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Genzler Amplification Club
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svtb15
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I'd rock a Genzler shirt, for sure
Guys, there are already Genzler amp bags and cab covers - get you some!
Guys, there are already Genzler amp bags and cab covers - get you some!
I'd rock a Genzler shirt, for sure
Guys, there are already Genzler amp bags and cab covers - get you some!
Better hurry up before the bootleggers start selling them on ebay.
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I got my MG800 today and I have to say, I'm impressed. I've only had a few minutes with it and it's a keeper. When I opened the box and felt the construction and twisted the knobs, it all feels like a solid amp. My GK felt like a cheap kids toy by comparison. When I plugged it in, set everything at noon and hit the first note, I got that tone that I loved about the GK, but thicker, more articulate and more encompassing. I smiled. Playing with the contour and drive showed some fantastic tonal variations that were easy to find. I was playing through my GK Neo212, have to wait until tomorrow to use my Bergantino.
The feel of the knobs and chassis construction, as funny as it sounds, makes such a difference in the aesthetic pleasure of an amp and this delivers in that department. It looks and feels solid in every way, like the body of a fighter jet.
I won't miss the tone of my GK as I nailed it out of the box with the Magellan. But, given the fact that I went from Flea to Jaco to Duck Dunn to Dusty Hill very quickly and easily, shows the well thought out design and simple versatility of this amp.
There is something special about Genzlers designs.
Jeff, we need swag, decals, hats, coffee cups, band-aids, etc,...
Hey Texan, Thank you for your purchase and for the kind comments. About the fit and finish....that has been a very important aspect of our design goals for some time now. I've always felt that a piece of equipment should give you a sense of it's performance characteristics BEFORE you ever turn it on. As musicians we're very tactile (obviously) and since you don't necessarily "play" an amplifier, you do interact with it and it should feel like an extension of the instrument you caress with your hands ----- both in feel and tonally.
And about the swag......geez we're not a big corp entity
. We're pouring all we can into the product and availability. I'm sure at some point we'll have some available. Thanks again for giving us a try.
Hey Texan, Thank you for your purchase and for the kind comments. About the fit and finish....that has been a very important aspect of our design goals for some time now. I've always felt that a piece of equipment should give you a sense of it's performance characteristics BEFORE you ever turn it on. As musicians we're very tactile (obviously) and since you don't necessarily "play" an amplifier, you do interact with it and it should feel like an extension of the instrument you caress with your hands ----- both in feel and tonally.
And about the swag......geez we're not a big corp entity
Thanks again for giving us a try.
No worries on the swag as long as you don't get involved with a giant corporate entity again. We all know how that turned out last time.
Engineer to engineer, thanks for not overlooking the small aesthetic details, that says volumes about your design standards.
@Xandrell
Of course he doesn't use both but everything he had was the old over 100lb cabinets and the older all tube heads that weighed more than my whole setup lol. He was very impressed with what I had. He made sure to mention that he was going to order some Genzler gear.
Of course he doesn't use both but everything he had was the old over 100lb cabinets and the older all tube heads that weighed more than my whole setup lol. He was very impressed with what I had. He made sure to mention that he was going to order some Genzler gear.
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I love me MG800, but I also love my (65lb) all tube amp. I don't care WHAT anyone says....until I feel what I feel from my Super Bassman amp from another- lighter/different type etc amp, I'll be playing-feeling (as Jeff states) my heavy @ss all tube amp.
Of course, I'll be playing AND feeling my Magellan 800 as well. It's got its place. ...and it's a great place too...
Perhaps I'm influenced by where I started. .. but.... I like both sorts. Country AND western!
Of course, I'll be playing AND feeling my Magellan 800 as well. It's got its place. ...and it's a great place too...
Perhaps I'm influenced by where I started. .. but.... I like both sorts. Country AND western!
