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Genzler Amplification Club

The SM9.2 is a timeless amp with endless options and very versatile sound. I use since many years and have done a lot of gigs with it.

Unfortunately the potentiometers start getting and scratchy now, which keeps me away from further use on stage. @agedhorse Is there any easy way to clean the potentiometers?
The ShuttleMax is a fairly difficult amp to work on, A lot of disassembly is required to do the job properly and I have seen a couple come through the shop recently with much worse (and costly) problems caused by improperly handling the repair.

In Europe, Surrey Amps can handle this, he is well qualified to do the work IME.
 
Thanks for working through it with me step by step. That's what I was attempting to do but never once thought about the power supply. It's plugged into a Furman surge protector behind the amp and I thought it was a One Spot as most of mine are. Not this time. Wish I'd have spotted it sooner and tried a swap of that as well.

Since I've never doubted the reliability or the design of any of what I've bought from you and Jeff it surprised the hell out of me which is why I thought I might be doing something wrong and consulted the manual again before reaching out for a lifeline. It's just incredible to have you and Jeff here so often to deal with questions and issues.
If you've got any more set up questions email me on Tuesday.
 
I have Bass Array 115 and 210 cabinets. I’m curious how the 112 sounds, as I’m thinking of a smaller, lighter setup for low-stage-volume situations. Lately I’ve been using the 210 by itself with my Magellan 800, as I prefer the 210 over the 115 when not used together. Can anyone describe how the 112 (or even the 110) sounds compared to the 210?
More bottom - a little less mid punch and not quite as loud. I like the 12’s as they are perfect between the 210 and 15 for punchiness and more bottom end. I play 5’s and 6 strings and appreciate a little more low end extension. .
 
I have Bass Array 115 and 210 cabinets. I’m curious how the 112 sounds, as I’m thinking of a smaller, lighter setup for low-stage-volume situations. Lately I’ve been using the 210 by itself with my Magellan 800, as I prefer the 210 over the 115 when not used together. Can anyone describe how the 112 (or even the 110) sounds compared to the 210?
I have BA 110-2 S2. I don't believe you'd find it sounds much different than your 210 just less of it. IMHO there's still plenty of bottom end but it will be punchier and lack the rounder fullness of a 112's bottom end.

My MG 350 combo is pretty ideal for the kind of smaller venue low stage volume gig you describe. I'll add a second 110 soon to handle a gig where I need all 300w and more volume but I have to say that for many 12" speakers are kind of a "Goldilocks" speaker. They were for me for quite awhile but now I need lighter and more compact gear so the BA 110-2 S2 work better for me. If not I would probably buy a 112 slant.
 
Because they are being discussed, you can't go wrong with the 19lb BA 110-2 S2. I think maybe my favorite cabs ever & I have 3 of them so can cover any gig.

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Finally had a chance to sit down with my 4 On The Floor today which thanks to Andy's (Agedhorse) help stepping through some trouble shooting with me on Saturday is working four square now that it's running off a proper power supply. What a kick this pedal is. It's very much like adding the overdrive channel of the MG 800 to my MG350 but with even more versatility.

I'm now able to hear the subtle transitions between each gear and get the full range of overdrive in each gear and it's dead silent. No added noise. I've always been far more of a plug in and play bassist since most of my heads have had onboard compression and the more recent ones had overdrive features as well but I no longer needed that much wattage so I bought the MG350 Combo. This pedal added it's missing element.

Just a great and useful design and top shelf build quality.

I have a feeling I'll be using 1st and 3rd gear more often than not. I've always been a fan of Ampeg bass amps and have played several over the years. I'm really pleased with the way the 4 On The Floor allows me to add some of that grit and harmonics to my PBass tone. It really perks it up playing fingerstyle and adds a nice edginess when playing with a pick. I enjoy having the added versatility of a great overdrive to use again.

And thanks again to both Andy and Jeff for being around here to help all of us with our questions and concerns. No one else I'm know of provides anywhere near this kind of personal service to their users.
 
Anyone had the chance to play the BA212 yet? It is seriously checking all the boxes for me, just a big price point compared to other 2x12's on the market.
You can’t really compare to other 212s on the market because it isn’t like any of the other 212s on the market…. i’d buy it in a heartbeat if I had the cash.
 
How do you like that instrument cable? And would you recommend it?
Yes, it works great and stays out of the way without getting tangled. It was a little more than I'd typically spend on a cable but I'd been having issues with several instrument cables and may have "overcorrected".

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You can’t really compare to other 212s on the market because it isn’t like any of the other 212s on the market…. i’d buy it in a heartbeat if I had the cash.
From the design side, we feel that you are correct, not really a direct comparision. The Bass Array design is a somewhat different animal (a multi-driver design) than compared to the standard 2x12. With the stacked 12's your feeling a lot of energy in front of the cab, but some can feel beamy and fall off across the performance horizontal plane, because of the woofers producing so much of the mids and upper mids. With the BA design and especailly with the BA2-212-3 the woofers offer a much broader stage filling depth, and then the response transitions to the Line Array which disperses those important mids, upper mids and top-end smoothly across the spectrum. In comparing this cab to other 2x12's in our line, this was the general feeling, which we feel can be applied to many of the traditional 2x12" cabs in comparision to the BA2-212-3. But there are places for all types of designs, we feel that within the 2x12 catagory, there is nothing that brings the clarity, and depth of tone as this model.
 
