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Genzler Amplification Club

I'm dithering about cabs right now as I can't audition much where I live. How would folks describe the differences between the Genzler Bass Array and Mesa Subway cabs? A local dealer has the MG/210BA/12BA in stock and I plan to try it in a couple days, but the MESA stuff is like unicorns around here...

I have owned the Mesa 800 and 800+ with their Subway 112 cabs and I now own Genzler 800 with BA112-3's and 210-3's and have done side by side tests in various venues. The results was actually pretty substantially better with any of the Genzler gear for me. I've had sound engineer's and various people in the churches I play in come up to me when I was doing this and all stated how the Genzler filled the room better and had the best tone they've heard from a bass rig. I sold my Mesa stuff immediately and have been a Genzler fan since. The Mesa gear is top notch to but to me the Genzler gear is just cutting edge cabinets. I've never seen anything that will compare to the portability, power, and tone they possess.
 
True story... I dont have the array cabs I have the more traditional MG cab.. BUT the DI out of my MG800 is equal to or Much higher quality than the standard Countryman or Radial DI.. proven time and time again.

I have owned the Mesa 800 and 800+ with their Subway 112 cabs and I now own Genzler 800 with BA112-3's and 210-3's and have done side by side tests in various venues. The results was actually pretty substantially better with any of the Genzler gear for me. I've had sound engineer's and various people in the churches I play in come up to me when I was doing this and all stated how the Genzler filled the room better and had the best tone they've heard from a bass rig. I sold my Mesa stuff immediately and have been a Genzler fan since. The Mesa gear is top notch to but to me the Genzler gear is just cutting edge cabinets. I've never seen anything that will compare to the portability, power, and tone they possess.
 
Thanks to the great team at Bass Direct I now have my Bass Array 10-2 Combo here in the UK. I had some money in the bank from selling other gear so I went ahead and bought a 10-2 extension cab as well.

I had to do quite a bit of driving today and I am exhausted so I will leave my first comments until tomorrow. A more exhaustive evaluation should follow from this Saturday when I take it to our big band gig.

All is good so far. To be continued...
 
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I need to get my Genz Benz Streamliner serviced. I know Genzler is a different entity, but wondering if they might be able to help. Do any of you guys know?
PM Agedhorse. I believe he still services those. And if he doesn't, I'm sure he would be happy to help you get it to someone who will.
 
Thanks to the great team at Bass Direct I now have my Bass Array 10-2 Combo here in the UK. I had some money in the bank from selling other gear so I went ahead and bought a 10-2 extension cab as well.

I had to do quite a bit of driving today and I am exhausted so I will leave my first comments until tomorrow. A more exhaustive evaluation should follow from this Saturday when I take it to our big band gig.

All is good so far. To be continued...

I "Liked" this only because there isn't a "Spitefully Envious" option.
 
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Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I need to get my Genz Benz Streamliner serviced. I know Genzler is a different entity, but wondering if they might be able to help. Do any of you guys know?
Yes @agedhorse has a service plan to assist with these requests. It will be a quick response.
 
I have now had a bit of time to play a few basses and an EUB through the cab.

With the basses, what you put in is what you get out. My initial impression with a bass that I shall not name was one of mild disappointment (read on, Jeff!). Then I switched to my passive Lull P/J 5-string with Nordstrand pickups and everything came alive. The growl on lower notes is superb, and there is appreciably more weight at the lower end than for my previous 10" cab.

Then I tried my NSX EUB and this was the "moment". I have never heard it sound so good. I dialled out a touch of upper mids (frequency at around 1 o' clock) to get rid of the piezo sound, but it all sounds so smooth anyway that this is nothing like as necessary as it used to be. So how much of that "problem" upper mid in the NXT is the piezo pickup interacting with traditional speakers and tweeters? I don't have a cab with a tweeter to compare. It might also be the amp input impedance working for me, accept that I did not get this result feeding a Magellan 800 into another cab. The NSX is so convenient that getting it to sound so good with no effort justifies the wait for this combo.

What a superb design this little combo is. So the gig this weekend will the Magellan 350 10-2 combo, NSX EUB and a G&L jazz bass (this is not the sound that disappointed me - the G&L MJ-4 sounds excellent).

I am on the lookout for a double bass. (Boy, is that another challenge and a different world regarding cost and maintenance!) I cannot help feeling that the 350/10-2 is going to be superb for this application. In the meantime, it brings the NXT alive and makes for a very practical and portable combination.
 
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I have now had a bit of time to play a couple of basses and EUB through the cab.

With the basses, what you put in is what you get out. My initial impression with a bass that I shall not name was one of mild disappointment (read on, Jeff!). Then I switched to my passive Lull P/J 5-string with Nordstrand pickups and everything came alive. The growl on lower notes is superb, and there is appreciably more weight at the lower end than for my previous 10" cab.