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Im using my MG800 thru my old 90s Bagend 112 today with my 64 p BAss with SS Rounds.. It's a quiet ensemble setting . Holy cow this amp sound great even at LOW settings.. Drummer playing with brushes..
Pretty much everything is flat but i turned the VOICE "A" Blue LED up to about 10 o'clock.. 3 seconds and its right where i feel comfy..
Pretty much everything is flat but i turned the VOICE "A" Blue LED up to about 10 o'clock.. 3 seconds and its right where i feel comfy..
I've spent the last 4 hours rolling through my basses and cabs with the MG800 and I'm simply amazed. I put everything except the master at noon and started with the GK Neo212 then after all of the the basses swapped to the Bergantino AE410. The basses were a Custom 64' PBass clone with Aguilar pups, Lakland DJ5, Lakland 55-02 with the Bartolini pups and pre, Peavey TL6, Lakland 55-01 with US Bartolini pre and ChiSonic pups, Lakland Duck Dunn with Duncan antiquities, and a Cort active fretless.
With each bass, I started on the clean channel with Contour A, then engaged Contour B, then switched to the drive channel then back to Contour A while on drive. I was amazed at how the Clean channel just envelopes you with the 3D lows and the crisp highs. With the clean on contour B, the vintage tones start to come out and with drive channel and contour B it was a fantastic reproduction of Stax and Motown. I found this to be the case with every bass, of course with slight differences because of the basses. The DJ5 was tight and punchy for slap, articulate for finger style, and had a nice growl when I would dig in. The Pbasses were thick and warm for blues, classic R&B (Stax/Motown), very 60's and 70's best on Drive and/or with contour B, you can nail that Geezer tone. The 55-02 was the swiss army knife it is known for, every tone was possible and beautifully represented. The Peavey was warm and articulate. The Cort Fretless sounded better than it ever had. I was able to get Jaco's tone without issue.
The winner of the day for me though, was the 55-01. All of the other basses were ale to deliver a sledgehammer to the chest, but the ChiSonics and the NTMB pre in the 55-01 were like a wrecking ball to the chest. The absolute best modern sound I have come across.
This is a well rounded head, worth more than the asking price. I can't think of a tone that you can't easily get with the Magellan. Everything that I rolled through was useable and I have no doubt that it will cut through the mix in every situation. Both cabs, as different as they are, took well to the head and suggest that almost anything will sound good paired with the Magellan.
My one gripe: I would love to see future versions equipped with two independent countour knobs that are footswitchable like the clean and drive channels. A simple two button footswitch, clean/drive and contour A/B would make this a perfect amp. As is, I give it a 9.5.
What I tried to do in the chart below is show, IMHO, the frequency response that I hear. The amber represents the Drive channel with the contour B. The blue is the extension that you get with the clean channel and contour A. The different amp companies on the chart are brands that I have owned and I placed them where I interpreted them in relation to the Magellan. Every amp listed here can be duplicated by the Magellan, IMHO. Yes, could have done a Bell-curve, but I'm one of those odd people that see sound in colors, and this is how the Magellan looked/sounded to me.
Blue--------------------------------------------Amber-------------------------------------------Blue
10------------------------------------------------0-----------------------------------------------10
With each bass, I started on the clean channel with Contour A, then engaged Contour B, then switched to the drive channel then back to Contour A while on drive. I was amazed at how the Clean channel just envelopes you with the 3D lows and the crisp highs. With the clean on contour B, the vintage tones start to come out and with drive channel and contour B it was a fantastic reproduction of Stax and Motown. I found this to be the case with every bass, of course with slight differences because of the basses. The DJ5 was tight and punchy for slap, articulate for finger style, and had a nice growl when I would dig in. The Pbasses were thick and warm for blues, classic R&B (Stax/Motown), very 60's and 70's best on Drive and/or with contour B, you can nail that Geezer tone. The 55-02 was the swiss army knife it is known for, every tone was possible and beautifully represented. The Peavey was warm and articulate. The Cort Fretless sounded better than it ever had. I was able to get Jaco's tone without issue.
