I noticed in big red letters to the side of you it says Motorb. Please make me laugh and tell me that the rest of it says Motorboat.
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Genzler Amplification Club
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I'm taking a mental health day today from work.
Finally had some time to play my 5-string Dingwall NG3 thru (in succession) my 2x BA12-3 rig, and the BA410, to A/B them. Same bass, same head (Mag 800), same eq.
Now for some observations:
Despite the fact that the 410 is brand new and the 12s have miles on them, there was a distinct difference between the 12s and 10s, and the 10s were much punchier and tighter. The 12s rounder and woolier. Both handle the low B with aplomb. The 410 was only a slightly bit louder, just from ear memory.
All of which is EXACTLY what I am after.
Now I have full confidence that the 410 is my Led Zeppelin rig of doom.
The 12s are 100% my country rig of doom.
And I'm just so happy with both decisions.
Thanks again Jeff for making such great gear, and all of you for your enablement.
Finally had some time to play my 5-string Dingwall NG3 thru (in succession) my 2x BA12-3 rig, and the BA410, to A/B them. Same bass, same head (Mag 800), same eq.
Now for some observations:
Despite the fact that the 410 is brand new and the 12s have miles on them, there was a distinct difference between the 12s and 10s, and the 10s were much punchier and tighter. The 12s rounder and woolier. Both handle the low B with aplomb. The 410 was only a slightly bit louder, just from ear memory.
All of which is EXACTLY what I am after.
Now I have full confidence that the 410 is my Led Zeppelin rig of doom.
The 12s are 100% my country rig of doom.
And I'm just so happy with both decisions.
Thanks again Jeff for making such great gear, and all of you for your enablement.
In addition to the punchiness and tightness, did you notice any difference in the frequency response?
I'm so good at describing bass tone (not).
I guess if I'm saying the 12s are rounder/deeper, then it favors those frequencies, and the 10s put out a more even, across the spectrum sound. Maybe this is just my eyes talking back to me (because that's what I would expect from a 12 versus a 10, and it conformed to my built-in bias).
I guess if I'm saying the 12s are rounder/deeper, then it favors those frequencies, and the 10s put out a more even, across the spectrum sound. Maybe this is just my eyes talking back to me (because that's what I would expect from a 12 versus a 10, and it conformed to my built-in bias).
I’ve always preferred 10’s to 12’s. Not sure why. I’ve had 12’s but not as long or as often as 10’s.
I’ve had 4 string but I always go back to 5 string. Just accept what works for you I guess.
I’ve had 4 string but I always go back to 5 string. Just accept what works for you I guess.
Hahaaa. Yes, that is us!I noticed in big red letters to the side of you it says Motorb. Please make me laugh and tell me that the rest of it says Motorboat.
Just curious. That is what I would expect as well. Frankly,while love the impact of a 410, I truly love that deeper tone of 12s. And the genzler 12s are pretty darn impactful as well. But of course as a bass player, I just can't help myself from really wanting to know what that 410 feels and sounds like anyway!
If I wasn’t lugging my own gear these days there is no question I’d be using 2 of these 4 10 cabinets
Another just let it run muted.
When using the MG800 as just a DI (Cabless) I turn the Bass volume down leaving the amp on all four hours.
When using the MG800 as just a DI (Cabless) I turn the Bass volume down leaving the amp on all four hours.
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A pair of 112s is definitely an easier schlepp than two 410s, but I can only imagine how two of those 410s would be such a buzz! On the other hand, in any venue I've played in so far since procuring the 112s, I have had no need for louder than I can get with those on about half volume or less.
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Agree, I’ve had no issues using my 12-3 and 12-3 slant. Of course I have to wonder if I used a 10-2 on top of a 12-3 would sound even sweeter to my ears. But as much as I like the sound of 10s I don’t think a 10-2 is going to sound anything like a 410.
True dat! But it would be cool to have a 410 on hand as an alternate option. But that's a lotta cookie dough to have those options, as I'm sure I don'tneed to tell you!
Have you tried any other microphone placement with this rig? I saw where Jeff is recommending about 12 inches away and slightly off axis. Thx.
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This venue is unique in that it likes both a direct out and a mic placement. everywhere else I am just DI'd. So no, I haven't been back to the Canyon Club since that gig.
Chris, is Pettyhearts a Petty tribute (I would think, right)? cool. I love playing bass in a Tom Petty band.
Chris, is Pettyhearts a Petty tribute (I would think, right)? cool. I love playing bass in a Tom Petty band.
Very interesting on both outs ... yes we pay tribute to Tom and his boys. Heading out for 4 shows tonight.
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With regard to the Genzler BA series, specifically, I find the 12's to be more punchy, detailed, and articulate in the mids, the 10's to be a bit smoother overall, with more bloom down low, and very similar highs between both (as you would expect). The SLT version of the BA12-3 is more tight, and slightly less warm, than the regular BA12-3.
To clarify, I am talking about the BA410-3 and BA210-3 (not the BA10-2) versus the BA12-3.
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The 10-2 does sound very good on top of the 12-3. Obviously the 12-3 is louder but the punchiness of the 10-2 does impact the overall sound in a real and very nice way. The round warmth of the 12-3 plus the punch & brightness of the 10-2 marry nicely. When playing around with them, I preferred the together sound than either by itself.
That said, I haven't used them together in a live setting and do worry a bit about the difference in power handling capability - I most likely would pair them with the 350 rather than the 800 or if with the 800, with care - but they do sound cool together.
