Genz Benz Streamliner Part 3!!!!

[LilRay]

Oddly enough, I got my amp when promised from Greg at Rocket, and wasn't charged until it shipped.

Then again, I always get that service from him - that's why he continues to get my business. Cost and value are two different things...

When I'm able to buy any new gear, it will be from Greg. He's a stand up Guy and I like his business model.

That there ended me with Ye Old Music, I won't go for we'll charge you now and send you one when we want.



God Bless, Ray

 

[BioDriver]

Don't hold your breath... I was told the same thing several weeks ago - after he charged my cc..

"soon" what does that mean exactly?

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:eyebrow raised to the sun: Has he shipped yours yet? This is pretty unsettling.

 

[faulknersj]

Anyone else hoping that Genz Benz develops a 4 ohm + 8 ohm 15'/6'/1' cab to compliment the Shuttle and Streamliner Series?

 

[SteveC]

I don't see them doing a 15/6/1 as they have the Uber Quad 12/8/8/1. Seems to me this is their "take" on the multi driver, separate compartment thing.

 

[Smallequestrian]

I need a 15' to to privide adequate low end balance in the mix at certain venues I play on a regular basis without PA support. I know GB is great at looking for and filling specific niches, and am therefore surprised they have been late to the 15'/6'/1' party. Those of us that have played them know thaey will someday be as standard as a 4x10, or 2x12.

No, you don't need a 15" loaded cab, you need a properly designed cab for your needs. Driver size has little to do with low end performance as opposed to the actual driver design.

 

[Bass7755]

When I'm able to buy any new gear, it will be from Greg. He's a stand up Guy and I like his business model.

That there ended me with Ye Old Music, I won't go for we'll charge you now and send you one when we want.



God Bless, Ray

I'm going to agree with Ray. I bought my Steamliner 900 from
Greg and a Mono bag. I'll be looking for a new cab (hopefully
this year) and I'll purchase that from Greg too. He's a great
guy to deal with and has lots of eye candy in the store.
Plus he is local...45 minutes from me.
Dan

 

[mwbonsall]

I'm going to agree with Ray. I bought my Steamliner 900 from
Greg and a Mono bag. I'll be looking for a new cab (hopefully
this year) and I'll purchase that from Greg too. He's a great
guy to deal with and has lots of eye candy in the store.
Plus he is local...45 minutes from me.
Dan

Greg has received most of my music gear funds the past year for a reason. He is local for me also, only few days drive....

Mark

 

[LilRay]

Greg has received most of my music gear funds the past year for a reason. He is local for me also, only few days drive....

Mark

Well he will be local to me in April

Have you decided on trying to fly out Mark?



God Bless, Ray

 

[faulknersj]

Smallequestrian, I respectfully disagree with you. I have never played a 12' that could push as much air as a 15'. My Avatar TB153 produces far more room filling bottom than my Genz Benz Neo X 212T. No comparison. What 12' cab have u played that can move as much air and produce as much bottom as a 15'?

 

[Bass7755]

Greg has received most of my music gear funds the past year for a reason. He is local for me also, only few days drive....

Mark

Let's have a GTG at Rocket Music on Friday! I think
you can make it if you leave tomorrow and don't stop for
any pee breaks!
Dan

 

[Red Planet]

Anyone else hoping that Genz Benz develops a 4 ohm + 8 ohm 15'/6'/1' cab to compliment the Shuttle and Streamliner Series?

The have.

The Uber Quad. Nads to the rim.

 

[faulknersj]

The Uber Quad is a 12'. 12's do not move as much air or produce as much room filling bottom as 15's. A page back, a Genz Benz endorsed Uber Quad user validated my hope that GB might produce a 15' 3 way by confirming that the Uber Quad does 'not do dub.'. Have u played a 15'/6'/1'?

 

[Smallequestrian]

Smallequestrian, I respectfully disagree with you. I have never played a 12' that could push as much air as a 15'. My Avatar TB153 produces far more room filling bottom than my Genz Benz Neo X 212T. No comparison. What 12' cab have u played that can move as much air and produce as much bottom as a 15'?

Speaker/cabinet designers would disagree with you. Its a case by case basis.

Many people used to put a 15" under a 4x10 for more low end volume, but more often than not those 410's have more low end extension than 15's. The 3015 in that Avatar is the king of the crop right now for sure though.

 

[faulknersj]

It really is a beautiful 15' driver! Considering the popularity of the LDS Fearful cabs, and the Avatar cab, I am surprised Genz Benz has not responded to demand for these products. On average, I gig 5 nights per week. After years of using 4x10 and 2x12 cabs, I am totally sold on the 4 ohm 15'/6'/1' as a compact 1 cab solution for any gig environment. I can only imagine how superior a GB 15'/6'/1' would be to the competition, especially for us die hard Shuttle and Streamliner fans if voiced to pair optimally with those series of amplifiers.

 

[RumbleBeeAL]

:eyebrow raised to the sun: Has he shipped yours yet? This is pretty unsettling.

Negative. I have not yet been contacted by Mike with a tracking number to date. Maybe the Post-It note with my info fell off the wall... Go figure.

My order was placed January 24, 2011.

My fingers are crossed!

 

[greenboy]

Speaker/cabinet designers would disagree with you. Its a case by case basis.

Many people used to put a 15" under a 4x10 for more low end volume, but more often than not those 410's have more low end extension than 15's.

That's another factoid that's endlessly repeated around TB that could be revealed in a deeper fashion. It's not necessarily true that the typical 410 has more extension (often it has less). It could roll off higher than a decently aligned and sized 115. Or not. But usually that 410 usually has more sub-200 Hz output when fed the same amount of power (until one or the other is out of useful excursion).

This is a different thing than having deeper extension, reaching to lower frequencies in a practical and useable fashion. But indeed, it's a case by case basis for all this stuff. A major surety exists though: that NO CAB MANUFACTURER has drivers that go significantly lower or louder than what any other cab manufacturer has easy access to. Thus, as I always say, unreferenced specs are useless and might as well be outright lies - intended or not. And as Bill always says (or something to that effect), SHOW ME THE GRAPHS.

By the way fölken: 15 foot (15') and 6 foot (6') drivers are not used in 15/6 cabs. And if ANYBODY SHOULD KNOW, it's ME!

 

[tombowlus]

I don't see them doing a 15/6/1 as they have the Uber Quad 12/8/8/1. Seems to me this is their "take" on the multi driver, separate compartment thing.

+1 But then again, they don't seem to be afraid to put out numerous fairly similar products.

 

[tombowlus]

Smallequestrian, I respectfully disagree with you. I have never played a 12' that could push as much air as a 15'. My Avatar TB153 produces far more room filling bottom than my Genz Benz Neo X 212T. No comparison. What 12' cab have u played that can move as much air and produce as much bottom as a 15'?

I know a couple:

Bergantino HT112ER
fEarful 12/6cube

 

[Jeff Scott]

I need a 15' to to privide adequate low end balance in the mix

I would certain hope that a 15 foot diameter speaker has adequate low end!

 

[faulknersj]

Thanks tombowlus. So those 2 cabs with 12 inch drivers will produce as much room filling bottom as the Avatar TB-153? If so, I will be looking into them. My GB Neo X 2x12T is a great cab, but does not even come close to the output of clean bottom the 15 inch driver in my Avatar produces. I can't wait to receive my Streamliner 600 and shoot live gig video paired with both the above mentioned cabs.