You’re still mounting a head to cab. It is not a combo amplifier. It is a micro rig.
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Genzler Amplification Club
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Passinwind
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- Dec 3, 2003
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Every combo amp ever produced was some version of mounting a head to a cab. The only difference is that some have a custom enclosure which makes it all look like one piece and some don't.
I’ve been owned a lot of combo amps in my time and the Genzler 350 far exceeds any I’ve played or gouged through. Professional piece of bass gear.
I’d agree with others here that if one can lift it all up together in one hand, it is a combo... and that the 350 is the best available. Other companies have done similar rigs where the “head” slides in and out of some sort of bracket giving you the options of both a separate head or a combo. Some also give you the option of using the cab separately as well. The downside with a traditional combo is that generally they have lower quality components than one gets with separate head and cab. The 350 gives you both options with no compromises.
but if you require something that it all in one cabinet, there is the Gollihur bass acoustic combo. Invalid Link Removed
Symantics. It’s a combo, and all you need if reasonable. I used mine with drums guitar and synth keys and I had it at about noon. Takes my Roscoe B string like a ... it takes it just fine.
Takes it like a champ. I'm sure that is the word you were looking for.
Well, I finally did it. After much bouncing around (in my head...actually, a not too uncommon occurrence) between the Subway 800+ and Magellan 800, I settled on the latter. I want both. I can't swing it at this time. A close friend and extraordinary bassist picked up the original Subway 800 and a pair of the Subway 112 cabinets. It sounds amazing for such a compact rig. I really want to take Andy's setup for a run around the block sometime, but it came down to what I was most familiar--and comfortable with. After first getting the Shuttle 3.0-10T, I knew that Jeff, Scott and Andy were on to something great. I had heard of Genz-Benz before, but had never used any of their equipment. The little Shuttle was an eye-opener. After getting a slightly used 10T extension cabinet from a fellow TBer, I was even more impressed with the "little rig that could". I had some extraneous noise issues with the extension cab, and even though I purchased it used, Jeff, Andy and Scott worked with me--a no-name, weekend warrior--guiding me through several scenarios, offering to swap out parts and got me set up right with the cabinet. There were a few questions that I have had since then, and I was always amazed that it was not uncommon at all to call out there and Jeff, himself, would pick up the phone. Amazing. Other gear came and went. I added a Shuttle 9.0, which was just freed from my embarrassing neglect (thanks, Nate!), and a Streamliner 900...another amazing piece of kit.
So now to the Magellan. It's everything that everyone here said it would be. I really wanted to check out the effect that the changes in the power amp module have created...it's not subtle...at all. There is an effortless nature to the notes--for motorheads think of a massive overabundance of torque, no matter how low or loud (okay...I haven't gigged it, and probably won't for awhile...but I HAVE had fun rattling things off of the walls while my better half was at work
), the Magellan just cruised on through. Even though the Shuttle 3.0's layout was so simple, I really loved its FET front end, perhaps more so than the tube pre in the Shuttle 9.0 (the Streamliner is another animal altogether--it's a keeper) so, I was curious as to how the Magellan's preamp would differ. In a word: versatility. It's been less than a week since it arrived and I am just now starting to scratch the surface of what it has to offer. Settings and tonal variations that I never thought I would use now seem to be viable. I normally play clean, finger-style (I'm not coordinated enough to slap--and probably wouldn't know what to do with it, if I could), never thinking that I would like "dirt". I have discovered that a little dirt can be nice in some instances. The adjustability of the drive channel covers a lot of territory, so I am not writing it off. I feel most at home with the clean channel and "blue" contour...it's familiar to me. That said, I have got a lot more experimenting to do!
Pics or it didn't happen:
So now to the Magellan. It's everything that everyone here said it would be. I really wanted to check out the effect that the changes in the power amp module have created...it's not subtle...at all. There is an effortless nature to the notes--for motorheads think of a massive overabundance of torque, no matter how low or loud (okay...I haven't gigged it, and probably won't for awhile...but I HAVE had fun rattling things off of the walls while my better half was at work
), the Magellan just cruised on through. Even though the Shuttle 3.0's layout was so simple, I really loved its FET front end, perhaps more so than the tube pre in the Shuttle 9.0 (the Streamliner is another animal altogether--it's a keeper) so, I was curious as to how the Magellan's preamp would differ. In a word: versatility. It's been less than a week since it arrived and I am just now starting to scratch the surface of what it has to offer. Settings and tonal variations that I never thought I would use now seem to be viable. I normally play clean, finger-style (I'm not coordinated enough to slap--and probably wouldn't know what to do with it, if I could), never thinking that I would like "dirt". I have discovered that a little dirt can be nice in some instances. The adjustability of the drive channel covers a lot of territory, so I am not writing it off. I feel most at home with the clean channel and "blue" contour...it's familiar to me. That said, I have got a lot more experimenting to do!Pics or it didn't happen:
Nice! I am starting to feel I should have just got the 800 in the first place(for the overdrive channel, but also the extra power). That head should be a "lifer"! 