From the design side, we feel that you are correct, not really a direct comparision. The Bass Array design is a somewhat different animal (a multi-driver design) than compared to the standard 2x12. With the stacked 12's your feeling a lot of energy in front of the cab, but some can feel beamy and fall off across the performance horizontal plane, because of the woofers producing so much of the mids and upper mids. With the BA design and especailly with the BA2-212-3 the woofers offer a much broader stage filling depth, and then the response transitions to the Line Array which disperses those important mids, upper mids and top-end smoothly across the spectrum. In comparing this cab to other 2x12's in our line, this was the general feeling, which we feel can be applied to many of the traditional 2x12" cabs in comparision to the BA2-212-3. But there are places for all types of designs, we feel that within the 2x12 catagory, there is nothing that brings the clarity, and depth of tone as this model.
Time to start saving my pennies! This cab really sounds like a home-run to me, and should be a great single cab solution for 99.9% of gigs
 
As a fairly recent comer to the Bass Array (MG 350 combo + BA210 extension cab), the array still provides the thump I crave but seems to tame all of the boomy, muddy, mush rooms and venues my little band normally plays. What sounds good on stage would sound like moosh in the audience or even across the stage, but the array seems to tame that, letting what I hear on stage get all the way out to the back tables. It was worth all the pretty pennies I saved for two years.
 
As a fairly recent comer to the Bass Array (MG 350 combo + BA210 extension cab), the array still provides the thump I crave but seems to tame all of the boomy, muddy, mush rooms and venues my little band normally plays. What sounds good on stage would sound like moosh in the audience or even across the stage, but the array seems to tame that, letting what I hear on stage get all the way out to the back tables. It was worth all the pretty pennies I saved for two years.
Great to hear this. It is a true testimonial echoed many times from players just like yourself. Thank you for using our gear.
 
As a fairly recent comer to the Bass Array (MG 350 combo + BA210 extension cab), the array still provides the thump I crave but seems to tame all of the boomy, muddy, mush rooms and venues my little band normally plays. What sounds good on stage would sound like moosh in the audience or even across the stage, but the array seems to tame that, letting what I hear on stage get all the way out to the back tables. It was worth all the pretty pennies I saved for two years.
I'm in much the same boat. The way I play much of the time and how I tend to EQ should benefit more from the punch of 10s and as you say the BA 110-2 S2 does not lack low end. It just presents it differently. I vacillated over whether to add a BA112 cab or another BA110 cab to my combo and the more I've played it the more convinced I've become to add a second BA 110. I'll do that within the next month or two.
 
I know I’m preaching to the choir here about how good our Genzler gear is but…..last week we played on our local Fox News station for our ‘Good Day Austin’ morning show. Everything had to be done pretty quickly and quietly for the setup process. During commercials and other canned features we could make a little noise and make sure everything was working. We were able to do enough of a sound check at one point to get some levels set and some EQing done etc. Regarding the bass side of things the engineer was happy to see a DI….once again with the limited time it was a ‘plug in and move on’ scenario for him so all good. When he mixed the bass it took all of about 30 seconds. He was pleasantly surprised and commented on how the sound was nice and punchy and the signal was dead quiet. :cool: We had to move on and had a few minutes to chat with him before going on. These guys see every type of band come through….from the most amateur to those with old gear that is barely hanging on all the way up to the most professional big time touring bands and everything in between. Sometimes everything is easy and sometimes it takes up to the last seconds to make things work. At the end of the show we told him we hoped we had made it easy on him and he was gracious and complimentary on everything. Was a fun time for sure and glad we could do it even if I had to leave the house at super early and fight downtown traffic…..:smug:


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I know I’m preaching to the choir here about how good our Genzler gear is but…..last week we played on our local Fox News station for our ‘Good Day Austin’ morning show. Everything had to be done pretty quickly and quietly for the setup process. During commercials and other canned features we could make a little noise and make sure everything was working. We were able to do enough of a sound check at one point to get some levels set and some EQing done etc. Regarding the bass side of things the engineer was happy to see a DI….once again with the limited time it was a ‘plug in and move on’ scenario for him so all good. When he mixed the bass it took all of about 30 seconds. He was pleasantly surprised and commented on how the sound was nice and punchy and the signal was dead quiet. :cool: We had to move on and had a few minutes to chat with him before going on. These guys see every type of band come through….from the most amateur to those with old gear that is barely hanging on all the way up to the most professional big time touring bands and everything in between. Sometimes everything is easy and sometimes it takes up to the last seconds to make things work. At the end of the show we told him we hoped we had made it easy on him and he was gracious and complimentary on everything. Was a fun time for sure and glad we could do it even if I had to leave the house at super early and fight downtown traffic…..:smug:


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JJ, I’ve done a few of these morning TV events, so what you went through with setup and soundcheck in the studio is familiar. I have always been presented with a small monitor to use, like a QSC 10 or 12. I’m surprised that you were able to bring your 410 to the show. Did you actually run through that live as a monitor?