right now. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts and experiences.

 

[BassBeginer64]

that head makes love with a barefaced212 cab, that head also made a GK 412 push some air !

 

[noeinstein]

that head makes love with a barefaced212 cab, that head also made a GK 412 push some air !

Barefaced is on my short list

 

[mwbonsall]

I'm considering buying a different cab to pair with my STL 900. Currently using a Schroeder 1210PL, which I like well enough, especially the relatively light (46lbs) weight. But... if I could find an even lighter cab that works well with my STL providing more of the sound I want (Motown-like), I'd probably pull the trigger. I won't say money is no object, but my budget is better than usual right now. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts and experiences.

You have a lot of options. Take a look at the current Genzler and Bergantino offerings, both are light and sound great.

Mark

 

[Wicked G]

I was playing with a new bass last night through the Streamliner and two GK NEO112's. Lately with the gain button engaged and gain up to about 2:00 this amp has really brought more smiles to my face. Lots of tones in there if you really play with it. It's not difficult to get the wooliness and softness dialed out and make it more articulate and cutting.

 

[hennessybass]

I'm considering buying a different cab to pair with my STL 900. Currently using a Schroeder 1210PL, which I like well enough, especially the relatively light (46lbs) weight. But... if I could find an even lighter cab that works well with my STL providing more of the sound I want (Motown-like), I'd probably pull the trigger. I won't say money is no object, but my budget is better than usual right now. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts and experiences.

How much cab do you need?
115 for the Motown thing?

I use a Berg HDN212 for most of my stuff, but also have a HDN210. Very different tones. I'd say probably easier to get a "Motown" sound out of the 210.
That 210 is a VERY nice size and weight. Sounds good too. Maybe lacking in a bit of the deep lows, compared to the 12s, but the midrange is very cool and unique.

 

[hennessybass]

I was playing with a new bass last night through the Streamliner and two GK NEO112's. Lately with the gain button engaged and gain up to about 2:00 this amp has really brought more smiles to my face. Lots of tones in there if you really play with it. It's not difficult to get the wooliness and softness dialed out and make it more articulate and cutting.
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I'm gonna try that again (gain button in). You got the gain cranked pretty good too!

 

[Wicked G]

I'm gonna try that again (gain button in). You got the gain cranked pretty good too!

Yes sir and you would think that it would sound really dirty, but what I am hearing is a lot of texture, grunt, harmonics and bite with no wooliness. It won't hurt to try.

 

[agedhorse]

Yes sir and you would think that it would sound really dirty, but what I am hearing is a lot of texture, grunt, harmonics and bite with no wooliness. It won't hurt to try.

This works best with a passive P type bass imo, and that’s kind of what the gain switch was scaled around.

 

[hennessybass]

Yes sir and you would think that it would sound really dirty, but what I am hearing is a lot of texture, grunt, harmonics and bite with no wooliness. It won't hurt to try.

This works best with a passive P type bass imo, and that’s kind of what the gain switch was scaled around.

Ya. I normally keep gain low and crank up further down the line. If I recall from my experimenting with it, it was sensitive to the right hand. Texture and harmonics for sure.

Passive J for me

 

[noeinstein]

How much cab do you need?
115 for the Motown thing?

I use a Berg HDN212 for most of my stuff, but also have a HDN210. Very different tones. I'd say probably easier to get a "Motown" sound out of the 210.
That 210 is a VERY nice size and weight. Sounds good too. Maybe lacking in a bit of the deep lows, compared to the 12s, but the midrange is very cool and unique.

I'd like to find a 212 that weighs in like a 210

 

[hennessybass]

I'd like to find a 212 that weighs in like a 210

GR Bass Cab

No experience,,, I just know they are supposed to be LIGHT.

Maybe Barefaced?

 

[JEDI BASS]

I'd like to find a 212 that weighs in like a 210

I bought a GR AT 212+. You should be able to get any sound you want from this cab. It's rated at 900 watts and weighs only 28.9 pounds. I got it new from Randy Riley at The Bass Spot. Great price and came with a cover. Tell Randy that his repeat customer Joseph Jordan sent you.

 

[noeinstein]

I bought a GR AT 212+. You should be able to get any sound you want from this cab. It's rated at 900 watts and weighs only 28.9 pounds. I got it new from Randy Riley at The Bass Spot. Great price and came with a cover. Tell Randy that his repeat customer Joseph Jordan sent you.

Thanks. Don't know anything about this brand.

 

[JEDI BASS]

Thanks. Don't know anything about this brand.

Made in Italy, carbon fiber ultralight cabinets in black and "natural" as well as wooden designs. Modern but versatile in sound. The 212 has a tweeter with a 3-way switch. I believe it offers Off, Half, or Full on.

 

[HowieD72]

I don't gig, so can't comment how this rig would suit your situation. But the STL 900 with a Barefaced 410 (49lbs) is IMO, the sweetest sound you'll ever hear. The STL 900 never ceases to amaze me. Just when I think I've heard everything & it's time to upgrade (if that's possible????), I turn a few knobs & I'm in love again!