Well, I finally did it. After much bouncing around (in my head...actually, a not too uncommon occurrence) between the Subway 800+ and Magellan 800, I settled on the latter. I want both. I can't swing it at this time. A close friend and extraordinary bassist picked up the original Subway 800 and a pair of the Subway 112 cabinets. It sounds amazing for such a compact rig. I really want to take Andy's setup for a run around the block sometime, but it came down to what I was most familiar--and comfortable with. After first getting the Shuttle 3.0-10T, I knew that Jeff, Scott and Andy were on to something great. I had heard of Genz-Benz before, but had never used any of their equipment. The little Shuttle was an eye-opener. After getting a slightly used 10T extension cabinet from a fellow TBer, I was even more impressed with the "little rig that could". I had some extraneous noise issues with the extension cab, and even though I purchased it used, Jeff, Andy and Scott worked with me--a no-name, weekend warrior--guiding me through several scenarios, offering to swap out parts and got me set up right with the cabinet. There were a few questions that I have had since then, and I was always amazed that it was not uncommon at all to call out there and Jeff, himself, would pick up the phone. Amazing. Other gear came and went. I added a Shuttle 9.0, which was just freed from my embarrassing neglect (thanks, Nate!), and a Streamliner 900...another amazing piece of kit.
So now to the Magellan. It's everything that everyone here said it would be. I really wanted to check out the effect that the changes in the power amp module have created...it's not subtle...at all. There is an effortless nature to the notes--for motorheads think of a massive overabundance of torque, no matter how low or loud (okay...I haven't gigged it, and probably won't for awhile...but I HAVE had fun rattling things off of the walls while my better half was at work
Pics or it didn't happen:
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As a owner of the Subway 800 and 800+ plus the Subway 112 cabs I can say they are very nice but for me it doesn;t come close to the Genzler 800 or 350 and and of the Array Cabs. I done side by side testing in churches and the sound engineers all like the Genzler best. We are blessed to live in a time when Bass rig technology is at an all time high for powerful lightweight rigs but the total package of Genzler and the Arrays is simply the best IMO.
Hey @rok51 Congrats on the new addition! After my honeymoon break in with my MG800 I've gone to a real basic set it and forget it. EQ's all set to 12 noon, "A" contour set at 11 o'clock and volume to suit the gig requirements. Pure unadulterated Bass heaven! And many compliments to boot.
I had one boomy lively room where I did slightly turn down the bass eq, and there was the time I was bored so I switched to the "B" contour for a few songs. lol. Best rig for me, ever!
I had one boomy lively room where I did slightly turn down the bass eq, and there was the time I was bored so I switched to the "B" contour for a few songs. lol. Best rig for me, ever!
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NIC.. I have found eth "B" contour can help fix a Boomy stage too.. And also sort of mimic a sealed type cab .. The MG800 is not a one trick pony...
Sturdy little sucker too..
Sturdy little sucker too..
I like your new moniker Steve.
Thanks Loring. I kept getting flak over at the Club Sadowsky!!! thread. TB was kind enough to let me change it. Loved my StingRay. It was a faithful friend for many years but you know what they say, " Once you go Sadowsky...."
Good stuff. I had the club manager mentioned the boom to me between songs so I just turned around and tweaked the bass EQ. When I play that room again I'll try the "B" contour.
Yeah stingrays are no slouches either but shadowsky is pure class...
I am just scratching the surface on the 800...I haven't found a sound that I didn't like...at least so far! 
Like my Genz-Benz amps, I am finding that just a smidge of an adjustment one way or another yields a proportionate change...far different from the olden days when there might have been three tonal changes over 270 degrees of knob sweep. I am jazzed about the potential to add another one of my GS112s to this rig if I ever need to. I had been hanging onto my F1-X/PLX 1804 rack setup for those instances when I might need four of them. It may never happen again, but I love that setup as well...it's just so much easier for this old fart to grab the Gator bag with amp and all necessary cords and head on out. It truly is a great time in bass gear land...I never thought I'd live to see the day when we didn't actually need refrigerator-sized rigs. Just a theory, but as some of our bass-playing engineers advanced in age, they took the time to invent a smaller, better mousetrap, and we all have reaped the benefits. The absolute concussive power of the 800 amazes me...and the master hasn't been past 9:00 yet!
Can I join the club? Can I? Please?
Like my Genz-Benz amps, I am finding that just a smidge of an adjustment one way or another yields a proportionate change...far different from the olden days when there might have been three tonal changes over 270 degrees of knob sweep. I am jazzed about the potential to add another one of my GS112s to this rig if I ever need to. I had been hanging onto my F1-X/PLX 1804 rack setup for those instances when I might need four of them. It may never happen again, but I love that setup as well...it's just so much easier for this old fart to grab the Gator bag with amp and all necessary cords and head on out. It truly is a great time in bass gear land...I never thought I'd live to see the day when we didn't actually need refrigerator-sized rigs. Just a theory, but as some of our bass-playing engineers advanced in age, they took the time to invent a smaller, better mousetrap, and we all have reaped the benefits. The absolute concussive power of the 800 amazes me...and the master hasn't been past 9:00 yet! Can I join the club? Can I? Please?
I also had both the 3.0 and the 9.0... and also preferred the all FET front end of the 3.0. And yes, the Magellan are a full generation better
Been running my 800 into two Schroeder Cabs, one 12PL (Single 12 Neo), 12 12 L (Dual 12 Neo - one is corner slot load). It it is amazing with the 3 twelves (both cabs are 8 ohms) And carrying the MG800 around with extra cords and stuff in a Laptop computer Samsonite shoulder bag.I am just scratching the surface on the 800...I haven't found a sound that I didn't like...at least so far!
Can I join the club? Can I? Please?
