+1 With the AE10's, just a smidge of low cut and a smidge of 600 boost is kind of my 'starting point' with the Streamliner and my VP5. That bass has a good amount of brightness to it in that 1K region, as does the AE10's, so that the voicing is perfect for me for fat and grunty with just that touch of 'hair' in the upper mids to give it character. With my J's, not so much.... can't reall dial it it where I like to hear a J sit.
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Genz-Benz Streamliner Part 5
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+1 With the AE10's, just a smidge of low cut and a smidge of 600 boost is kind of my 'starting point' with the Streamliner and my VP5. That bass has a good amount of brightness to it in that 1K region, as does the AE10's, so that the voicing is perfect for me for fat and grunty with just that touch of 'hair' in the upper mids to give it character. With my J's, not so much.... can't reall dial it it where I like to hear a J sit.
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+1 The F500 definitely performed very well in our bench tests. That is a great 500-watt class-D output section (and SMPS power supply combination).
+1 The F500 definitely performed very well in our bench tests. That is a great 500-watt class-D output section (and SMPS power supply combination).
I finally got to try an MBFusion briefly, and that thing is a hammer also, and as I posted up over on that thread, another really nice take on a hybrid design.
I really do feel the Mesa comparison is a pretty good one with these two heads, with the MBFusion kind of in the M6/M9 tonal space (i.e., modern, big, bright, full range, and sizzly if you want it, with more of a 'touch of tube'), and the Streamliner being a bit closer to the MPulse600 (or DB750)... just fat, warm, big, creamy, smooth tube tone.
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I had pretty good luck with the J's actually boosting 2.5K and also cutting the bass. Now, that was only the 60's-ish spec tho too... with a 70's-ish spec, it might be a little more difficult, but I'll be trying that tomorrow night. 2.5k seems pretty high, but it also seemed like it had kind of a wide Q, 'cause it did seem to bring in some nice stuff below 2.5k, and dealing with anything above that, the treble control seemed to work pretty well.
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Matt brought his 1212L over yesterday and it sounded great. The BMF cabs would sound even better, since they are more present in the upper mids. Nice match-up to me, and the Streamliner has that low end power to widen those tight cabs out a bit.
This really did seem to work well for me too, tho depending on the cabs, I might cut the bass a bit more... not with the 210's, but probably with the 112's.
+1 That is how Jason's (Vision's) A-C LM clip is EQ'd on the clip of him on my Youtube channel. It sounds good, but really not my thing personally.
Doesn't surprise me. Jorg says he knows the SL amps well, and recommends a 1215L. I'm leaning strongly toward one.
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Yeah, this means that Jason, Jason, myself, and some others are in alignment on this, and differ from you.
In short, just means you're wrong. Now go stand in the corner and be quiet or we'll make you wear the hat.
Yeah, this means that Jason, Jason, myself, and some others are in alignment on this, and differ from you.
In short, just means you're wrong. Now go stand in the corner and be quiet or we'll make you wear the hat.
To be clear, Vision (Jason) didn't dig it much either with his LM. It is just a different thing that some will like and other's won't. No big deal, and there are many different J tones.
This amp isn't even in my consideration set for use with my particular J basses. Emulating a tube amp with a P Bass.... bliss!
Also, if I was a Joe Osborne tone fan, this amp would kill with that '60's J with flats' sort of thing also IMO.
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Emulating a tube amp with a P Bass.... bliss!
I'm still just a little bit in shock to read such a sentence coming from Ken...
Emulating a tube amp with a P Bass.... bliss!
When I demoed the SL I first tried an Amer Deluxe 5 Jazz - sounded great. Then I plugged in a P-bass and the whole thing woke up. No question in my mind that GB used Fender basses to style the sound of the amp. Interestingly, though, my Modulus even sounds good through it, although I had to do a lot of tweaking to get it there.
I'm still just a little bit in shock to read such a sentence coming from Ken...
It is a bit funny. The book I play on most of my gigs has just changed SO much over the past few years, that my typical grindy, bright, J tone started to sound quite dated to me. As I've posted before, who would have thought a passive P through a tube amp would become the 'hip' tone again in the pop music world?!?!?!. Go figure!
Edit: Again, to be clear, this isn't at all a 'some basses don't sound good with the amp' thing at all. PURE personal preference. I've pretty much documented the J tone(s) that I attempt to achieve in all my YouTube clips, which of course, would not be what everyone would dig at all. There are just other heads that get me to that tight, punchy, upper mid grindy tone much more easily and much more aggressively in a mix. I don't particularly enjoy the sound of my P through my 'modern' solid state rigs either. The right tool for the right job!
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