The winner of the day for me though, was the 55-01. All of the other basses were ale to deliver a sledgehammer to the chest, but the ChiSonics and the NTMB pre in the 55-01 were like a wrecking ball to the chest. The absolute best modern sound I have come across.
This is a well rounded head, worth more than the asking price. I can't think of a tone that you can't easily get with the Magellan. Everything that I rolled through was useable and I have no doubt that it will cut through the mix in every situation. Both cabs, as different as they are, took well to the head and suggest that almost anything will sound good paired with the Magellan.
My one gripe: I would love to see future versions equipped with two independent countour knobs that are footswitchable like the clean and drive channels. A simple two button footswitch, clean/drive and contour A/B would make this a perfect amp. As is, I give it a 9.5.
What I tried to do in the chart below is show, IMHO, the frequency response that I hear. The amber represents the Drive channel with the contour B. The blue is the extension that you get with the clean channel and contour A. The different amp companies on the chart are brands that I have owned and I placed them where I interpreted them in relation to the Magellan. Every amp listed here can be duplicated by the Magellan, IMHO. Yes, could have done a Bell-curve, but I'm one of those odd people that see sound in colors, and this is how the Magellan looked/sounded to me.
Blue--------------------------------------------Amber-------------------------------------------Blue
10------------------------------------------------0-----------------------------------------------10
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Well put! Rod looks young. Wait until he's got a few more miles on!
Yuk yuk!
That pic in my avatar. ..is from about '81... I'm a young at heart (ain't all us bassists???) 53.
And as far as the "glass to maintain" as I and many other all tube amp users have stated over n over. .. if you look after em... I mean don't abuse. . I really haven't had to "maintain" my tube amps much more than any other type of amp I've had since my start back in C'73. (I would like to say NO more but I can't be certain and I have bought power tubes a couple of times in that 40 yrs. .. I can't remember exactly how many times but it wouldn't be more than 4x at most. And back then I'd get the amp serviced at the same time as it was biased etc. .. this Super Bassman has autobias that seems to work beautifully in this model. ... and I've had my SS / Hybrid amps need as much ( again. ...I COULD say more, but I'm not sure and don't wanna start a tit fer tat etc
) looking after as the all tube.The key words in this are. ..don't abuse. ... and this means in all its aspects - I use a 300w all tube amp which means I love CLEAN tube tone. .AND don't have to run the power tubes hard. ...so. .they last.
So. .. in all of this, I think I'm giving the Magellan a HUGE plug. ..coz imo if I can dig it, when my fave amp is a VERY lush sounding all tube beast, then Jeff's made a bl○○dy good amp.
I love the Magellan. ..it's a beauty-easy to dial in, very versatile, nice quality- sound and feel and looks.
I hope I'll still be carrying in my 65lb Super Bassman in 10- 15 yrs as I dint find it heavy. I find the SVT's heavy. ..they're closer to 80lb (maybe more for my fave of em- the SVT-VR ) but 65lb. ..is cool. I know it ain't 8lb.
I'll simply say is a fantastic time to be a bassist. ..especially one that gigs regularly... Light and great sounding cabs as well as amps.
That's THE best thing in my books. Being able to have that CHOICE! !!!
If I've got a heap of stairs to get to my gig or any other form of poor access. ...I can simply take a FANTASTIC sounding light amp &/or cab and STILL do the gig.
It might not be the SAME tone I get outta the heavy rig, but it's still great and still makes me happy
And. .....THAT'S what is all about. Imo,ime,afaic (I'm concerned) etc. ...
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I just switched the Magellan to 2.67 ohms, plugged in the GK Neo212 and the Berg AE410. Both cats were in the room. I hit am open E with my thumb, the house shook, the cats scattered. Haven't seen them in 30 minutes. Its an SVT killer...