Then I tried my NSX EUB and this was the "moment". I have never heard it sound so good. I dialled out a touch of upper mids (frequency at around 1 o' clock) to get rid of the piezo sound, but it all sounds so smooth anyway that this is nothing like as necessary as it used to be. So how much of that "problem" upper mid in the NXT is the piezo pickup interacting with traditional speakers and tweeters? I don't have a cab with a tweeter to compare. The NSX is so convenient that getting it to sound so good with no effort justifies the wait for this combo.

What a superb design this little combo is. So the gig this weekend will the Magellan 350 10-2 combo, NSX EUB and a G&L jazz bass (this is not the sound that disappointed me - the G&L MJ-4 sounds excellent).

I am on the lookout for a double bass. (Boy, is that another challenge and a different world regarding cost and maintenance!) I cannot help feeling that the 350/10-2 is going to be superb for this application. In the meantime, it brings the NXT alive and makes for a very practical and portable combination.

@dBerriff, thank you for your purchase and for the kind comments! So glad that your initial run-through has worked so well with most of your instruments. I think your experience on your gig will highlight the projection and dispersion of this little rig.
As well your comments regarding your NXT piezo pick up and the inter-action with traditional speaker/tweeter combinations is spot-on. The array design is perfect for this type of pickup as it provides a much smoother cabinet response for what can be a "brash" pickup element.
 
I have now had a bit of time to play a few basses and an EUB through the cab.

With the basses, what you put in is what you get out. My initial impression with a bass that I shall not name was one of mild disappointment (read on, Jeff!). Then I switched to my passive Lull P/J 5-string with Nordstrand pickups and everything came alive. The growl on lower notes is superb, and there is appreciably more weight at the lower end than for my previous 10" cab.

Then I tried my NSX EUB and this was the "moment". I have never heard it sound so good. I dialled out a touch of upper mids (frequency at around 1 o' clock) to get rid of the piezo sound, but it all sounds so smooth anyway that this is nothing like as necessary as it used to be. So how much of that "problem" upper mid in the NXT is the piezo pickup interacting with traditional speakers and tweeters? I don't have a cab with a tweeter to compare. It might also be the amp input impedance working for me, accept that I did not get this result feeding a Magellan 800 into another cab. The NSX is so convenient that getting it to sound so good with no effort justifies the wait for this combo.

What a superb design this little combo is. So the gig this weekend will the Magellan 350 10-2 combo, NSX EUB and a G&L jazz bass (this is not the sound that disappointed me - the G&L MJ-4 sounds excellent).

I am on the lookout for a double bass. (Boy, is that another challenge and a different world regarding cost and maintenance!) I cannot help feeling that the 350/10-2 is going to be superb for this application. In the meantime, it brings the NXT alive and makes for a very practical and portable combination.

Is this using just the combo, or the combo plus an additional 10-2? Just curious I thought I saw you mention you were thinking about getting a second 10-2...
 
Just the combo. I am a boring scientist/engineer and try to change one variable at a time. As the combo works then the stack will probably just blow me away. For gigs I don't have a cover yet for the extension cab (again, I am boringly fastidious about taking care of my gear) and as this Saturday's gig room is not too big, I will just take the combo.

If it is not loud enough (I would put money on it going way too loud) then I can plug into the PA.

Edit: I should say that the "disappointing" bass did not sound bad, just bland. I must admit I like of edge to my sound and the Nordstrands on the Lull give that. It is the bass that ended up as my overwhelming favourite for soul and rock gigs.
 
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I just purchased me another Genzler BA210-3 array from Jason and Bassstringsonline off of Reverb. He has a couple demos left that are at prices I've never seen due to moving. If your looking for the best 210 cabinet on the market you won't find a price to touch what he has on 2 left. The 210 cabinets are even better than the 112-3's if you can believe that.
 
I just purchased me another Genzler BA210-3 array from Jason and Bassstringsonline off of Reverb. He has a couple demos left that are at prices I've never seen due to moving. If your looking for the best 210 cabinet on the market you won't find a price to touch what he has on 2 left. The 210 cabinets are even better than the 112-3's if you can believe that.
I looked very hard at those before I decided to add to my current MG rig instead. The prices are insane!!
 
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I just purchased me another Genzler BA210-3 array from Jason and Bassstringsonline off of Reverb. He has a couple demos left that are at prices I've never seen due to moving. If your looking for the best 210 cabinet on the market you won't find a price to touch what he has on 2 left. The 210 cabinets are even better than the 112-3's if you can believe that.
Ummm, no I can't!:laugh:;)
 
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Well, it's here!! Pics as promised.


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