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Interesting. I don't think it odd to see sound in colors. I somewhat do as well and I have run across many others who do. In this energy vibrational world, I think it would be better if we all awakened to perception of vibrations as a corresponding to everything else, and seeing/perceiving in colors is one of the steps toward this, as all matter has a vibrational aspect. In the chi kung world, many who practice begin to see these vibrational colors.I've spent the last 4 hours rolling through my basses and cabs with the MG800 and I'm simply amazed. I put everything except the master at noon and started with the GK Neo212 then after all of the the basses swapped to the Bergantino AE410. The basses were a Custom 64' PBass clone with Aguilar pups, Lakland DJ5, Lakland 55-02 with the Bartolini pups and pre, Peavey TL6, Lakland 55-01 with US Bartolini pre and ChiSonic pups, Lakland Duck Dunn with Duncan antiquities, and a Cort active fretless.
With each bass, I started on the clean channel with Contour A, then engaged Contour B, then switched to the drive channel then back to Contour A while on drive. I was amazed at how the Clean channel just envelopes you with the 3D lows and the crisp highs. With the clean on contour B, the vintage tones start to come out and with drive channel and contour B it was a fantastic reproduction of Stax and Motown. I found this to be the case with every bass, of course with slight differences because of the basses. The DJ5 was tight and punchy for slap, articulate for finger style, and had a nice growl when I would dig in. The Pbasses were thick and warm for blues, classic R&B (Stax/Motown), very 60's and 70's best on Drive and/or with contour B, you can nail that Geezer tone. The 55-02 was the swiss army knife it is known for, every tone was possible and beautifully represented. The Peavey was warm and articulate. The Cort Fretless sounded better than it ever had. I was able to get Jaco's tone without issue.
The winner of the day for me though, was the 55-01. All of the other basses were ale to deliver a sledgehammer to the chest, but the ChiSonics and the NTMB pre in the 55-01 were like a wrecking ball to the chest. The absolute best modern sound I have come across.
This is a well rounded head, worth more than the asking price. I can't think of a tone that you can't easily get with the Magellan. Everything that I rolled through was useable and I have no doubt that it will cut through the mix in every situation. Both cabs, as different as they are, took well to the head and suggest that almost anything will sound good paired with the Magellan.
My one gripe: I would love to see future versions equipped with two independent countour knobs that are footswitchable like the clean and drive channels. A simple two button footswitch, clean/drive and contour A/B would make this a perfect amp. As is, I give it a 9.5.
What I tried to do in the chart below is show, IMHO, the frequency response that I hear. The amber represents the Drive channel with the contour B. The blue is the extension that you get with the clean channel and contour A. The different amp companies on the chart are brands that I have owned and I placed them where I interpreted them in relation to the Magellan. Every amp listed here can be duplicated by the Magellan, IMHO. Yes, could have done a Bell-curve, but I'm one of those odd people that see sound in colors, and this is how the Magellan looked/sounded to me.
Blue--------------------------------------------Amber-------------------------------------------Blue
10------------------------------------------------0-----------------------------------------------10
Or you could just drop some acid ... j/k ...
The good Ole days! I have some vague recollection hearing some colors in sound as well.
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Yeah, and they told me I would have flashbacks; after 40 years am still disappointed - not a one - another j/k
Actually, it just temporarily fused the left brain right brain connection so that sound could be seen in colors by those without the natural energetic progression/talent of perception.
Natural methods like the practice of chi kung allows that natural enhancement of perception without utilizing stimulating or chemical agents. Some people simply come to Earth with this perceptiveness. I think most are capable of enhancement of their natural awareness. Most of us musicians are already half there due to our natural artistry but anyone here may be intensely surprised at the list of rock stars (which I can't share) that have come to my qigong workshops, who all reported much enhanced musical stage awareness, and some "I can now see music in colors".
My whole point of posting this is to re-iterate that such is not an "odd" thing but a natural thing, and most of us could, if we wanted to.
